What no one is mentioning iPhone 8 Plus

TheRealAlex

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Unless you hang around a lot of teenagers you would realize that size matters, There has to be a reason every teen is carrying a 5.5" Phablet. Or iPhone 7 Plus it's a social filter the bigger the better it lets them play games easier, share their screen with others better for movie watching etc.

So with all the leaked pics of the IPhone 8 it has me thinking, that Apple is making a mistake probably because 5.5" or 5.7" is the only Size OLED Display they could source from Samsung in enough time. But it ends up not too much larger than the old iPhone 7. Yes the display area is improved. But what matters is BIGNESS, and it's not gonna be there.

Samsungs Note 8 will feature a 6.4" 4K HDR OLED edgless display yes Samsung kept the best for themselves. But I'd wager anything that in late 2018 Apple will launch an iPhone 8 Pro with a massive 6.4" 4K HDR OLED made by guess who. And everyone who buys an iPhone 8 this year will lose their minds for the IPhone 8 Pro.


http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/massius30/media/20160923_231947_resized_zpsew07mayw.jpg.html

Look at them. The market in my humble opinion wants larger phones which are social filters It's says hey this phone is the best of the best, and a minuscule size barely bigger than the old 7 doesn't convey enough swag.
 
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By getting rid of the bezel, Apple will be able to fit a bigger screen in the form factor similar to iPhone 7. This is what happened with Samsung S7 -> S8. Perhaps more people will switch back from 6+/6S+/7+ to just iPhone 8 (not 8+).
 

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Unless you hang around a lot of teenagers you would realize that size matters, There has to be a reason every teen is carrying a 5.5" Phablet. Or iPhone 7 Plus it's a social filter the bigger the better it lets them play games easier, share their screen with others better for movie watching etc.

So with all the leaked pics of the IPhone 8 it has me thinking, that Apple is making a mistake probably because 5.5" or 5.7" is the only Size OLED Display they could source from Samsung in enough time. But it ends up not too much larger than the old iPhone 7. Yes the display area is improved. But what matters is BIGNESS, and it's not gonna be there.

Samsungs Note 8 will feature a 6.4" 4K HDR OLED edgless display yes Samsung kept the best for themselves. But I'd wager anything that in late 2018 Apple will launch an iPhone 8 Pro with a massive 6.4" 4K HDR OLED made by guess who. And everyone who buys an iPhone 8 this year will lose their minds for the IPhone 8 Pro.


http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/massius30/media/20160923_231947_resized_zpsew07mayw.jpg.html

Look at them. The market in my humble opinion wants larger phones which are social filters It's says hey this phone is the best of the best, and a minuscule size barely bigger than the old 7 doesn't convey enough swag.
Really?

LOL! I'm not buying my 13 year old a plus phone. He does just fine with my wife's old iPhone 5. If he REALLY wants to play with something bigger he's got his own 15" PowerBook G4 to use. And if that's not enough, he can play on the Wii connected to our 46" HDTV or hook the PowerBook G4 up to it.
 

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By getting rid of the bezel, Apple will be able to fit a bigger screen in the form factor similar to iPhone 7. This is what happened with Samsung S7 -> S8. Perhaps more people will switch back from 6+/6S+/7+ to just iPhone 8 (not 8+).
Agreed, yet my main issue is BIGNESS. Our society is based on social filters. People want swag they want to flaunt what's new. And while the display overall area is larger the iPhone 8 will end up being no bigger than the old IPhone 6 or 7.

Look at sales of Larger Plus models through the roof. Why pay for an iPad Mini when a Large 7 Plus will be good enough.

The IPhone 8 minuscule footprint while having a large display is the problem.

There's No BIGNESS there, there nothing to wow people. Unlike when someone has an iPhone 7 Plus and it's a statement piece and says this person is serious about their smartphone. They have upped their game.

The IPhone 8, tiny size overall does not make a statement.

I am personally looking for ward to the Samsung Note 8 and a 6.2" or 6.4" OLED HDR 2K or 4K Display.
 
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Agreed, yet my main issue is BIGNESS. Our society is based on social filters. People want swag they want to flaunt what's new. And while the display overall area is larger the iPhone 8 will end up being no bigger than the old IPhone 6 or 7.

Look at sales of Larger Plus models through the roof. Why pay for an iPad Mini when a Large 7 Plus will be good enough.

The IPhone 8 minuscule footprint while having a large display is the problem.

There's No BIGNESS there, there nothing to wow people. Unlike when someone has an iPhone 7 Plus and it's a statement piece and says this person is serious about their smartphone. They have upped their game.

The IPhone 8, tiny size overall does not make a statement.
My son is 13. He's not on social media and he's only allowed certain email accounts. He can text his friends just fine on his iPhone 5.

I get your argument (don't necessarily agree/disagree with it) but a larger size is not something my son needs. It MAY be what he wants, but it won't be me buying it for him.
 
