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What kind of SSD in macbook pro 2011?

From looking around, the only 512gb ssd Toshiba makes has the following specs:

220mb/s read
180mb/s write

Puts it at a comparable level of the Vertex 2's. Thus, if it is indeed Toshiba drives they are using, and assuming build quality is generally high, they have a good drive in there.
 
daneoni said:
Is it any good or is it terrible?
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Same as in older, yet new MBAs (currently shipping ones have Samsung). At least the firmware in MBAs is great, which results in faster boot time than SF based drives for example. It's not the fastest in raw read and write speeds but it's a very decent drive.

Seems to be the same drive as in 2010 MBPs. Could be an updated firmware though.
 
slumpey326 said:
so the SSDs in the new macbook pros are good then? or did we need more time for someone to do a more deep dive review.
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The firmware still needs to be tested to really see how good they are but looks like the hardware is same as last year. Not "good" if you compare to upcoming SATA 6Gb/s SSDs but nothing completely bad either.
 
Hellhammer said:
The firmware still needs to be tested to really see how good they are but looks like the hardware is same as last year. Not "good" if you compare to upcoming SATA 6Gb/s SSDs but nothing completely bad either.
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cool, hopefully someone will post some results soon. I think alot of people are going to start getting their BTOs today.
 
Does anyone know if the sudden motion sensor on a MBP will still work if say the HDD was moved into the optical drive slot and an SDD replaced it?

I know the sudden motion sensor can be disabled, main reason is I want the SSD in the HDD slot is to take advantage of the SATA III port and the hdd can still use the sata II port
 
Nykwil said:
Does anyone know if the sudden motion sensor on a MBP will still work if say the HDD was moved into the optical drive slot and an SDD replaced it?

I know the sudden motion sensor can be disabled, main reason is I want the SSD in the HDD slot is to take advantage of the SATA III port and the hdd can still use the sata II port
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If you are asking if the sudden motion sensor is going to work on the HDD in the optical bay, then no.
 
SATA-3 may work - but how long and how reliable?

1BadMac said:
Yes. My '11 MBP 13" shows Intel Series 6 - 6Gb but negotiated at 3Gb link speed.

Will be curious to see the Vertex 3 performance figures and see if I can be convinced to trade up from the Vertex 2.
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You guys betting on the Vertex 3 are going for a risky (for your data) gamble. There are three key components that must all be fully working that a SATA-3 can work:
1. The SSD must support it
2. The SATA Port of the controller in the computer must support it
3. The OS Driver must support it.

In the new MBP Pro, points 1+2 seem to be OK. Point 3 is not supported by Apple and it might not work correctly.

There are several threads for example in the crucial SSD forum that deal with flawed SATA-3 performance of the C300 on certain SATA-3 controllers.

So even if you have a top drive (Vertex-3) and spent top money on it, you could get a very bad surprise when hooking it up to the MBP Pro. Even if it works today, there is no guarantee that it continues to work speedy and flawless after the next Apple Software or Firmware upgrade or after the SSD's next firmware upgrade.

I rater have a well working SATA-2 SSD with low power consumption and high performance, than an unproven, unsupported, SATA-3 connection that might not give a reliable throughput under all load conditions.
 
Bigmacduck said:
You guys betting on the Vertex 3 are going for a risky (for your data) gamble. There are three key components that must all be fully working that a SATA-3 can work:
1. The SSD must support it
2. The SATA Port of the controller in the computer must support it
3. The OS Driver must support it.

In the new MBP Pro, points 1+2 seem to be OK. Point 3 is not supported by Apple and it might not work correctly.

There are several threads for example in the crucial SSD forum that deal with flawed SATA-3 performance of the C300 on certain SATA-3 controllers.

So even if you have a top drive (Vertex-3) and spent top money on it, you could get a very bad surprise when hooking it up to the MBP Pro. Even if it works today, there is no guarantee that it continues to work speedy and flawless after the next Apple Software or Firmware upgrade or after the SSD's next firmware upgrade.

