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Thank you! That's EXACTLY what I think the features will be.

But if Apple releases a tablet which focus on e-reader, it's totally sick - there is no market for it. It is clear as hell that they will make a tablet that focuses on several other areas.

E-books? No one cares about that.

It is simply a better and bigger Iphone. And it is FACT.

Realize it.
 
There are many good ideas here for potential "wow" content for the Tablet. But again, think it through a little more. Who's paying for all those comic subscriptions? Sure, such a device (or a laptop or desktop) could easily hold all of someone's favorite comics, but that someone will need to pay for those comic book subscriptions on top of the price they pay for this new device to carry them. I'm under the impression that the large market for comics & manga tends to be a cash-strapped market. Or are you assuming that since they can be delivered without being printed on paper, pricing- and thus profits- will be heavily cut? (and if so, why will those publishers want to cut their own profit throats?)

Sure Sports Illustrated super multi-media edition would be incredible. But you do understand that if the publisher has to put a lot more into the job of publishing their publication, they'll want to charge a lot more for the subscription. Or are we imagining the price of a subscription to this new super Sports Illustrated will stay about the same (or be lower since no paper is necessary), yet they'll spend all that time & trouble to give us all that added multimedia content?

The last thing the newspaper industry needs is reasons to charge less- thus make less revenue- from sales of their papers. The Ad model can't carry such businesses alone, which contributes to why so many of them are struggling- if not downright failing- now. The Tablet will offer them another distribution channel- and some minor cost savings over a printed edition (if they don't have to add a lot of new multimedia content to jazz it up), but if it gets them 2X their subscriber base but no new subscriber revenues, is it a winner for them? What that industry needs is more people valuing their content enough to want to pay them more for it. The Ad model doesn't carry their cost load.

I don't see the availability of a Tablet changing these kinds of realities very much. Comic/Manga/SI/Newspapers ALL can distribute their publications as you describe them NOW, via devices that are already in people's hands. Is- say- a laptop NOT going to be able to deliver much of the same publisher consumption experience as this Tablet? Is the missing link for all this built-up demand for print media content a need to touch a flat surface to turn a page (instead of hitting an arrow key or similar)? Why does the Tablet revolutionize the print industry over the tools we already have? Thinness? No keyboard? Need to Touch to turn a page? Cause Jobs says it's cool?

But the thing is, even if publishers end up having to charge consumers more for the "upgraded" print media experience (or whatever you wanna call it) on a tablet, I think people are going to pay for it. The general public will spend the money if it has enough of the "cool" factor that most people in here are expecting.

Also, it's not just pressing a flat surface to turn a page that's significant with this tablet. Sure, you can just take your laptop around and read the newspapers and magazine articles that you want to. And people will still do that when this comes out. But you have to think outside the box here. Having the tablet experience and a print industry that follows the lead of this tablet means much more. Think of the AppStore on the iPhone. Thousand and thousands of apps you can search for at your fingertips. There were several games I've never heard of before (Enigmo, Fantastic Contraption) that had already been out a long while and I only ended up hearing about them and buying them thanks to the AppStore. Now put that into context with a tablet. You can find books, magazines, newspapers or whatever it may be right at your fingertips. You like something you see, you click, and now you're subscribed. It's simple.

Again, like you said, you can already do this with laptops and computers in general. But if Apple, like they did with iTunes and the AppStore, can get the print industry to jump on board with this tablet thing, the experience and simplicity will much more than just being able to read something on a thin, electronic device.

Convenience, user experience, AND the "cool" factor, if done right, will make this tablet thing very successful.
 
It will be more than just a kindle. It will be a kindle with the same features as an iPhone. (Video, internet browsing, e-mail, music player, maybe 3G, apps ect.) and it is pointing to companies actually being able to sell magazine, comic or newspaper subscriptions through the device. So it wont be anywhere near a "real computer", but it will still be much more than just another kindle.