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Unless you hang around a lot of teenagers you would realize that size matters, There has to be a reason every teen is carrying a 5.5" Phablet. Or iPhone 7 Plus it's a social filter the bigger the better it lets them play games easier, share their screen with others better for movie watching etc.

So with all the leaked pics of the IPhone 8 it has me thinking, that Apple is making a mistake probably because 5.5" or 5.7" is the only Size OLED Display they could source from Samsung in enough time. But it ends up not too much larger than the old iPhone 7. Yes the display area is improved. But what matters is BIGNESS, and it's not gonna be there.

Samsungs Note 8 will feature a 6.4" 4K HDR OLED edgless display yes Samsung kept the best for themselves. But I'd wager anything that in late 2018 Apple will launch an iPhone 8 Pro with a massive 6.4" 4K HDR OLED made by guess who. And everyone who buys an iPhone 8 this year will lose their minds for the IPhone 8 Pro.


http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/massius30/media/20160923_231947_resized_zpsew07mayw.jpg.html

Look at them. The market in my humble opinion wants larger phones which are social filters It's says hey this phone is the best of the best, and a minuscule size barely bigger than the old 7 doesn't convey enough swag.
If people wanted big phones, rather than big displays, everyone wouldn't be going crazy about eliminating bezels. I disagree with your thesis. People want large usable displays, but small phones that are comfortable to hold in one hand and easily fit in their pockets.
 

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Maybe 6.2" source Google it yourself.

That being said I want to reiterate the IPhone 8 tiny size doesn't make a stament it doesn't stand out.

However whene someone pulls out a 6.2" Samsung with a bright 2K or 4K OLED display that says I'm serious it's a Statement it's a big FU tiny to phones.
 

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I'm sure most people (including myself) get the plus because the screen is bigger, the battery is bigger and the camera has more features. Not just because it's bigger.
 

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True especially if apple is unable to integrate Touch ID into the display. It is rumored that the note 8 will feature a fingerprint sensor in the display.
 
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Bigness isn't the only thing that matters. If it was, iPhone ownership among teens would be nil - it's never had the biggest screen. Brand is also a huge status symbol. Somewhat-smaller-screen and the right brand is a winning combination.
 

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Maybe 6.2" source Google it yourself.

That being said I want to reiterate the IPhone 8 tiny size doesn't make a stament it doesn't stand out.

However whene someone pulls out a 6.2" Samsung with a bright 2K or 4K OLED display that says I'm serious it's a Statement it's a big FU tiny to phones.
That's not really a statement that most really go for or even consider. As far as kids or some other smaller groups caring about it, well, there are all kinds of fads that are in play when it comes to kids and perhaps some other groups, but that doesn't really make those fads meaningful or something that needs to be catered to.
 
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Maybe 6.2" source Google it yourself.

That being said I want to reiterate the IPhone 8 tiny size doesn't make a stament it doesn't stand out.

However whene someone pulls out a 6.2" Samsung with a bright 2K or 4K OLED display that says I'm serious it's a Statement it's a big FU tiny to phones.
You are actually the first person I have ever encountered who wants their phone to have a larger footprint than necessary. I've never known this to be considered a status symbol, otherwise people wouldn't be complaining about how unnecessarily large the 7+ is for its screen size.
 
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This thread most certainly doesn't speak the truth.

Look what Samsung did with the s8+... it's a 6.2" screen with a smaller footprint than the 7 plus.

The regular S8 is 5.8" with almost the same footprint of the iPhone 7... people WANT bigger screens in a smaller footprint they don't want HUGE SCREENS WITH A LARGE FOOT PRINT...
 

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It's disgusting that people even have the mindset the OP mentions. As they gets older, hopefully their perspective on life will change. Buying material goods to show off and impress is just pathetic. Adding the whole "bigger is better" element is simply another layer of lunacy.
 

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Please do share how you know this? I would be interested in reading your claim.
I think he is just talking about rumors and speculations which are floating on web these days, there are dozens of reports mentioning about Note 8 to have 4k display.Nothing is confirmed!

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Alle...play-6-GB-RAM-mysterious-perforations_id92334

http://www.techradar.com/news/the-samsung-galaxy-note-8-has-to-have-a-4k-screen

https://android.gadgethacks.com/new...undup-4k-display-6-gb-ram-bixby-more-0176469/

http://www.valuewalk.com/2017/05/galaxy-note-8-dual-cameras-4k/
 
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I think he is just talking about rumors and speculations which are floating on web these days, there are dozens of reports mentioning about Note 8 to have 4k display.Nothing is confirmed
@Sunny1990. Of course nothing is confirmed. We already know that Based on what a rumor says, hence why others asked about his claim. The point is, he stated In his initial post, "Samsungs Note 8 will feature a 6.4" 4K HDR OLED display." He stated that definitively.

And then @iOSUser7 asked the Real Alex in Post #9 and he replied "Maybe 6.2, Google it", indicating he doesn't know what Samsung will release. That was the whole point if you read back.
 
