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it's more that you'd come across bandwidth loss when using Ethernet on the new Apple TV because the wifi supports up to 866mbps (2x2 config)
I have had zero issues streaming on wifi with the new one compared to HAVING to use Ethernet for the old one which had very un-reliable wifi

I don't know anyone that actually gets those speeds over wifi though. Unless they are right next to the modem. I have the on hub and 500 Mbps is the fastest wifi speeds I have seen.
 
I don't know anyone that actually gets those speeds over wifi though. Unless they are right next to the modem. I have the on hub and 500 Mbps is the fastest wifi speeds I have seen.
if you're in the same room you should get the top speed, I use mine behind a room with a double brick wall and airport utility says about 550mbps
 
In any situation that doesn't involve bulk file transfers, I'd much rather be wired at a guaranteed 100mbps than on WiFi at "up to" 500mbps. (450mbps in my case, since I have an older Airport)

Wired has far lower latency.
Wired isn't subject to interference.
Using a wired connection frees up available WiFi bandwidth for other devices in your home to use.

I doubt any video source we are watching on our Apple TVs exceeds even 20mbps, which is 1/5th of what's available on a 100mbps link. There is absolutely no reason to have a gigabit port on the Apple TV at this point in the product's lifecycle.

Now, that said... gigabit PHYs are a dime a dozen these days, so I'm actually perplexed as to why Apple didn't use one. I know gigabit is more power hungry than 100mbps; maybe they were trying to stay within a tight power budget. Maybe they went the Raspberry PI way and the ethernet interface is connected to the SOC using USB, and they decided to use a 100Mbps interface because it was more available or reliable. Either way, it wasn't a BAD decision at this point.
 
In any situation that doesn't involve bulk file transfers, I'd much rather be wired at a guaranteed 100mbps than on WiFi at "up to" 500mbps. (450mbps in my case, since I have an older Airport)

Wired has far lower latency.
Wired isn't subject to interference.
Using a wired connection frees up available WiFi bandwidth for other devices in your home to use.

I doubt any video source we are watching on our Apple TVs exceeds even 20mbps, which is 1/5th of what's available on a 100mbps link. There is absolutely no reason to have a gigabit port on the Apple TV at this point in the product's lifecycle.

Now, that said... gigabit PHYs are a dime a dozen these days, so I'm actually perplexed as to why Apple didn't use one. I know gigabit is more power hungry than 100mbps; maybe they were trying to stay within a tight power budget. Maybe they went the Raspberry PI way and the ethernet interface is connected to the SOC using USB, and they decided to use a 100Mbps interface because it was more available or reliable. Either way, it wasn't a BAD decision at this point.

I wouldn't say 'far lower latency' anymore, WiFi is getting pretty good.
Most of the time you won't have interference especially with 5GHz on AC, and rarely you'll run out of WiFi bandwidth with the routers we have these days in the home.
And the better with more bandwidth means the ATV can download files faster (obviously) with videos and apps, and local streaming with more bandwidth means it'll take a lot less time. 866vs100max

I was really disappointed they didn't add a gigabit port though as everything with a physical port should use the fastest standard available these days... The port is connected via USB see the photo I've included from iFixit
 

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Yeah, and if you have any older devices on your network, guess what happens to the WiFi speed? Just one 802.11g device throttles the entire network down to "g" speeds. Whereas wired always works the same. Give me the consistency and save the WiFi bandwidth for portable devices rather than fixed-location ones.
 
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Yeah, and if you have any older devices on your network, guess what happens to the WiFi speed? Just one 802.11g device throttles the entire network down to "g" speeds. Whereas wired always works the same. Give me the consistency and save the WiFi bandwidth for portable devices rather than fixed-location ones.
Are you serious? this has not and never has been the case. Even with the release of B/G the newer devices could use G and older would use B. Same with N and AC, we have first generation N devices and a few AC devices now and they all work at the max speed possible
 
The missing optical out is a big disappointment. There are lots of audio products that don't include HDMI and few TV's output audio. If you're into speciality or vintage audio this will pose a problem. Even just a standard audio jack would be adequate for most people.

It's also missing Siri. I know it's supposedly built around Siri, but the functionality is really limited. I can do a lot more on my iPhone, it makes little sense that it's missing so much. I can't even tell Siri to play music--which works great on the iPhone.
 
i don't get it why you can't surf the web on apple tv? why you dont' have safari for apple tv?
they want to change the Tv experience but one iconic feature of all smart tv is the browser, but it is an ugly experience and i hoped on apple tv to be one that is better
any one have an idea?
 
I checked it out last week:
  • laggy
  • gets hot
  • double the size of the old ATV
  • siri didn't work
  • apps on the appstore are either basic games or other nonsense
ATV pretty much misses everything that would make it worth my while. (iworks, keyboard, apps, safari, vpn,...)
 
double the height, not the size
siri should be working
maybe you tested a bad unit
 
double the height, not the size
double the height = double the volume = double the size

I tested it in the apple store together with an apple guy.
Siri didn't work for him either.
He had no explanation ...

The ATV4 is good for people who want to play those phone games on it I guess. Everyone else is better of with the old ATV.
 
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