What things will the new iphone have that not on Galaxy SIII ?

[aztooh]

The big deal is if your battery drains, your phone is dead, and you can't do anything.

Have fun with that big screen, widget using paper weight if you have no battery.

And every volt wasted on widgets means I get less time talking, texting, emailing, browsing, and listening to music. Those are real features that are critical to a postive user experience.

When I had an android phone, after 4 hours I was turning off widgets, 4G,and nearly all background processes, along with screen brightness, to keep my phone from dying.

My i4S lasts 8 hours and I do nothing to the settings. That's a real feature.

Wow. Angry much? Do you not understand what I typed? As it is with my 4S, I keep the brightness way down to get any decent battery life out of it. Without even having widgets, I get no better battery life than I did on the Android device I used. I charge it to and from work, and everywhere else I go for that matter. And if you're really hard pressed for battery life....plug it in while working if that's possible for you (anyone posting on this website during the day obviously has a means of plugging in the phone--sans the folks doing it FROM their mobile device).

My 4S has NEVER seen 8 hours of use and I make sure to keep the brightness down, and it's rarely ever actually used to make calls. That's the REAL PRESENT.

 

[nefan65]

The big deal is if your battery drains, your phone is dead, and you can't do anything.

Have fun with that big screen, widget using paper weight if you have no battery.

And every volt wasted on widgets means I get less time talking, texting, emailing, browsing, and listening to music. Those are real features that are critical to a postive user experience.

When I had an android phone, after 4 hours I was turning off widgets, 4G,and nearly all background processes, along with screen brightness, to keep my phone from dying.

My i4S lasts 8 hours and I do nothing to the settings. That's a real feature.

Not sure why you were down voted, because your experience wasn't good with an Android device.

These boards are comical at best...

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Wow. Angry much? Do you not understand what I typed? As it is with my 4S, I keep the brightness way down to get any decent battery life out of it. Without even having widgets, I get no better battery life than I did on the Android device I used. I charge it to and from work, and everywhere else I go for that matter. And if you're really hard pressed for battery life....plug it in while working if that's possible for you (anyone posting on this website during the day obviously has a means of plugging in the phone--sans the folks doing it FROM their mobile device).

My 4S has NEVER seen 8 hours of use and I make sure to keep the brightness down, and it's rarely ever actually used to make calls. That's the REAL PRESENT.

Sounds like the phone has hardware issues. I've had the 4, and 4s. Both got/get very good battery life. If it's that poor, then somethings wrong with it.

 

[Kyotoma]

Not only is battery life YMMV, the 4S has had plenty of criticism for it, even around here. Mine seems like it has improved. But it's a trade off...more options, or more battery life. Having things like widgets and a larger screen is obviously going to drain your battery faster. What's the big deal? I'd rather have more features and have to maybe plug my phone in, say, while I'm driving...or into the computer while working. Not a big deal.

UI lag. Well, I've had one Android powered device (Moto Atrix). The only issues I had with that was scrolling wasn't quite the same, and pinch to zoom in/out was not as smooth. But people act like iOS never stutters; never freezes; apps never get hung up or that the phone never completely crashes. That's just not the case. iOS isn't perfect, why do we expect Android to be--especially when it has more going on?

And fragmentation? Well, that doesn't really matter when talking about one singular device....as long as it gets updates (that are relevant). Not to mention, iOS is fragmented as well.

Oh, and go Tribe

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Is "Siri 2.0" going to be a 'new' iPhone exlusive, or will the 4S get it as well?

Yes! Go Tribe! Haha.

Also, I never said that iOS was perfect. It just a lot less buggy than Android, from my experience. A simple hard reset(holding both buttons down) fixes 99.9% of the problems you'll encounter. Or killing the app from the Multitasking Tray and restarting it.

Also, with iOS, you're guaranteed at least two to three years of software updates. What Android device other than the Nexus line have that same reputation? Fragmentation has a lot to do with this. At any given time, an iOS build will support around thirty to forty different iOS devices including iPads, iPod touches, iPhones and Apple TVs. Probably even less given that there's only been 27 different iPhone models across five generations since the release of the Original iPhone in 2007. Meanwhile, Android has had to support well over 2,500 different pieces of hardware since it's introduction in September 2008, and that number grows daily. So yeah, while while iOS does have some fragmentation, they keep it to a minimum since they keep their hardware in-house.

