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What is the Ultimate Role of the Apple Tablet?
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Maybe, but I never mentionned GM, and the guy I responded to mentionned Cars, not GM.
"How We'll Interact" with the iSlate!
YES! I think you have a very valid and probable point! I remember a patent to this EXACT effect a couple of years ago. The front would be a normal multi-touch screen like the iPhone. The back surface, though, would have the soft, haptic typing surface. Brilliant actually. You type on the haptic keys, and the frontside keyboard responds as you type and lay down your masterpiece (or your tweet!) And this would not be some far-out, impossible thing to construct and bring to market now either! Very do-able.
And how would it feel to type this way? Great. How would it actually be done? Take a thin, 10 inch hardcover book. Hold it in your palms with your thumbs topside, on the edges. Your eight fingers are now evenly spaced along the backside of the device to "search out the haptic keys, and go where no typist has gone before!" And IF this IS it, I believe it will take off!!
YES! I think you have a very valid and probable point! I remember a patent to this EXACT effect a couple of years ago. The front would be a normal multi-touch screen like the iPhone. The back surface, though, would have the soft, haptic typing surface. Brilliant actually. You type on the haptic keys, and the frontside keyboard responds as you type and lay down your masterpiece (or your tweet!) And this would not be some far-out, impossible thing to construct and bring to market now either! Very do-able.
And how would it feel to type this way? Great. How would it actually be done? Take a thin, 10 inch hardcover book. Hold it in your palms with your thumbs topside, on the edges. Your eight fingers are now evenly spaced along the backside of the device to "search out the haptic keys, and go where no typist has gone before!" And IF this IS it, I believe it will take off!!
Apple Tablet impact could rival that of the iPhone:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/arts/04iht-design4.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/04/arts/04iht-design4.html
If can put WiFi into a touch certainly can put it into device much bigger.
It isn't whether is requires mobile service, but rather whether it will be sold unsubsidized. That seems likely. I think Apple will sell these "unlocked". The only thing that "locks" the iPhones is the exclusivity contracts. In countries where those are illegal Apple already sells unlock phones. If the device is not a phone then won't be covered by those locking contracts.
Not because of the mountains thing. I don't see the point on that aspect. If you are not going to be highly mobile with a Slate/Tablet that is going to offset much of the added value of it being lighter/smaller than other options (with more uses. e.g., a MacBook. etc. )
Also there is a much higher density of mountains and canyons in Manhattan and they have service. Population density plays a factor. Or demand...
http://www.daemonnews.org/2009/12/23/iphone-vs.-blackberry-in-the-california-outback.html
A better clarifying scenario is perhaps a school system that wants to hand these out in place of books + laptops to kids. [ where laptop is educational aid not install whatever random piece of software available. If take "book" budget and "laptop" budget for many schools and thats a large pile of money. If Apple can deliver a better solution , cheaper people will buy it. ]. They don't have or probably want a cell service contract ( e.g., kid takes slate and downloads 100 GBs of data, blowing out the monthly cap. ) WiFi will do just fine. The light and portability aspect is to/from school/home both of which can have high incidence of Wifi so still get utility out of it.
Depends on how Apple prices it. If it is $700-800 "unlocked" device not sure folks are going buy it in numbers that would justify a either a separate SKU that comes without the radio (and slightly lower price) or that's the role the 7" device is suppose to play (or vice versa on the roles where bigger, 10", is less mobile.)
FAKE. Although I like the features of Mac OS X 10.7.
Truer words were never spoken (in this thread)
Note taking device
I want to use the tablet to take notes in meetings, just like I could with my Newton... but with modern hardware and a modern UX.
Unfortunately, that requires a stylus, which Steve Jobs has declared anathema.
More detailed argument here: http://academicvc.com/2010/01/03/why-a-tablet/
I want to use the tablet to take notes in meetings, just like I could with my Newton... but with modern hardware and a modern UX.
