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Well see.....

The only thing i still hate is the home screen (ball of apps) one must zoom in first...

Does it start off zoomed in ? I sure hope so.
 
I've spent the last 8 years since the iPhone came out weaning myself off of wearing a watch. I've tried to go back several times but find that I like not having something on my wrist. Not even an AppleWatch can make me go back...
 
I've spent the last 8 years since the iPhone came out weaning myself off of wearing a watch. I've tried to go back several times but find that I like not having something on my wrist. Not even an AppleWatch can make me go back...

I am the same way, but I think it's enticing because:
* I now use Siri a lot
* Notifications without fiddling to find your phone will be godsend
* The little things for messages might be fun
 
I sure hope there are better straps, and not all "tuck in" nothing to do...

This kinda looks too child like... :apple:

The only good thing i can say at this time would be siri. That alone, would be a seller. if nothing else was.

I'm just wondering how software updates would work on this..
 
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This will feed on the desire for innovation but I think the desire will tank and we will be hearing failure within 3 months.

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I expect cringeworthy pricing announcements tomorrow.
 
Why would you want a mouse and a keyboard on an iPad or iPhone? Kind of pointless...if you want one of those use a MacBook or an iMac

Ideally, I want a piece of glass & aluminium about 10-12" big that I can turn into a Macbook when doing serious work and iPad when consuming media.
Since iOS is 90% OS X, it's quite easy to imagine one instead of two devices to do 2 different jobs.

If the rumours are true and Apple is planning an ultralight 12" MBA with 1 USB port only, then why not insert a keyboard into the Smart Cover on an iPad and enable dual-boot. Heck, allow triple boot with Win8/10 to really steal Microsoft's Surface Pro show.

According to other rumours the new A9 chip will be powerful enough to rival the current entry level MBA. Why carry 2 devices ?
 
These people need a thread of their own. Call it the "I don't want it and don't understand why anyone would" thread, and let them post all of their repetitious questions and complaints there. At this point, they are less than chaff.

Sure they are, to people like you who just want the new product and will ignore any argument against it. The only reason it is repeated so much is because it is a valid argument for many people.

The iPod, iPhone, and iPad were all products that offered something unique over what was previously available. I honestly don't see that with the Watch. Otherwise I would get one.

If you want the latest product, go for it. But don't call people with valid arguments "less than chaff".
 
I'm thinking the original 13" MacBook Pro will be dropped. Given they've discontinued the MagSafe 1 to MagSafe 2 adapter and the 13" MBP is the only one that continues to use the MagSafe 1, they'll probably quietly kill that off tomorrow.
 
No it won't unless you're not used to buying anything Apple and don't really want/need it.

Buying a $3500 computer in 1985 ($7K now) is expensive, this is nothing to most Apple owners that actually care for it... Seemingly not you.

The Apple Watch is going to be expensive...I didn't say it was a bad thing...Al of Apples products are expensive...but $199 for an iPhone every two years is not bad, $499 every 5 years for an iPad is not bad, and the Macs have 10 year life spans...I am simply saying that unless the Apple Watch lasts 3-5 years, spending that much money on it is going to be pointless to most consumers....seemingly not you...

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Ideally, I want a piece of glass & aluminium about 10-12" big that I can turn into a Macbook when doing serious work and iPad when consuming media.
Since iOS is 90% OS X, it's quite easy to imagine one instead of two devices to do 2 different jobs.

If the rumours are true and Apple is planning an ultralight 12" MBA with 1 USB port only, then why not insert a keyboard into the Smart Cover on an iPad and enable dual-boot. Heck, allow triple boot with Win8/10 to really steal Microsoft's Surface Pro show.

According to other rumours the new A9 chip will be powerful enough to rival the current entry level MBA. Why carry 2 devices ?

You have a very valid point. I honestly wouldn't mind having a type of dual boot iPad but it would have to be that rumored 12.9 inch iPad Pro that is going around. The current screen size it really small to run a computer on...for me anyway...Haha!!! But some people don't mind smaller screens. Haha.
 
So I guess the better question/position is "what do you want on 'iOS' that is on 'Mac OS X' that Apple isn't giving you?"...because if defined that way, it is very probably coming sooner than you think.
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file tree? or finder?
 
Well see.....

The only thing i still hate is the home screen (ball of apps) one must zoom in first...

Does it start off zoomed in ? I sure hope so.

Yeah, I'm hoping there has been some work on the UI/UX. Doing some simple tasks and accessing some of the features seems overly complex in the previews we saw a few months back. It seems to rely a lot on gestures, which amongst average non-techy users hardly ever get used. The whole having to zoom-in/out and navigate using the crown I don't know about either.

In all it looks to be very un-iOS like, which could hurt them. Apple wrote the book on touch UI/UX and this looks to throw it all out the window. Look at how the move from iOS 6 to iOS 7 disrupted a lot of people, and that was essentailly just a re-skin. My worry is that tons of people are going to buy Watch, expect it to work along the lines of their iPhone/iPod and get frustrated when it doesn't. Only time will tell.
 
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I can envision a use case where the typical non-tech enthusiast uses the Watch much like they do their iPhone, and that's by only using a small fraction of its capabilities. They just want to appear cool and show off the Apple logo.

In that case getting three to five years will be easy. They'll most likely just wear it, as even once it's dated functionality gets boring and no longer supported, it'll still work as a basic time keeper.
 
I'm sure the Apple watch will be a neat device, but as a watch to tell time it's not a Breitling. Any battery life less than one year is a deal breaker for me.
 
really? really?