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I have at least a dozen teens I'm around on a regular basis and only one of them has a Plus phone and that was only because I gave it to her as a present. Her iPhone 5 was a beaten and broken mess and my sister almost kicked my ass for gifting her my 6s Plus 128GB.
Even she has told me almost none of the kids she goes to school with have any phones as large as hers.
My son, same age as my niece already had a regular 6 and he passed on the plus when I offered it to him first.
 

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Unless you hang around a lot of teenagers you would realize that size matters, There has to be a reason every teen is carrying a 5.5" Phablet. Or iPhone 7 Plus it's a social filter the bigger the better it lets them play games easier, share their screen with others better for movie watching etc.

So with all the leaked pics of the IPhone 8 it has me thinking, that Apple is making a mistake probably because 5.5" or 5.7" is the only Size OLED Display they could source from Samsung in enough time. But it ends up not too much larger than the old iPhone 7. Yes the display area is improved. But what matters is BIGNESS, and it's not gonna be there.

Samsungs Note 8 will feature a 6.4" 4K HDR OLED edgless display yes Samsung kept the best for themselves. But I'd wager anything that in late 2018 Apple will launch an iPhone 8 Pro with a massive 6.4" 4K HDR OLED made by guess who. And everyone who buys an iPhone 8 this year will lose their minds for the IPhone 8 Pro.


http://s1209.photobucket.com/user/massius30/media/20160923_231947_resized_zpsew07mayw.jpg.html

Look at them. The market in my humble opinion wants larger phones which are social filters It's says hey this phone is the best of the best, and a minuscule size barely bigger than the old 7 doesn't convey enough swag.
I'm sure what you said does play a factor. I am curious, which country are you from? Just want to see the trend.

I thought the big phones are not that super popular in western markets like the US. The phablets are super popular in Asia though, especially in countries with frequent use of mass public transport. And many who have them are women. They carry purses/bags so pocketability is not an issue. The ability to enjoy their dramas with a larger screen on the go simply hits the point of their needs, thus the bet that Samsung made with the Note series hit the jackpot.

Personally I don't see the same trend in the US. Those who bought phablets mostly did it for bragging rights, or those who want best spec/largest battery. The demand numbers are not as big as some Asian countries. I could be wrong, but that is what I sensed.

As for Apple, imo their brand still carry a lot of weight. So someone with "smaller" iPhone 8 will still get the prestige vs a lesser known Android phablet.
 
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People are being quite critical here, especially those calling OP's mindset, disgusting...

I think OP is right. I don't think it's about "bigness", but there is a difference between a "big" screen, and a "long" screen. The S8 and iPhone 8 will have a long screen. The iPhone 7S+ will have a "big" screen, which is going to be wider than the 7 and OLED 8 will be. That is what is most preferred by people who want larger screened phones. 5.8" doesn't mean much if it's 18:9 ratio.

Those who favor large screen devices will notice this right away when they test out a iPhone 8 OLED vs iPhone 7S+
[doublepost=1496083788][/doublepost]To add further, OP; apple plans to finish rolling out their OLED bezeless designs to the iPhone next year, and therefore the iPhone 7 design will phase out, replaced by the OLED iPhone 8 design, and the iPhone 7S+ will phase out, replaced by next year's 6.x" bezeless OLED model. They will be back on track with one "regular" size phone, and one "plus" sized phone. This year is a stop-gap.
 
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People are being quite critical here, especially those calling OP's mindset, disgusting...

I think OP is right. I don't think it's about "bigness", but there is a difference between a "big" screen, and a "long" screen. The S8 and iPhone 8 will have a long screen. The iPhone 7S+ will have a "big" screen, which is going to be wider than the 7 and OLED 8 will be. That is what is most preferred by people who want larger screened phones. 5.8" doesn't mean much if it's 18:9 ratio.

Those who favor large screen devices will notice this right away when they test out a iPhone 8 OLED vs iPhone 7S+

To add further, OP; apple plans to finish rolling out their OLED bezeless designs to the iPhone next year, and therefore the iPhone 7 design will phase out, replaced by the OLED iPhone 8 design, and the iPhone 7S+ will phase out, replaced by next year's 6.x" bezeless OLED model. They will be back on track with one "regular" size phone, and one "plus" sized phone.
My objection to OP's post revolves around OP relating his points to teenagers.

Perhaps it is true in the places OP is, but it is not true in regards to my son - who happens to be a 13 year old teenager.

With two children I am often in the places they are and see the phones their friends/schoolmates carry and not too many of those are plus size phones.

So, this is not the reality the OP states it is where it concerns MY teenager.
 
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My objection to OP's post revolves around OP relating his points to teenagers.

Perhaps it is true in the places OP is, but it is not true in regards to my son - who happens to be a 13 year old teenager.

With two children I am often in the places they are and see the phones their friends/schoolmates carry and not too many of those are plus size phones.

So, this is not the reality the OP states it is where it concerns MY teenager.
I think that most people who have commented here misunderstood his intention when mentioning teenagers. I think he is simply stating for their lifestyle, if preferred, what they would choose. Which is the "future" of smartphone usage.

Sounds like most people here took it personally.
 
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