I think this will work well with the market after a year and a half for everyone to make digital copies of things (newspapers magazines), apps, and for the price of it to go down 20%-30% so more people can afford it, kind of like what happened with the iPod Touch when it came out ($300 down to $230).

Just my 2¢
 
It will be more than just a kindle. It will be a kindle with the same features as an iPhone. (Video, internet browsing, e-mail, music player, maybe 3G, apps ect.) and it is pointing to companies actually being able to sell magazine, comic or newspaper subscriptions through the device. So it wont be anywhere near a "real computer", but it will still be much more than just another kindle.

I think this will work well with the market after a year and a half for everyone to make digital copies of things (newspapers magazines), apps, and for the price of it to go down 20%-30% so more people can afford it, kind of like what happened with the iPod Touch when it came out ($300 down to $230).

Just my 2¢

whY would anyone pay for magazine or newspaper subscriptions when they can read the same magazines and newspapers on the web for free?
 
whY would anyone pay for magazine or newspaper subscriptions when they can read the same magazines and newspapers on the web for free?

Because they won't be able to read on the web for free when a model to monetize their content becomes available. Most recently, newsday.com is now behind a pay wall for most content. It's like the 10th largest newspaper in the country. More will follow.
 
whY would anyone pay for magazine or newspaper subscriptions when they can read the same magazines and newspapers on the web for free?
The fact is that you can't read the same content online for free. You can read some of the same content, but only about half of what is published in the dead tree edition.
 
whY would anyone pay for magazine or newspaper subscriptions when they can read the same magazines and newspapers on the web for free?

My local papers put about oh, 1/10th of their content online. It's not very helpful to find out any NEWS, and it's often only the "human interest" types of stories.

I'm not sure how much i'd pay for "full" local news - but anything would be an improvement over what they do.

Oh, and I TRIED to subscribe to the paper. They allege they can't find my house - the neighbor told me she tried for 7 YEARS to get it and finally quit trying. Same here....
 
iCon?

The tablet will allow better UI for watching movies, playing games, running Apps and be more portable and fun than a laptop. It will connect all of these areas of activity.

I don't really like iSlate, but think the name iCon (short for iConnect) would be a great namesake for this new product. After all, it's usually only once in a lifetime that a true iCon is born.
 
I agree with you for up-to-the-minute news, but you are wrong where it concerns quality and in-depth articles. I have yet to find immersive and detailed pieces as I read monthly in Esquire. Pieces like that cost a lot of money and are financed by the advertising in those magazines. You might argue that most news sites are also financed by advertising, but then tell me, why don't we see such material on the web? GIve me one example of a free site that offers the same depth and broadness of articles as one of the large periodicals does?

Like you pointed out later, a lot of websites do post up in-depth feature pieces. Ars Technica comes to mind. Why is it only the tech community as realised this ? Why is it most news websites with good fast and in-depth content are mostly tech sites ?

Because tech sites are tech savvy. A new format isn't needed, esquire could put up the same in-depth features in a pay for section on their site.

They could also offer offline browsing. Seriously, there's nothing magic about the web. You could take snapshots and pack them up for download as static content that can be read offline. Microsoft already has a good format for that with mht that they use for help files. It's basically just images/html/css/javascript all packed together as a 1 file archive. Heck, a zip file with the whole tree of the site could be made, and a simple reader that just unpacks it behind the scenes and you've got your "periodical" and your up to date web content, all in 1 format. Much easier to manage.

No DRM, no new proprietary format that locks your content to 1 platform. All open web, open standards, accessible content, all you need is to bring your own browser. And you can make money off of it if you bother.

That fact that most publishers don't do this (maybe in the states, Quebecor Media has pretty much adopted the Web for all its publications, even it's TV channel broadcasts everything on the web) is probably a case of ignorance more than that it can't be done (because it can). Some dinosaurs in the industry just don't want to change.
 
whY would anyone pay for magazine or newspaper subscriptions when they can read the same magazines and newspapers on the web for free?

For the same reason that people buy apps that are better than their free versions... More things that you can do, probably put in less ads. or they will just make even more of their content cost money instead of it being free.
 
