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Don’t really care what they do, as long as they remove the notch - it’s horrible, doesn’t work, and I returned my 16” as a result of it, sticking with my 2018 15” for now, while I re-evaluate the situation.

Let’s put it this way, there are more people most probably not going to upgrade because of the notch, than those upgrading because of everything else - If it wasn’t for the notch, I would have kept mine.
I doubt that very much…the notch is not a big deal to most people on this forum, based on the comments on dozens of threads.

if your brain can’t filter out something that you’re not looking at, then consult a specialist.
 
Personally, I'm disappointed that no one mentioned the Touch Bar.

I assumed the Fn keys would be coming back, but it would've been nice if there were a model that had both. The Touch Bar strip would easily fit in the aluminum casing space above the Fn keys. I'm not sure what I'm going to do when it's time to replace my 2018 MBP, but I'm not sure it will be another MacBook Pro with the Touch Bar gone.
You are the only one I’ve ever read with this take on the TB. I’m elated it’s gone. Lol :)
 
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The vapourware machines full throttle …

Face ID its almost certain. Now OLED might come in the iMac Pro … eventually in a new 32“ XDR display FOR $5K or so. Mini LED in both iPad and MBP Is here for the next 3 to 4 years or so. For these devices Apple will wait for the OLED production costs come down as well as maturity improves.
 
The vapourware machines full throttle …

Face ID its almost certain. Now OLED might come in the iMac Pro … eventually in a new 32“ XDR display FOR $5K or so. Mini LED in both iPad and MBP Is here for the next 3 to 4 years or so. For these devices Apple will wait for the OLED production costs come down as well as maturity improves.

iNotch Pro 1080p upgradable to a bigger iNotch featuring a 4K camera

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If you need a MacBook Pro, buy a MacBook Pro. You won’t be disappointed
Don't get me wrong, I'm stoked for the M1 Max I'm getting, especially since I heroically carried on one year of intense motion design work on an M1 Mini (not a machine suited for this workflow) as I was sure the macbooks would have been glorious, and my wished have been granted.
So yeah, I'll enjoy the living s**t out of the computer (16" M1 Max 32 core and 1TB SSD)!
The only trouble is that I canceled my previous 2 order as I gathered the funds to get a better spec (with soldered components, it is the only way).

The hardest part will be waiting for early-to-mid december, however all my purchases from apple in 20-21 have arrived one week before anticipated.
Fingers Crossed ?
 


With Apple's long-awaited new MacBook Pro now available, there are early signs of what we could expect from the MacBook Pro going forward as the company iterates on its major 2021 redesign.

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Following a major redesign year, the MacBook Pro has typically received smaller annual updates. For example, following 2016's MacBook Pro redesign, subsequent models introduced new processors, GPUs, tweaked keyboards, Bluetooth 5.0, the T2 chip, True Tone, and larger batteries.

At this early stage, there are at least four substantial upgrades on the cards for future MacBook Pro models.

Face ID

Although Apple executives recently claimed that Touch ID is more convenient on the MacBook Pro, the company is believed to have been working on Face ID for the Mac for some time. Apple purportedly originally planned to introduce Face ID for the Mac on 2021's 24-inch iMac, but the feature was apparently delayed for a later iteration of the machine.

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Face ID is believed to be coming to the Mac within "a couple of years." Now that the MacBook Pro has a notch, it seems that the groundwork is in place to add a TrueDepth camera array to enable Face ID in the future.

M2 Pro and M2 Max

"M2 Pro" and "M2 Max" will presumably succeed Apple's M1 Pro and M1 Max custom silicon chips. Just as the M1 Pro and M1 Max are scaled-up versions of the M1 chip, the M2 Pro and M2 Max will likely be based on the "M2" chip.

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The M2 chip is expected to debut in the 2022 redesigned MacBook Air. According to Bloomberg's Mark Gurman, the chip will have the same 8-core CPU as the ‌M1‌. It is expected to have additional GPU cores, with 9 and 10-core GPU options, up from the 7 and 8-core GPU options in the original ‌M1‌ chip. There may also be speed and efficiency improvements due to the chip being built on a smaller node.

Following the way that the M1 Pro and M1 Max built on the M1 chip, the M2 Pro and M2 Max could feature the same number of CPU cores as their predecessors, but add GPU cores and benefit from overall speed and efficiency improvements.

A recent report from The Information laid out the alleged roadmap for Apple silicon in the coming years, and explained that Apple is working on successors to the M1 Pro and M1 Max chip that feature more cores and are manufactured with an enhanced version of TSMC's 5nm process.

Further in the future, those second-generation chips will apparently be succeeded by MacBook Pro chips with up to 40 compute cores that are fabricated using TSMC's 3nm process by 2023.

OLED Displays

Apple is said to be developing two-stack OLED displays for multiple future devices, including MacBook Pro models, that are up to two-times brighter.

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An OLED display could come to the 16.2-inch MacBook Pro first, potentially launching as soon as 2022 according to one report. The panels may be manufactured by Samsung.

The 14- and 16-inch MacBook Pro models made the switch to mini-LED technology this year, so it would be unusual for Apple to change to another display technology within one iteration. Nevertheless, it seems that an OLED MacBook Pro is likely for the coming years, bringing higher brightness, improved contrast, and deeper blacks with no blooming effect.

5G Connectivity

Apple has apparently developed "underlying Mac support" for cellular connectivity, according to Gurman. While this rumor originated from a report about the next-generation MacBook Air, it seems inevitable that if the MacBook Air is set to get cellular connectivity, the feature will also come to the MacBook Pro.