Unfortunately, that requires a stylus, which Steve Jobs has declared anathema.
More detailed argument here: http://academicvc.com/2010/01/03/why-a-tablet/
The application sandbox is what protects us, not Apple being the sole seller.
Many companies and groups have shown off such a concept. However, it's normally meant to be used on tiny devices where even a single finger touch up front would cover most of the screen.
from article:
"....unveiled the first prototype of its XO machine in 2005, tablet computers have been one of the fastest growing areas of the computer market. ... "
What??????????
They have mashed tablets , OLPC, and netbooks all into one category. It is the "anything cheaper than a laptop" category. LOL.
The flaw in the "bigger impact" is that more folks have cell phones than newspaper/magazine/etc subscriptions.
Setting the Slate up to be "bigger than iPhone" is as goofy as every other phone being label "iPhone killer" by the press. The hype for the slate is certainly going to be bigger than iPhone .... but almost every new apple product line is bigger hype than the last for the last couple of decades.
Seriously mate, your either on drugs, drunk, or incredibly stupid as you STILL do not have a clue what my comment was stating.
Do yourself a favour, stop making useless posts, read the last few pages, use those 2 brain cells you have to try and comprehend what you have no idea about.
Why do idiots like this guy jump half way in a conversation and post rubbish?? Maybe his glasses are broken?
First of all, all you had to do was explain the situation/ conversation because quite frankly, I'm not going to read 789 comments within a single thread so no need for the jerk-off comment. Second, how is me stating my situation a "ridiculous claim". I was simply stating that I DO use this feature. Chill out bro.
EDIT: Then again, after stalking your profile and reading many of your previous posts, I wouldn't put such attitude past you. I'm not picking an internet-ego-filled argument, just sayin.
How do you see what the fronside keyboard is doing when the device is upside down?
Feel great sure. But it is a multisensory activity. You can't see anything. Typing with zero visual feedback isn't going to be effective. Vast majority of people are not that good of typists. Similarly, composition becomes more difficult the longer the piece you write. [ not legacy typewriter transcription where folks take written word and type it up. ]
Well, Steverino may have changed his mind, as they are now using iPod Touch devices modified to serve as point-of-sale devices in the Apple stores.....and a customer IS offered a stylus (with a soft tip) to sign on the iPod Touch screen when he or she is using a charge card or debit card to purchase an item. One time in the Apple store I used one of these special styluses and another time I simply used my fingertip. Voila, handwriting recognition software is in effect there!
An extra dollar on your part is a different resolution on millions of users' iPhone parts. So no.
Extra $ for an extra barcode is a single user perspective, not a manufacturer perspective. YOU MISS THE ENTIRE POINT BY NOT REALIZING THIS IS A MANUFACTURER/STOCKHOLDER PERSPECTIVE, WITH USERS AS "CLIENTS" NOT DECIDERS.
Software has to work on what ever the "decider" "decides" it has to work on. iPhone Touch on iPhone, iTablet Touch on iTablet. Be VERY careful what you wish for.
Please do not wish for Apple II, Lisa, Mac, Winblows. Please wish for Touch OSX.
Rocketman
P.S. I am all in favor of backward compatibility "in cloud" of ALL past OS's , yes including MacOS 4.2, 7.1, 8.6, 9.2.2, 10.4.11, 10.6.4 Amiga and Atari. Fine. Make me. I know. Atari Biplane rocked . . . . . . .
price?
what is the price point?
$500? $700 or $900?
i would want one with out the wireless company or contract.
what is the price point?
$500? $700 or $900?
i would want one with out the wireless company or contract.
The day they treat all Mac software like they have the app store is the day I sell my Mac and never look back. If how Apple treated the GV app is any indicator of how they will treat other competitors I guess that means no more Lightroom, or Office, or a host of other apps.
You do realize that giving a single company control over what you can and cannot have on your computing device is taking giant leaps backwards in the world of computing.