Because they won't be able to read on the web for free when a model to monetize their content becomes available. Most recently, newsday.com is now behind a pay wall for most content. It's like the 10th largest newspaper in the country. More will follow.

The pay walls will crumble for everything but the most specialized publications, because as long a there is free competition, readers will go there. If newsday charges, people will read the daily news for free.
 
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magicmode said:
The tablet will allow better UI for watching movies, playing games, running Apps and be more portable and fun than a laptop. It will connect all of these areas of activity.

I don't really like iSlate, but think the name iCon (short for iConnect) would be a great namesake for this new product. After all, it's usually only once in a lifetime that a true iCon is born.

iCon... Or is that a con as in a rip off!!?!


We know steve Jobs has shelves the tablet numerous times. Therefor if he's now ready to release something then he must have something he and the other board members feel will be a win. A big iphone will not be it. It's going to be
much more. I'm sure it will be used for Reading news and books but again that bit going to be it big draw. There is something else.
 
it's obvious one of the uses for the tablet will be as an e-book reader. The form factor alone lends itself to that task. Will it be the primary focus? No; just one of many -- music, movies, TV subscriptions on-the-go, and, of course, games. Perhaps all in the cloud and accessible anywhere (recall that the theme for the rollout is "mobility").

It's going to be your personal media center.
 
The problem with websites is they are a dime a dozen, how can you tell the good from the bad? What's worth paying for and what is rubbish?

Same can be said for Movies, Music, Magazines, Books, News outlets heck, restaurants, clothes, sporting goods, food etc...

Life is a choice. Most manufacturers/publishers/vendors/retailers offers way to preview what you are buying before you buy it. There's advertising, in-store displays, reviews, etc... etc..

I don't see how that as to be different with Websites. A free section gives you a preview of the content in the pay section. Sometimes it's an accurate representation, sometimes it's over-marketed and you find out you payed for something shoddy.

I really don't see how this is any kind of argument for an iTunes Magazine format. It's going to be the same thing. How will you know which ones are worth paying for ? It's going to end up the same on that front.

I still see no worthwhile argument to return to the old periodical, paper based print only in a PDF format. It makes no sense. The Web is the new print media, embrace it, it's already here.
 
Here's betting we won't. First of all, Amazon has it's own thing. It can put the kindle app on there for free and not share any money with Apple. Further, why would Apple need a middleman? It can deal directly with the book publishers.

If that's the case, then why does Apple pay Amazon for their audiobook downloads? Audible is the service providers for Apple's audiobooks. Audible is owned by Amazon.

I could see them extending the deal if they didn't want to get into the hassle of dealing with publishers. A built-in Kindle app on the home screen?
 
The pay walls will crumble for everything but the most specialized publications, because as long a there is free competition, readers will go there. If newsday charges, people will read the daily news for free.

Again for up to the minute news and all Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Heidi Montag and whatever news that is definitely true.

For real quality reporting there is no free alternative (except tech sites as KnightWRX pointed out) as the production and breadth of the articles requires too much money to finance through clicks on banners.. This will not work.

A magazine works by upfront payment of all material in the issue by the customer. Whether you look at an ad in a magazine doesn't matter. Moving this model to the digital space makes sense and is viable.
 
But the thing is, even if publishers end up having to charge consumers more for the "upgraded" print media experience (or whatever you wanna call it) on a tablet, I think people are going to pay for it. The general public will spend the money if it has enough of the "cool" factor that most people in here are expecting.

That's what I am not reading a lot of within this and other threads... the perception that people are ready to pay up pretty well for this Tablet AND pay up for the subscriptions to print media. Instead, I read a lot of people imagining huge cuts in the costs of print subscriptions. Relative to this, I wonder if the "cool" factor will be enough to sell this thing to the masses- especially if all that print media is ALSO available to devices they already own (hooked to iTunes).

