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I work in computer repair and I love ios. I want simple integrated just works seamlessly and it does.

Love the speed of the phone and the simple layout and the fact that it doesn't crash constantly and I don't need to give every app access to my contacts
 
Try to make yourself feel as good as what you want, but they are not as safe as IOS or BES period. Government companies test phones very hard and the Androids due to their openness of the O/S are not secure enough. Reason why the White House, FBI, and most banks do not allow Androids on their networks yet. And this is from experience.

Oh and an old article back in 2012 about the secure android phones. Guess what, they aren't using them. They just got IOS devices.



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http://www.tuaw.com/2013/08/26/u-s-government-finds-0-7-of-all-mobile-malware-affects-ios-wh/

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http://www.macworld.co.uk/news/iosapps/ios-vs-android-which-is-more-secure-3499540/

iOS vs. Android: Which is more secure?

You know, its the multitude of posts such as these in this very thread that brings me to question the need to cherry pick portions of an article to suit their stance on a topic. It is as if these threads/posts are part of a marketing dept that attempt to create spin to gain consumer interest.

KillaMac, you post a graph from 2 years ago even after it has been reiterated time and again that the malware stems from countries where the Play Store do not exist coupled with a level of ignorance and a multitude of steps to open the possibility for it to happen. In this very thread, there are links showing that less than .1% of Malware comes from the Play Store.

https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/143779

http://www.citeworld.com/article/2142560/mobile-byod/google-extends-malware-scanning-to-devices.html

Take a look at where the Play Store is available and where it is not, and answer this one question for me. What country has the largest share of active mobile subscribers? What country has seen the largest YoY growth in smartphone subscribers? And one last question, is the Play Store available there?

After you answer these questions, can we please sticky it, and put this argument to rest so people make more informed posts?

Thanks!

As far as enterprise security, Samsung is clearly going through great lengths to capture some of that marketshare. It is clear to everyone that android is not as streamlined as iOS, which forces a level of difficulty in its implementation in comparison.

For the argument, because I know it will come, I understand Samsung is not Android in its entirety, but it is the most popular and dominates overall marketshare. For that, I used it for comparison.
 
lol you never did jailbreak your iphone have you?

nor did you ever own an android phone.


its alright we we all expect bias in this site.. sometimes it just too obvious though :D

Jailbroken iPhone 4S and iPad 2 + Galaxy S4 and Galaxy Note 10.1 is that enough? (I do not own iPhone and iPad now though but I will get iPhone 6 and iPad Air with Touch ID hen they get released)
 
I guess you just need to try it and see. I've had plenty of android phones but I always end up back on iphone. Not sure why but it happens. Usually there's always some small issue that just drives me crazy on android. Touch wiz, samsung slow updates, unreliable camera etc.
 
To me, it's more about what is so special about iCloud, not necessarily the iPhone itself.

From a business perspective being able to sync from my Mac to my iPad, to my iPhone and back and forth which ever way with appointments, calendars, iTunes Match etc is what keeps me in the Apple camp. Everything just seamlessly works without me having to think about it or initiate a sequence manually.

I've tried loads of android phones and I've always been suitably impressed, but with having to use work arounds for Google Sync etc it just becomes more effort than that extra real estate is worth (for me anyhow).

If you love widgets, using different skins and toying with the OS than iOS isn't for you at all, but if you want simplicity in a gorgeous shell with huge support and fantastic customer service then iOS is second to none :)
 
iPhone has the best microphone and best outgoing voice quality at the moment. It's the main reason I jumped from android, which hasn't had a phone with excellent outgoing voice quality since the original Moto Defy, and the first gen Android RAZR.
 
What is Special in the Apple iPhone?

Android in my opinion has the better and more useful OS, but at the end the device hardware lets it down. I love the notifications in Android, the scope of control a user has (eg. In IFTTT app) and the google integration (eg. A superior Gmail and Google Now experience). But there is always something about the hardware that makes me yearn for something better. With the iPhone I just use my phone without the worry of something not working or having to tweak it all day to get something right.

Last week I purchased a Sony Xperia Z1 Compact after reading all the glowing reviews, but after experiencing it for a few days I am going back to my 5s. Why? Because of the overrated camera, the horrible front camera in low light, occasional lag, and the poor calibration of the screen (dark contrast or gamma). No matter what the specs are, I always have an issue with any Android phone.

After my first year with iPhone (5 and 5s) my observation is that iPhone seems to get the big and little things right, consistently.
 
iPhone gets a lot of little details right. For example, the Lightning cable and lightning port are incredibly easy to use due to the reversibility of the plug. The buttons and switches have just the right amount of feedback.
 
iPhone has the best microphone and best outgoing voice quality at the moment. It's the main reason I jumped from android, which hasn't had a phone with excellent outgoing voice quality since the original Moto Defy, and the first gen Android RAZR.

