What`s up with this new style of apostrophe?

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  1. MACDRIVE macrumors 68000

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    I`ve seen a lot of people lately use this new style of apostrophe as opposed to the standard one such as this one ---> I've.

    Is this a new fad starting up or what? :confused:
     
  2. applekid macrumors 68020

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    ` vs. ' ...

    I don't know. Maybe feel more comfortable typing the tilde (~) key (below the esc key)?

    Weird people... :p
     
  3. powerdave macrumors regular

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    On some European keyboards, keys are rearranged to accommodate accents or extra letters and symbols. This was the case when I used a German keyboard- which meant that the regular apostrophe required the shift key to be pressed aswell, but the funky style of apostrophe didn`t! So I figured that's why people used it- it was more convenient.
     
  4. eluk macrumors 6502a

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    No. European keyboards have an ' (without shifting) and also ` (a grave). The grave is as you say an accent, but never a substitute for an apostrophe.
     
  5. Foxglove9 macrumors 65816

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    I've seen that being using sometimes too, but it just looks wrong. I always figured it was their windows driven computers screwing up their fonts or something, and not that it was intentionally done.
     
  6. powerdave macrumors regular

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    Presumably you're talking about a UK keyboard, which is what we also use in Ireland. I know that on a German 'QWERTZ' keyboard, you need to shift and press to get an aprostrophe.

    Edit: See what I mean?
     
  7. SamIchi macrumors 68030

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    First one looks wierd.

    Sorry to change the subject, but I read a couple things that sounded wierd. Like can you say "I've 2 apples" instead of "I have 2 apple" I know they're the same thing but the first one just sounds wrong. So are they both grammatically correct. There are some other ones but that's the only example I can think of.
     
  8. OutThere macrumors 603

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    Ce n'est pas un apostrophe, c'est un accent grave. C'est répandu dans le français, l'italien, le norvégien, et quelques autres langues.

    C'est à dire, c'est incorrect de utiliser un accent grave comme un apostrophe. :D

    très
    à

    pièce
    piège
     
  9. apfhex macrumors 68030

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    *thumbs up*
     
  10. cube macrumors G4

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    If it's not composed it's not an accent, it's a backquote. It is used in Lisp since decades.
     
  11. powerdave macrumors regular

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    Regardless of whether or not it's correct usage, people still seem to use it! I'm sticking with my theory for now!
     
  12. mkrishnan Moderator emeritus

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    Who`s using the accent grave as an apostrophe? I don`t think I`ve ever seen anyone doing that. `Tis silly. :(
     
  13. TheAnswer macrumors 68030

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    `Sufferin' `Succotash.

    Like that? That ju`st `seem`s `silly! :p
     
  14. cube macrumors G4

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    No. Like this:

    > (setq a 1)
    1
    > '(x y)
    (x y)
    > (setq b '(x y))
    (x y)
    > '(a b)
    (a b)
    > `(a b)
    (a b)
    > `(,a ,b)
    (1 (x y))
    > `(a ,@b)
    (a x y)
    > `(a ,(+ a 2))
    (a 3)
    > `(a ,@(list a 2))
    (a 1 2)
    > `(a ,@(list 'a 2))
    (a a 2)
     
  15. eluk macrumors 6502a

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    I did. Thanks for the correction.

    Cheers, this is one of the things that wind me up.
     
  16. Ugg macrumors 68000

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    It really depends on the context. The second one is used most but the first is perfectly acceptable.

    I've two apples to give you. I have two apples in the car.

    The second one would be used if you want to emphasize the ownership. The first maybe when the second verb, in this case, to give, is more important.
     
  17. Brize macrumors 6502a

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    I wonder whether the OP's talking about the 'smart' apostrophe that gets carried over when people draft their post in Microsoft Word and then paste their reply. Just a thought.
     
  18. mpw Guest

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    Totally off topic, but playing with the ` key I just hit it with the Cmd key and found it cycles through the windows of the app you're using. And if you do the same in Exposé it brings all the windows of each app front and centre in turn.:cool:
     
  19. killerrobot macrumors 68020

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    On Spanish keyboards, the accent ´ is where the apostrophe ' is (on the American-English keyboard). The `is above ´and the ' is above that.
    At first I would always write ´ instead of ', but my theory doesn't work for `unless I'm just really sloppily typing.:)
     
  20. SkyBell macrumors 604

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    We don't even know our own keyboards...:eek:
     
  21. janey macrumors 603

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    'tis also used for quotes in LaTeX.
    e.g. "``quote''" would give you "quote".

    it's not particularly new, i see it all over the place, i suspect mostly because of the lisp and LaTeX uses.
     
  22. dogbone macrumors 68020

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    What about “smart” quotes? Instead of "inches"
     
  23. Deepdale macrumors 68000

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    Alien invaders!
     
  24. tominated macrumors 68000

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    howthe hell do you use those without opening up the symbol palette?
     
  25. DoFoT9 macrumors P6

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    hahaha oh you poor poor man you have been missing out on this feature for a looong time!!! hahaha
     

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