I rater have a well working SATA-2 SSD with low power consumption and high performance, than an unproven, unsupported, SATA-3 connection that might not give a reliable throughput under all load conditions.
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I think this is FUD. I mean, sure, Apple could have dropped the ball and there could potentially be some problem with SATA-III on the OS level, but I think that's highly unlikely. And even then, SATA-III is complete backwards compatible, so in a worst-case scenario a Vertex III would just run in SATA-II mode. Waste of money, yes, but nothing catastrophic (and nothing that Apple couldn't fix with a software update).

I'm curious, though: Has anyone already tried a SATA-III SSD in their MBP?
 
But troubles with the C300 on the new MBPs are reported here. The similar issue happens with the new intel 510 SSD. It seems there is a problem with 6Gbps SATA3.0 connection on the new MBP...
 
tmkk said:
But troubles with the C300 on the new MBPs are reported here. The similar issue happens with the new intel 510 SSD. It seems there is a problem with 6Gbps SATA3.0 connection on the new MBP...
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Can you post a link to 510-problems?

As for the C300, apparently its firmware is kind of crappy right now and some windows users are also experiencing issues.
 
Actually the report is on Japanese forum. The reporter says he has problems like OS install failure and sudden hang with rainbow cursor. After struggling with the drive, he finally managed to get the Xbench score:
Results 320.03
System Info
Xbench Version 1.3
System Version 10.6.6 (10J3210)
Physical RAM 4096 MB
Model MacBookPro8,3
Drive Type INTEL SSDSC2MH250A2
Disk Test 320.03
Sequential 207.70
Uncached Write 263.63 161.87 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 320.60 181.39 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 101.77 29.78 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 396.85 199.46 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Random 696.97
Uncached Write 462.69 48.98 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Write 563.75 180.48 MB/sec [256K blocks]
Uncached Read 1968.35 13.95 MB/sec [4K blocks]
Uncached Read 771.58 143.17 MB/sec [256K blocks]
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And there is another reporter who says the drive itself works but does not link with 6Gbps.
 
Seriously? Crap, I was just about to order one. Well, what the hell kind of SATA-III SSD am I going to get then? :(
 
Tyrion said:
Seriously? Crap, I was just about to order one. Well, what the hell kind of SATA-III SSD am I going to get then? :(
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with all the uncertainty about upgrade SSD's the BTO SSD are looking more and more attractive to me. Unfortunately I really need to go with 256, I might just get away with the 128 which is a great deal.
 
hoxley said:
with all the uncertainty about upgrade SSD's the BTO SSD are looking more and more attractive to me. Unfortunately I really need to go with 256, I might just get away with the 128 which is a great deal.
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Yeah, I got the 128, intending to put it in the place of the optical drive. I really want a SATA-III drive in the main bay, but currently only Intel and Corsair have options available.
 
axu539 said:
At least two MR users have also shown their system profiler screenshots. Interestingly enough, the 2011 MBPs seem to show "Trim Support: Yes." This is in 10.6.6, not 10.7. I'm not sure what's going on, but Apple might have thrown the TRIM support into the new build of 10.6.6. If that's the case, we can all expect TRIM support in 10.6.7 for sure.

https://forums.macrumors.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=273988&d=1299044646
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I think we should pay more attention to this post; this seems significant.
 
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The Apple drive is covered under warranty along with everything else in the MBP and other hard drives are cheap. Buy the Apple drive.

trevtech said:
I have the same question. Just posted it here...

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1103035/

The price for an aftermarket 128gb is the same price as the Apple upgrade price. No really, it is! (+/- $10). So it makes more sense to acquire the same drive elsewhere, and pocket the stock HDD for use as an external/PS3/whatever drive.

I figure its a Samsung, but would just like some confirmation.
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I know this is an old topic by now, but being in the process of purchasing my own brand new macbook pro, I was wondering why none of you seem to care about the lack of trim support for third party SSDs?

I know there's the trim enable, but with OS X LION it's not supposed to work very well.

Any input on this?
 
ottosen said:
I know this is an old topic by now, but being in the process of purchasing my own brand new macbook pro, I was wondering why none of you seem to care about the lack of trim support for third party SSDs?

I know there's the trim enable, but with OS X LION it's not supposed to work very well.

Any input on this?
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Because there is trim enable that does work well...if you choose

and with Sandforce GC it really isn't needed thats why you see the lack of concern
 
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