According to reviews, this is not true.
 
iPhone gets a lot of little details right. For example, the Lightning cable and lightning port are incredibly easy to use due to the reversibility of the plug. The buttons and switches have just the right amount of feedback.

Not matter how great lightning port is the fact that it is proprietary makes it very difficult not easy. It is expensive and you can't easily find one lying around when you needed one.
 
It is all about the software support for me. iOS sees 3-4 years on iPhone compared to 18 months on Android. Updates come as fast as you can download it, Android takes 6-12 months. App Store has a better selection and iOS versions seemed more polished and feature rich. Apple gets new apps before It hits the Play Store. Oh, I hate capacitive buttons so I will never give up my single home button. Security advantage is in the back of my mind.
 
Not matter how great lightning port is the fact that it is proprietary makes it very difficult not easy. It is expensive and you can't easily find one lying around when you needed one.
While true in general it is still better even of that comes at a higher price. As for how common it is, these days, I run into more lightning and 30 pin connector cables than microUSB, so it can cerrainly vary for different people.
 
Not matter how great lightning port is the fact that it is proprietary makes it very difficult not easy. It is expensive and you can't easily find one lying around when you needed one.

I have a mophie case and I really like it. Works with all of my micro-usb cables as well as my old blackberry charger. Didn't have to buy a new car charger as my existing car charger is micro-usb.
 
I'm an iPhone user who recently switched over to Android (I still have my iPhone 4 - yes iPhone 4 - but my Galaxy is my main phone; the 4 no longer has a SIM so it's essentially an iPod Touch now).

Some of the features of the iPhone (I'm not sure these make it "special" but certainly useful):

  • easy to use, intuitive OS. The majority of options are in the Settings area (save for very app specific options), making it pretty easy to find and make setting changes
  • If you are deeply entrenched in the Apple ecosystem, it's very convenient (particularly if you use iCloud). Everything syncs between devices, all your iTunes music/movies/etc. are just there)
  • if the majority of your friends/family also use Apple devices, you can use iMessage
  • Apple's support is excellent. I loved being able to take my phone into any local Apple store if I had any issues. All problems were either resolved on the spot or I was given a replacement device.
  • If an app is created for something, you can pretty much guarantee it will be available for the iPhone
  • you use other Apple devices and DO want to use iCloud to sync everything
  • Apple's design is usually very nice and aesthetically pleasing

At the same time, I personally find Android's OS pretty intuitive and easy to use as well; I didn't experience a learning curve moving from one to the other and it's amazing how quickly you get used to something. I went from Blackberry --> iPhone --> Android and each time was unsure whether I'd be able to get used to certain things, and each time within a few days I wondered what I was worrying about.

I was never deeply entrenched in Apple's ecosystem. I had apps from Apple, so I did have to redownload those when I went to Android. I do have multiple Apple devices (iPad and MBP) but I didn't use iCloud. I synced email/calendar/contacts via MS Exchange.

I think you'll enjoy iPhone if:

  • you don't mind repurchasing some apps
  • you like the ability to bring your phone into any local store if you need to
  • you have a lot of friends who use iPhones (I have friends who do, though, and having an Android isn't making anything harder... I just text them instead of iMessage. Most plans include regular text these days)
  • you don't do a lot of phone customization (if you're used to widgets, launchers, lockscreen replacements, etc. you may be frustrated)

It's really about what works best for you.
 
Apple's iphone is "special" because of its small size and simplicity. They purposely take out alot of features and keep the operation one-handed (until September when version 6 comes out).

If you're the kind of person who likes to tinker and doesn't respond well to authority, apple doesn't want your business. They build for the common person who has surface understanding of tech. They do not want the power user as a customer. They are not trying to be all things to all people. They are telling you that the iPhone is everything you need and nothing that you do not. Samsung is at the other end of the spectrum. They'll build a special phone for just your office if you want them to.

But objectively (and I was surprised by this):

--build quality and quality control is really not any more special than the competition now (one could argue that everyone has finally copied and caught up to apple)
--features lag behind android by a considerable margin
--battery life is considerably lower than the best android phones
--price is well, as high as it has ever been
--same stability as android
--there is genuine innovation occurring outside of apple, and since every new invention has ties to the things previous, apple does not have a monopoly on innovation. you'll be seeing them copy some ideas from the competition--multitasking, allowing apps to communicate with each other, google-now like functionality, etc.

I'm frankly not sure that the iphone is special anymore.
 
Apple's iphone is "special" because of its small size and simplicity. They purposely take out alot of features and keep the operation one-handed (until September when version 6 comes out).

If you're the kind of person who likes to tinker and doesn't respond well to authority, apple doesn't want your business. They build for the common person who has surface understanding of tech. They do not want the power user as a customer. They are not trying to be all things to all people. They are telling you that the iPhone is everything you need and nothing that you do not. Samsung is at the other end of the spectrum. They'll build a special phone for just your office if you want them to.