Oh, and I'm willing to bet the full Siri 2.0 will be for the 4S and new iPhone when it comes out, with "enhanced dictation support for the new iPad".

 

[aztooh]

Sounds like the phone has hardware issues. I've had the 4, and 4s. Both got/get very good battery life. If it's that poor, then somethings wrong with it.

Define "very good" battery life? 8+ hours like the other poster claims? I've seen 7+ at times...but that's with the phone down to 1-3%. I keep the brightness at about 50% unless I go outside and need to crank it to 100% to even be able to see what's on the screen. And barely any talk time, which is a huge battery hog.

My point was, most of us have access to be able to charge the phone at some points throughout the day. And that I'm ok with doing that to have more features i.e. bigger screen, a faster phone, faster network speeds. If you're in your car, or at your desk...there's no inconvenience to just plug the phone in. There's no rule that says you can't charge your phone at all during the day.

 

[aztooh]

Yes! Go Tribe! Haha.

Also, I never said that iOS was perfect. It just a lot less buggy than Android, from my experience. A simple hard reset(holding both buttons down) fixes 99.9% of the problems you'll encounter. Or killing the app from the Multitasking Tray and restarting it.

Also, with iOS, you're guaranteed at least two to three years of software updates. What Android device other than the Nexus line have that same reputation? Fragmentation has a lot to do with this. At any given time, an iOS build will support around thirty to forty different iOS devices including iPads, iPod touches, iPhones and Apple TVs. Probably even less given that there's only been 27 different iPhone models across five generations since the release of the Original iPhone in 2007. Meanwhile, Android has had to support well over 2,500 different pieces of hardware since it's introduction in September 2008, and that number grows daily. So yeah, while while iOS does have some fragmentation, they keep it to a minimum since they keep their hardware in-house.

Oh, and I'm willing to bet the full Siri 2.0 will be for the 4S and new iPhone when it comes out, with "enhanced dictation support for the new iPad".

Yeah, I see they've already blown a 3-0 lead..awesome ha

I didn't say you said iOS is perfect, just a lot of people act like it is.

With the updates and fragmentation, something that isn't considered, just because the 4S/4/3GS are running 5.x.x doesn't mean it isn't fragmented. Hell, the 4 doesn't get all the features iOS 5 that they gave the 4S (namely Siri). Not sure what else is left off for the 3GS, not even counting different screen resolution and no FFC.

Let's look at the 3G. Sure, it was still supported with 4.0 when it was released. It didn't get all of the features, and 4.x (don't remember which release exactly) turned the 3G into a near worthless device. Yet people still touted that the 3G was received updates for X amount of time (there was a graph around here that was real popular showing length of support for devices). I'd rather Apple have said "hey, this new update won't run (efficiently) on your device, we're done supporting it" and let me decently fast 3G do it's own thing instead of letting me update to that abortion.

Okay, /rant!

 

[nefan65]

Define "very good" battery life? 8+ hours like the other poster claims? I've seen 7+ at times...but that's with the phone down to 1-3%. I keep the brightness at about 50% unless I go outside and need to crank it to 100% to even be able to see what's on the screen. And barely any talk time, which is a huge battery hog.

My point was, most of us have access to be able to charge the phone at some points throughout the day. And that I'm ok with doing that to have more features i.e. bigger screen, a faster phone, faster network speeds. If you're in your car, or at your desk...there's no inconvenience to just plug the phone in. There's no rule that says you can't charge your phone at all during the day.

No, never said you can't charge throughout the day. But if you're getting less than 5 - 6 consistently, it sounded to me like a hardware problem.

I get 8+ with regular usage; Web, email, music, text, and some calls. Granted, my calls aren't 10+ @ 30 minutes each, but at least 4 - 5 calls @ 15 - 20 minutes. Sometimes it's less, but it's usually when I'm in poor range of a tower for 3G, or WiFi when inside. That's rare, but happens...

 

[chambone]

I didn't say you said iOS is perfect, just a lot of people act like it is.

Let's just say it manages to run somewhat efficiently on small mobile communications devices. Unlike a certain other well-known mobile OS.

 

[Kyotoma]

Yeah, I see they've already blown a 3-0 lead..awesome ha

I didn't say you said iOS is perfect, just a lot of people act like it is.