It seems from all this ranting that we might reasonably expect Apple to be going after the subscription periodical niche, to remake it into something profitable for them and for publishers. Because of this, and because of the dynamic nature of periodical publishing, it would also be reasonable to expect that 3G or LTE or whatever cell access will at least be an option, because people do like to have their magazines and newspapers with the freshest content possible. Inside Starbucks or Best Western, you do have WiFi, but in the mall parking lot, while you wait for your partner to shop, there is only cell. And, you know, that thread on Knitting Today, on the story about the new titanium needles just had a post that you are just itching to respond to. I mean, what is it that makes paperless publications attractive if not the forums?
And, no, the tablet will not come with a stylus, but there will be a surface sensitivity control that will allow you to use the toothpick you just pulled out of your mouth. (A control which may in fact be automatic so you never have to do anything but turn on the auto-sensitivity switch in Settings > General.)
And, no, the tablet will not come with a stylus, but there will be a surface sensitivity control that will allow you to use the toothpick you just pulled out of your mouth. (A control which may in fact be automatic so you never have to do anything but turn on the auto-sensitivity switch in Settings > General.)
That seems right to me. If Apple is concentrating on this as a media thing, 3G seems required. The Kindle doesn't require a subscription. Amazon pays the cost of the service and makes it back in the initial cost of the device and (I assume) on the sales of content. Maybe something like this for the iSlate.
Well, from the evidence of this forum...
It could but it's very unlikely. There was already a huge market for cell phones when the iPhone debuted; there's currently a miniscule market for tablet computing devices. Yes there are niche applications for it but if it's to become a consumer product Apple will have to invent the need along with the solution, and that's an iffy proposition.
Really the best scenario for this thing (assuming it's what it's rumored to be) would be something like the original Mac - a new paradigm for interacting with a digital computer device. But the Mac wasn't a huge consumer product in its early days, it was a niche product, and it took years before its computing paradigm became mainstream.
We don't even really know what the device is yet.
I loved my Newton. I still have the old MessagePad 2000. The thing is, I believe most of us can type quite a bit faster than we can write. The iSlate would most likely utilize some kind of keyboard as the primary input device. As far as its touchscreen and the potential use of it as a sketch pad, this is very likely. Just look at some of the art that was created on iPhone despite its very small screen. It will be pretty exciting to see what will be created on a much larger "canvas" of iSlate.
One thing which I notice in all this discussion is that, while the idea of reading books and magazines online with a small handheld electronic device is appealing...no one has mentioned the downside of this. You can't (or shouldn't) take an electronic device into the bathtub with you! I don't know about you guys but I really, really enjoy reading while I'm in the tub.......
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Well didn't you hear, this thing is waterproof too, sealed for the problem you are worrying about, and will even do your back if you need it
Just put a condom (waterproof housing) on it and it should be OK.
Quite seriously, scuba divers will also want to use the iTablet, so a wide variety of waterproof housings should be available about a week after it ships from Apple.
Haven't seen droid but those higher res screens are really nice to read.
I really wonder why there has been no suggestion of the iPhone (and iPod Touch Lines) spliting three ways instead of just two. All with Pixel Qi screens so notification screen is always live but black and grey.
iPhone Nano (smallest device that maintains function)
3.2inch screen would still be good targets for those with small hands ppi upper so overall resolution is as high or higher than current. Shrinks overall phone size say 10mm width 15-20mm length maybe 1-2mm thickness. Lots of colours.
iPhone Classic (adds function keeps bulk)
Same bulk as current phone but screen pushed to match of better the moto droid. Maybe taller screen (wider screen in landscape) so when using apps the dock stays on the screen so it can have limited multitasking and fast app switching allowed by better processor in same space.
iPhone Slate (adds size and function)
7inch screen comes with bluetooth headset. Allows more diverse input methods and much faster (multi-core?) processor
With the iPod variations replacing the current iPod line up a few months later.