But objectively (and I was surprised by this):

--build quality and quality control is really not any more special than the competition now (one could argue that everyone has finally copied and caught up to apple)
--features lag behind android by a considerable margin
--battery life is considerably lower than the best android phones
--price is well, as high as it has ever been
--same stability as android

I'm frankly not sure that the iphone is special anymore.

Well I disagree, after playing with the latest android phones, the 5s build quality is tops. (Objectively speaking if course). Features lag behind android except for Touch ID, 64 bit, the camera and a few others. Battery life is less because the phone is smaller, thankfully. And finally same stability, maybe, but an iPhone 4 is getting updated a few years past it's prime.

Carry on.
 
Not matter how great lightning port is the fact that it is proprietary makes it very difficult not easy. It is expensive and you can't easily find one lying around when you needed one.


It depends on where you are in the world. I'm in the United States, where iPhones are everywhere and lightning cables are easy to find. In countries where iPhones are not common I can see the cable compatibility being an issue.
 
It depends on where you are in the world. I'm in the United States, where iPhones are everywhere and lightning cables are easy to find. In countries where iPhones are not common I can see the cable compatibility being an issue.

I dont really see any good outcome using proprietary port except for Apple to make more money. Almost all portable devices nowadays use micro-USB.
 
I dont really see any good outcome using proprietary port except for Apple to make more money. Almost all portable devices nowadays use micro-USB.


Yeah, but you have to love that dual sided connector. I never had an easier time plugging my phone in the dark.
 
I dont really see any good outcome using proprietary port except for Apple to make more money. Almost all portable devices nowadays use micro-USB.
One isn't necessarily connected to the other. Just because something is more widespread doesn't mean it's better or vice versa.
 
I dont really see any good outcome using proprietary port except for Apple to make more money. Almost all portable devices nowadays use micro-USB.

The good outcome is that we get a better connector that isn't limited by the need to be compatible with everything else (which is a rather fringe benefit to say the least). It's really rather irrelevent that I can't use the USB lead that charges my Moto G to charge my iPhone, but it's definitely very relevent that the iPhone has a connector that can be inserted either way around and the added convenience and ease of use this affords. Trading limited use compatiblity for a better connector is a trade worth making if you ask me.
 
Personally, there's a few reasons where I prefer apple to android, all things considered.

1. MAIL -- There are lots of third party android apps you can download to accommodate your work mail (and signature) but frankly, I found none as easy or as useful as the default mail app on IOS. It took my signature perfectly, and it's impossible to decipher between when I send from my desktop and when I send from my phone.

2. BATTERY CHARGING -- My iPhone 5 charges absurdly fast; the battery life isn't anything remarkable, but it seems like it takes less than hour to go from 40% to 100%.

3. GOOGLE integration -- One of the reasons I would change to Android is because of the google products I use; I use hangouts [basically renders imessage useless], gmail, drive, plus and the play store [for use with my chromecast] all the time. With the exception of "play movies" which requires you to buy or rent through the browser and "play music" which seems to not be able to play a CD without shuffling, the experience is 100% perfect on IOS. Google probably won't fix the "movies" anytime soon because they don't want to cut a check to apple for sales, but they should fix the "music" and even if they don't, I can delete the app and use spotify, which I'm using now.

4. CAMERA -- The camera is great on the iPhone 5/5s.

The big hurdle for me is really email and size. I really don't want a phone bigger than 4.7 inches [4-4.5 would really be fine to me] and in that size with my carriers, the only premium phone I really see is the Moto X, which I like a lot; if the Moto X camera was as good as the iPhone's, I'd buy it for my next machine, but alas, it's not. I think things like widgets and small customizations are pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things the way I use my phone, but I'll tell you, it'd be nice not to have to watch ads on youtube.
 
http://www.computerweekly.com/news/...are-threats-jump-26-per-cent-in-third-quarter

The number of mobile malware threat families rose to 259 in the third quarter of the year, a 26% increase on the previous quarter, according to F-Secure’s latest Mobile Threat Report.

The report is based on data from the official Android Play Store and Apple App Store, third-party app markets and anonymised data from F-Secure mobile security customers.

Malware targeting Google’s Android operating system makes up 97% of threats, with those targeting the Symbian operating system making up the remainder.

Malware authors continue to concentrate on the Android platform, the report said, as Android holds 79.3% of the total market share in mobile phones and tablet devices.

No malware has been recorded in 2013 on the BlackBerry, iOS or Windows Phone platforms.

In another step in the march towards Android malware commoditisation, a new toolkit called Androrat APK binder appeared in July.

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http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/27/4...droid-fragmentation-leads-to-malware-exposure

US government says Android is a malware magnet thanks to OS fragmentation
 
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