With the updates and fragmentation, something that isn't considered, just because the 4S/4/3GS are running 5.x.x doesn't mean it isn't fragmented. Hell, the 4 doesn't get all the features iOS 5 that they gave the 4S (namely Siri). Not sure what else is left off for the 3GS, not even counting different screen resolution and no FFC.

Let's look at the 3G. Sure, it was still supported with 4.0 when it was released. It didn't get all of the features, and 4.x (don't remember which release exactly) turned the 3G into a near worthless device. Yet people still touted that the 3G was received updates for X amount of time (there was a graph around here that was real popular showing length of support for devices). I'd rather Apple have said "hey, this new update won't run (efficiently) on your device, we're done supporting it" and let me decently fast 3G do it's own thing instead of letting me update to that abortion.

Okay, /rant!

Yeah. I'm not sure why they blew that lead. They had it so early too. Shame but no surprise. Cleveland isn't exactly a pinnacle of professional athletics. :/

Anyway, your 'rant' actually plays into what I was saying before. It's not that iOS isn't fragmented, it's that it is a lot less fragmented than Android. One build of Android, let's take Gingerbread for example since more than 50% of Android devices today still run it(versus less than 6% for ICS, even though it's been out for six months), has to support hundreds of different pieces of hardware with varying screen sizes, processors, cameras, baseband chips, et cetera.

Your example of the iPhone 3G, while it has valid points in that iOS 4 did not run the most efficiently on it, kind of defeats itself because Apple did come out with more than a few patches for the 3G. Support for it ended with 4.2.1, and while it still runs slower than 3.1.3(which I believe you can still restore to, or use Whited00r to get iOS 4&5 features on it), it runs efficiently enough.

 

[lilo777]

resale demand

stores you can go to in case something goes wrong

IPS display instead of over saturated AMOLED that gets screen burn in

A physical size that is easy to manage one handed

Better on screen battery life per charge

Malware free

And of course the biggest one of all: iOS smoothness and integration

SIII does not have oversaturated colors. All reviews said that Samsung recalibrated their OLED screens for SIII and the colors look real now (but still with superior contrast).

OLED burn in is a myth.

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Compared to SIII, iPhone 5 will have:

* conventional LCD screen vs superior OLED
* smaller screen with lower resolution
* we do not know RAM size yet. Best case scenario - iPhone finally gets 1GB RAM
* probably dual core CPU. Best case scenario - quad core like SIII. SIII CPU will probably be faster (they have been for quite a while now)
* NFC? Best case scenario - iPhone gets NFC (like SIII)
* Barometer? SIII has one
* no expandable memory

It looks like iPhone 5 will have 70...80% of what SIII has spec-wise.

 

[nefan65]

SIII does not have oversaturated colors. All reviews said that Samsung recalibrated their OLED screens for SIII and the colors look real now (but still with superior contrast).

OLED burn in is a myth.

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Compared to SIII, iPhone 5 will have:

* conventional LCD screen vs superior OLED
* smaller screen with lower resolution
* we do not know RAM size yet. Best case scenario - iPhone finally gets 1GB RAM
* probably dual core CPU. Best case scenario - quad core like SIII. SIII CPU will probably be faster (they have been for quite a while now)
* NFC? Best case scenario - iPhone gets NFC (like SIII)
* Barometer? SIII has one
* no expandable memory

It looks like iPhone 5 will have 70...80% of what SIII has spec-wise.

Again, comparing functionality and how well an OS is optimized for a given piece of hardware with raw specs. I can take a 3 year old laptop, throw Linux on it, and it'll blow the doors off any Windows laptop with better specs, as it relates to how well it runs, and how fluid things operate. The iPhone and 4s have less specs than most, if not all the Android devices released in the last 6 months. Yet they still operate more smoothly, and reliably.

As for the other items; NFC? It's barely used anywhere. Lower resolution, yet still sports as many, if not more PPI. The result is a crisper looking screen. Have had MicroSD slots in a number of devices, some currently in use, and I've never even used them.

 

[shinobi-81]

An integrated iPod which syncs with my iTunes library.

 

[abthegreat]

Even with 1750mah the HSPA+ Gnex only gets 3.5-4hrs screen time. The large screen is really power hungry. This is after applying many mods and managing cellular data carefully.