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This is very bad news with the "new" iPhone7 coming up.

So now please lets go back to the "products we love to use ourselfs" strategy.
 
Do you know about other interesting company which was much richer and far more prominent than Apple, called Pan Am?

Yeah yeah, and BlackBerry/RIM, etc. Where there's a success story, there's always a fall from grace as well.

Regardless, Apple have enough cash and experience to pull off some mindblowing updates to their products. Just hold the cynicism until the end of the year.
 
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Maybe if that idiot Tim Cook spent more time on the product line up and making it better instead of being a social justice warrior, things would have been in the positive. But that's just my opinion.
It's possible for them to do both, it just happens that the former is severely lacking compared to the latter.
 
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I'm tired of Apple's bean counting for God's sake. At least 140 billions are going to be spent on financial engineering, share buybacks for making EPS artificially look better, and then when talking about real business all they do is buying cheaper but worse companies, releasing soft speced products, or selling old products...

Why didn't they buy Spotify instead of Beats, for example?? SJ was not a bean counter, what this looks like is 1995 Apple
 
i honestly think apple needs to ditch these 16gb models and replace them with a more appealing 32gb or 64 fb variation for their entry level devices.
I see all these deals in stores for the previous gen iPhone 0$ down on a 2 year term (here in Canada) but only for 16gb models. Never a deal for the more appealing devices with more storage. I think that's one factor that pushes consumers towards other brands when picking a new device
 
The Wal St soothsayers will mark APPL down 10% even if the result come in at the top end of guidance. Even if they exceed the top of the guidance range the shorters will make hay. This is as inevitable as the sun rising in the East.
Perhaps APPL should change its ticker name to MSFT? :)
 
Yeah yeah, and BlackBerry/RIM, etc. Where there's a success story, there's always a fall from grace as well.

Regardless, Apple have enough cash and experience to pull off some mindblowing updates to their products. Just hold the cynicism until the end of the year.

I've been an Apple investor for years, this year there is nothing to see here. The iPhone 8 will be maybe the last iPhone's big battle, then they better jump into electric autonomous cars and on demand car service or some growing business.
 
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When are these figures being released today please EST? shouldn't it have been 8.00am EST

thanks

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"Apple will publish its third quarter earnings report at 1:30 p.m. Pacific Time (4:30 p.m. Eastern Time), and we will share the results shortly thereafter"
 
If forces of nature happened to be the main influence on a company's stock, I think a few more people would agree with you.

It is meant only as a symbolic expression, and not to be taken literally.

History is littered with previously blue-chip corporations (e.g. Kodak, Xerox, Motorola, Polaroid, Cray, ...) that have been taken down by disruptive technologies, and their inability to adapt due to faulty leadership.

"What goes up must come down" is my allegorical view of Apple today.
 
The Wal St soothsayers will mark APPL down 10% even if the result come in at the top end of guidance. Even if they exceed the top of the guidance range the shorters will make hay. This is as inevitable as the sun rising in the East.
Perhaps APPL should change its ticker name to MSFT? :)

MSFT has a much more foreseeable future and solid business than AAPL, that's for sure, that's why it has a higher PER.
 
Except, y'know, being CEO of the most valuable tech company in the world.
Lets examine that. Jobs left and formed Next, Apple down. Jobs returns, Apple up and becomes the most valuable in the world for the first time. Jobs leaves involuntarily, Apple appears to be going down. I don't think it is the tech, or the company, but just maybe some focus other than extreme political correctness and quite possibly a CEO that only do, at most, one thing at a time?

Apple fans want to be able to say their hardware is the best. Tim Cook has made sure they can't, with no explanation what-so-ever. AppleCare is slipping, services are slipping, iPhone is copying Samsung features and functions, Macs are out date, etc. You just can't say this is a coincident, meanwhile the CEO is reveling in the limelight as if that will make up for poor decisions.
 
What I expect is to make a pair of bucks with my short position. AAPL is dead money at least until the iPhone 8. Tim Cook I The Obtuse wants people to believe that they're diversifying into services. Go figure, if people stop buying iPhones, they will need Apple's services... sure mate, cool story.
It's not completely iPhone-growth or no-growth. Selling more services can raise the average revenue per sold iPhone.
 
i honestly think apple needs to ditch these 16gb models and replace them with a more appealing 32gb or 64 fb variation for their entry level devices.
I see all these deals in stores for the previous gen iPhone 0$ down on a 2 year term (here in Canada) but only for 16gb models. Never a deal for the more appealing devices with more storage. I think that's one factor that pushes consumers towards other brands when picking a new device
The amount of storage on an iPhone is not the real subject of this thread but for many of us, 16Gb is perfect. My 16Gb iPhone 6 has 7.6Gb of storage free. Please explain why I need more storage? Come on, the floor is yours.
Note, we are not all app junkies you know.
 
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Not to directly call you out, but I find that extremely difficult to believe after you said the following:



If you have any shares then I would be surprised if they can't be counted on your fingers.

I had shares, I don't have now. I'm not a stock lover, I'm an investor, since July 2015 I'm short AAPL.

Don't try to bother me insinuating that I don't have money, I couldn't care less. Stock buybacks are for losers, that's what they're. Winners increase EPS by increasing revenue and profits.
 
Don't try to bother me insinuating that I don't have money, I couldn't care less.

That wasn't my insinuation. I'm sorry if it came across that way. I apologise for being a little frustrated & I'll edit my original comment.

My apologies again.
 
AppleCare is slipping, services are slipping, iPhone is copying Samsung features and functions, Macs are out date, etc.
I am sure, we can find similar comments made every year for at least the last five years (heck, the Mac not getting enough attention, hardware and software-wise, dates back to the heydays of the iPod). That doesn't mean those sentiments are wrong, it just means that we cannot fully trust these sentiments. What is certainly true is that smartphones as a whole are approaching saturation in several major markets and that as a result more commoditisation is happening (which unless you have sewn up the market as Apple did with the iPod) is hurting Apple.
 
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Take the name "Apple" off and what do you have? A company selling old tech on products that can't be upgraded or easily repaired - for top dollar. Add to that an OS that is buggy, and more dumbed-down and locked down with every new release.

And surely if the iPhone had shipped with an OS as open as OS X was back then, it would have sold even more. Not.
 
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