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Apple is in the process of rolling out 5G to its cellular-enabled devices, with the iPhone 12, iPhone 13, iPad Pro, and iPad mini now offering the next-generation connectivity. Apple currently relies on Qualcomm, but the company is believed to be working on its own custom modem that is set to appear in iPhones as soon as 2023. It is not unreasonable to speculate that this custom modem could also be the basis of 5G connectivity in the MacBook Pro within a similar timeframe.

Release Date

There is as yet no sign of when we could see an updated high-end MacBook Pro launch, but mid- to late 2022 or early to mid-2023 seem like reasonable guesses.

In previous years, Apple typically updated the MacBook Pro every year. Things have not been so clear-cut in recent times, however. The 16-inch MacBook Pro was announced in November 2019, and went without an update for a year and 11 months. The previous, 13-inch high-end MacBook Pro was updated in July 2019, May 2020, and then replaced by the 14-inch model last month.

Now that the MacBook Pro features Apple silicon, it is not clear if there will be a completely different launch timetable for the MacBook Pro. It is possible that since the 2021 MacBook Pro models appeared to have been delayed for several months, an updated model could be coming within less than a year. Apple is no longer reliant on Intel to update the processors in its machines, meaning that there could be a more regular update cycle akin to the iPhone.

At the same time, the semiconductor shortage, backordered deliveries, and late-stage launch of the current model may push out the launch of a successor. The scale of the most recent redesign and the performance of the M1 Pro and M1 Max may also make the company more willing to keep the current machine around for longer.

Article Link: What Next for MacBook Pro? Four Upgrades We're Likely to See
No need to introduce yearly updates unless the market can keep up..

We may see a change in the air. The current MacBook Pro’s (except the notch) are powerful enough to wait for another offering to march or June 2023 at the earliest…

Now “if” they the OS can go back to at least every two years to polish it up before release, that would be a good thing.
 
You don't have the time to enjoy a purchase that you already have a better version of it at the horizon...
Still haven't received my M1 max and I have to worry it'll be obsolete in one year.
I would have preferred a 2 year update cycle.
Your M1 won’t be obsolete. It will continue to function and remain supported for many years.

Perhaps tou review the definition of the word?

obsolete
/ˈɒbsəliːt/

adjective

1.
no longer produced or used; out of date.
"the disposal of old and obsolete machinery"

Similar:
out of date
outdated
outmoded
old-fashioned

The M1 is none of the above, and will still be used by happy owners for many years. There is always something newer and better around the corner, but that doesn’t invalidate what we already have.
 
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it is a shame the m1 line up is not for gaming right now, otherwise it would be a no brainer for me to get a 27 inch iMac or a well specced m1 Max Mac mini. I hope apple can get developers on board or subsidize them to release AAA games for Apple silicon.

Everyone is telling us there is more money in mobile gaming, but releasing AAA games for the Mac would seriously boost Mac market share. Even for pro users it could be a deciding factor between a mac and pc , if they are looking for an allround computer.
 
Hardware is not the issue. Problem is software availability on the Mac. It feels like 1 in every 1000 new desktop apps are actually ported to Mac. Not being able to play the latest AAA games isn’t an excuse on computers that cost over $2000. Work on this weakness FFS!
It may come as a shock to you, so please sit down. Most people buy a MacBook Pro to do work and not to play games. I hope you can recover quickly from this.
 
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I don't understand why people are saying that Face ID will be implemented on upcoming Macbook Pro's. Apple have already made an official statement that they believe Touch ID is more convenient for MacBook's... yet the arm chair CEO's think they know better???
 
I really don't foresee the multi-die Pro and Max chip variants being used in MacBook Pros as the article suggests. The power draw and heat dissipation of 40 CPU cores would be enormous, no matter the efficiency gains of Apple's architecture. These chips are likely destined for the Mac Pro and an upper-end iMac Pro as the logical successors to Xeon chips with dozens of cores, with the single-die Pro and Max in the MacBook Pros, high-end mini, and consumer 27" iMac.
 
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OLED is inferior to Mini-LED in terms of HDR, because OLED simply doesn't get bright enough on anything larger than a phone.

Apple isn't going to move backwards.
OLED is also less than ideal for computers due to the higher risk of image retention/burn in. Static interface elements like the Mac menu bar, dock, and Windows taskbar can all raise the risk of this in a way you don't see on TV or mobile.
 
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I’d welcome Center Stage, even for current M1 laptops. It’s a SW feature anyway, could be included with an update. But let’s be honest, that will never happen.
 
M1 is just the first of a chip which is highly sophisticated and energy efficient. Unfortunately the global chip shortage may add time to the newer chip coming to fruition but when M2 comes it will be worth the wait. It will give Apple more time to Polish it and Refine it
 
Changes that should definelty happen:

More high-efficiency cores for much longer web-browsing battery life for when not doing intense work and battery life is paramount.

Changes I'd love to see that probably won't happen:

1. clips on the power brick for cable management, like MagSafe second gen. Keep the cable separate and detachable but add those clips and the small tidy clip. 2. One USB-A port. 3. Faster HDMI (because why not). 4. Faster SD Card (because why not). Further improved upon keyboard feel to rival Carbon X1 Thinkpad keyboards.

Changes I'd love to see that won't happen:

5. Option to purchase a MBP with no camera and no notch. 6. High water-resistance protection.

Changes I don't care about: Face ID and 5G
Ikr ? I'm wondering why these MBP didn't get at least 4e cores ? Tbh in refraining from getting one because of this lol
 
[those M2 Pro and M2 Max] "second-generation chips will apparently be succeeded by MacBook Pro chips with up to 40 compute cores that are fabricated using TSMC's 3nm process by 2023."

Just because Apple may be developing a quad die 40 core system does NOT mean it's going into the MacBook Pro. You need mains power for that type of setup.
Ikr haha ,more likely some Mac pro
 
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