What temps are safe on rMBP?

[throAU]

Very nice, equally it is a specialist component for enthusiasts. Mac`s run hot primarily due their form-factor,

No, as demonstrated, they run hotter than they need to due to crappy heat-sink machining and dodgy thermal paste application.

The engineering for the form factor, as demonstrated by doward, is fine. This isn't a design issue. It's a quality control problem.

The machines SHOULD run cooler and quieter than they do, but apple doesn't appear to be training their staff/robots properly in this area.

A little quality control here would alleviate an extremely common macbook issue (fan noise) - i've seen dodgy thermal paste application reports on ifixit for at least 5 years now - and probably reduce their returns due to overheating, etc. as well. It would cost them very very little to fix. We're not talking rocket science here, merely slightly closer tolerances on the heatsink machining and proper thermal paste application.

Say, $5 per unit, tops.

 

[Queen6]

No, as demonstrated, they run hotter than they need to due to crappy heat-sink machining and dodgy thermal paste application.

The engineering for the form factor, as demonstrated by doward, is fine. This isn't a design issue. It's a quality control problem.

The machines SHOULD run cooler and quieter than they do, but apple doesn't appear to be training their staff/robots properly in this area.

A little quality control here would alleviate an extremely common macbook issue (fan noise) - i've seen dodgy thermal paste application reports on ifixit for at least 5 years now - and probably reduce their returns due to overheating, etc. as well. It would cost them very very little to fix. We're not talking rocket science here, merely slightly closer tolerances on the heatsink machining and proper thermal paste application.

Say, $5 per unit, tops.

They are no worse or better than much else on the market, some have swapped out the thermal paste with negligible result, equally some have seen a significant improvement search for yourself. Want to see a change write to Apple directly. Some systems are flawed, many are not.

Thinner equals less airspace, smaller heat-syncs, reduced fan capacity, smaller intake and exhaust, this is just basic thermodynamics; larger surface areas, higher airflow equals lower temps. I also run Lenovo ThinkPads, none reach the temperatures that my Mac`s do, and I seriously doubt that the heat syncs are of any better standard give they are all mass produced items.

Apple is what Apple is your paying a premium for the Apple "kudos" like it or loath it, this is their spin, their game, if you are looking for a hand finished machine look elsewhere. Apple produces mass consumer product MBP`s are not the pinnacle of portable computing, far from it, however they are thin, light, powerful and have aluminium cases so any surprise that they run hotter than a comparable PC...

 

[throAU]

Point... missed entirely. And no it doesn't need to be hand finished.

Getting the heatsink compound application correct with no other change would be a start, and would probably even save them money by halving (or less) their heatsink compound spend.

 

[logantyler]

With average web browsing, skype, itunes and a USB fan, my temperatures rarely pass 45C.

 

[bkribbs]

Sitting in the apple store right now dumping pictures onto a flash drive.

Turning my laptop in and getting a samsung display for IR finally.

I asked about reapplying thermal paste and he said they would only do that if they are replacing the logic board. However, they do a stress test before releasing the laptop so they'll find out if it is a problem.