Sorry, missed the video when I visited earlier. Watch looks gigantic on woman's wrist. Ui demo is painfully fluffy. I am not pro watch--but i can understand people getting excited by new tech, But this looks painfully bad--how can you maintain interest? Happy Monday, everyone!

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There are apps for that. https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/documents-5-fast-pdf-reader/id364901807?mt=8

Is it robust as the Finder? No. But it is a pretty effective file manager that can connect/sync to just about any protocol.

This is like buying a start window for windows 8, 8.1. When apple makes and ios finder, i will be interested
 
I can envision a use case where the typical non-tech enthusiast uses the Watch much like they do their iPhone, and that's by only using a small fraction of its capabilities. They just want to appear cool and show off the Apple logo.

Well, any approval-seeking person who buys products only for a logo is going to be pretty disappointed as there is no logo on the watch.
 
:( No new MBP 15" until 2016...

wrong. its coming later this year

Excited to find out tomorrow. Not excited to have an exam during the same time.

fortunately, for me this is spring break week for me

With Broadwell-U 13" Retina MacBook Pro supports then 4K/60hz. Hope it comes also with native 2880x1800 resolution, then it's perfect.

What are you saying? if it supports 4k, then of course it supports 2880x1800. or are you saying the resolution of the screen on the laptop will be 2880x1800. because thats not happening

Said it before and i'll say it again... wish the face was flat instead of curved on the edges

we disagree

If they dont upgrade the screen, then the new processors should help battery life considerably.

But once you get past 10 hours of battery life, how could you really need anything more? I mean even if you do a 15 hour flight, you will spend some time sleeping, eating, talking to others or something. You couldn't possibly run through your entire battery in one flight.

And if you are the rare type that has to work onsite, then get on the plane and fligh a long distnace, then throw an iPad into your kit bag.

Basically it seems to me that laptops have reached the level of battery life where there is almost no benefit to extending beyond here.

What new processors help with battery life? broadwell doesn't offer better battery life than haswell? and the new CPUs are the same TDP
 
Yeah, I'm hoping there has been some work on the UI/UX. Doing some simple tasks and accessing some of the features seems overly complex in the previews we saw a few months back. It seems to rely a lot on gestures, which amongst average non-techy users hardly ever get used. The whole having to zoom-in/out and navigate using the crown I don't know about either.

In all it looks to be very un-iOS like, which could hurt them. Apple wrote the book on touch UI/UX and this looks to throw it all out the window. Look at how the move from iOS 6 to iOS 7 disrupted a lot of people, and that was essentailly just a re-skin. My worry is that tons of people are going to buy Watch, expect it to work along the lines of their iPhone/iPod and get frustrated when it doesn't. Only time will tell.

Yeah, that UI just doesn't work for me. It seems very unapple, it just doesn't seem elegant nor simple to me. But then I remembered the guy from Adobe was in charge of the Apple Watch software and it made sense lol.
 
I'm sure the Apple watch will be a neat device, but as a watch to tell time it's not a Breitling. Any battery life less than one year is a deal breaker for me.
I couldn't agree more. If you don't want your watch to do anything but tell you the time, a Breitling or a basic Timex quartz watch are perfectly (and equivalently) adequate for that task. The Apple Watch is overkill for you.
 
Honestly, this Apple watch is garbage. The two sizes are still too small to what I would prefer, and don't like having to charge a phone. Its only a companion device (aka needs an iPhone work fully), and virtually useless on its own. Battery run time too short based on rumours. It comes down to want vs need. I don't need a watch with all this crap. I prefer my Swiss Made Tissot T-Watch MotoGP edition - automatic - self winding - no battery - all mechanical. This is a proper watch. The Apple watch is basically a re-designed digital watch with an OS. Not to mention most of the health features have been scrapped.
 
Point taken, but I'd be shocked if Apple went full-on luxury with this product. It would limit the reach substantially right out of the box, something Apple does not want to do. This is the mistake made by Gruber. He thinks the Apple Watch will be marketed to watch snobs and will be priced accordingly. We already know that the watch snobs hate Apple Watch seemingly without exception, so why would Apple make them their primary audience?

And from Grubers latest post it looks likes he already starts eating his own words. From his blog:
I’ll stick with those — “final” is final. But here’s a spitball idea that moves the bottom two rungs down a bit:

Apple Watch, steel, Sport Band: $649/699
Apple Watch, steel, Classic Buckle: $799/849
 
I'm on the same boat. I don't see Apple selling the steel version for thousands of dollars, I'm thinking it'll be like around $500, maybe $600.
I think $600 is the minimum for the steel version to really signal a different category. As it has been said, it's a different case material (steel vs aluminium), different surface finish (polished vs brushed), different front cover (sapphire vs glass) and different backside (ceramic vs plastic).

An aluminium watch will easily get some nicks (I just have to look at my iPhone 5 and 6 vs the 4). The same applies for the front cover. I've just checked a sportwatch I own, the current model is sold for $350 in an aluminium/composite/glass version and for $500 as a steel/sapphire version (older case designs are sold for $300). But then the Apple watch is generally a higher end product (and Apple tends to sell at higher end prices). The sportwatch in question 'only' has an alti/barometer and compass, no heart rate monitor, no wireless connectivity, no apps, no colour screen (it is rated waterproof for 30 m, however, and battery life is something completely different).

The Apple watch might be 'obsolete' in three years, but then it keeps its capabilities the same way the sportwatch keeps its capabilities. If you are fine for many years with the functions of a given sportwatch, the only thing that makes the Apple watch 'more obsolete' is the fact that there will be improved versions. But people keep their sportwatch for many years if it fulfils their needs, despite newer watches with more/improved features will be available.
 
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