Having the tablet experience and a print industry that follows the lead of this tablet means much more. Think of the AppStore on the iPhone. Thousand and thousands of apps you can search for at your fingertips. There were several games I've never heard of before (Enigmo, Fantastic Contraption) that had already been out a long while and I only ended up hearing about them and buying them thanks to the AppStore. Now put that into context with a tablet.

But there's the key difference. My assumption is that this print media IS going to be available to non-Tablet devices like laptops, much like DVD and TV show media now. App stores apps are exclusive to iPhones & iPod Touch. If this print media avalanche of coming content is also exclusive to this Tablet, then I can see a more obvious reasons for people wanting content as served that way to buy a Tablet. But then, if I'm a struggling print media company, aren't I going to want my e-publication sold as broadly as possible (not just on the Tablet, but also on all the other iTunes connected devices.... just like I see DVDs & TV shows being sold)?

If you believe all this new content will be Tablet-exclusive, then there's a definite tangible driver for Tablet sales. I'm not believing that content would be Tablet-only, which is why I have a hard time imagining wanting to own a Tablet for people- like me- that might already have a few other iTunes-connected devices.

But once again, I'd love to be pleasantly surprised.

You can find books, magazines, newspapers or whatever it may be right at your fingertips. You like something you see, you click, and now you're subscribed. It's simple.

Very cool if all this content at my fingertips is only at them when using a Tablet. But if it is also available to my laptop, etc, it will be just about as simple to get it that way, save the $799 (price I'm guessing), etc.

But if Apple, like they did with iTunes and the AppStore, can get the print industry to jump on board with this tablet thing, the experience and simplicity will much more than just being able to read something on a thin, electronic device. Convenience, user experience, AND the "cool" factor, if done right, will make this tablet thing very successful.

I think it will be very easy to get ANY industry to want to sell their stuff through iTunes. It is a cheap, "new" channel to the masses. If Apple would let companies sell panty-hose or yo-yos via iTunes, such stuff would quickly appear there. I have no doubt that a struggling print industry will love to try to sell their publications through a new section on iTunes. I'd even say, that's a given. My hangup continues to be why I might want to consume these paid subscription publications via a Tablet instead of through other iTunes-connected devices I already own.

The best way to overcome that issue is to hook this print e-media to the Tablet like Apps to the iPhone/Touch... meaning EXCLUSIVELY available via the Tablet. Then, you got a compelling, very tangible reason for those hungry for this hardware/software gadget. How many see it going that way?
 
Again for up to the minute news and all Lindsay Lohan, Paris Hilton, Heidi Montag and whatever news that is definitely true.

For real quality reporting there is no free alternative (except tech sites as KnightWRX pointed out) as the production and breadth of the articles requires too much money to finance through clicks on banners.. This will not work.

A magazine works by upfront payment of all material in the issue by the customer. Whether you look at an ad in a magazine doesn't matter. Moving this model to the digital space makes sense and is viable.

And yet magazines are going out of business due to the web, too. Those that aren't out of business yet are trying everything they can to stay in business, including redesigns (Newsweek), and relying on their websites for added income.

Clearly people aren't willing to pay for this supposed "quality reporting."
 
We know steve Jobs has shelved the tablet numerous times. Therefore if he's now ready to release something then he must have something he and the other board members feel will be a win. (...)

Frankly speaking, there's also the factor that he was only a week or two away from being dead earlier this year.

I was in his position a few years ago. It makes you focus on what's most important to you, and what needs to be done quickly.

Perhaps he just doesn't want to wait any longer.
 
The ultimate role of the Apple Tablet -- or any other product for that matter -- is to increase shareholder value.

:D

Or, it's to show everyone how it *should* have been done in the first place. That, eventually, leads to yor increase in shareholder value as well. ;)
 
And yet magazines are going out of business due to the web, too. Those that aren't out of business yet are trying everything they can to stay in business, including redesigns (Newsweek), and relying on their websites for added income.

Clearly people aren't willing to pay for this supposed "quality reporting."

Its because they are relying on the advertising, which doesn't supposedly matter. Perhaps they should dump all of their advertising staff and rely on subscriptions alone.
 
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