What to expect from Haswell, when you are expecting

Here is the problem, I see numerous threads about haswell, and inputs on threads for people to wait, but what is that all about?

1) CPU

1.1) performance is going to be around 5-25% improved from the current ivy bridge line up.

1.2) There are some newer instructions for the cpu, those things make your cpu process your tasks faster


2) GPU

2.1) The gpu is going to be divided in several models: 4200 for ULV (read macbook air), 4600, 5100 and 5200, the last one is by logic the most powerful one, because it comes with more units that process the images and comes with embedded ram (its like the ram that comes in the gpu from the 15)

2.2) The expected performance from the 5200 is good, around the same improvement from the HD 3000 to the HD 4000, which was 50%, although there are people that think it will be lower than that, and I think it will be around the 640m that can be found in numerous notebooks

3) Battery life

4.1) New sleep state introduced, basically what this means is that your pc tries to make things as fast as possible and go to sleep, so it can save battery, but there are times when even when its "asleep" is too low, but in run mode its too fast

4.2) Aside that we expect some improvements regarding power consumption that are done with each new cpu that is released. And from the new chipsets

5) What Haswell isnt

5.1) Holy Grail

5.2) Flying Dutchman

5.3) Great boost in performance if you got ivy

6) Expectations

6.1) There are some expectations regarding the new mac line up, like:

6.1.1) MBP are going to die (I do believe that)
6.1.2) RMBP is going for some redesign (I do believe that)
6.1.2) Quads in the rmbp 13 (I want to believe that)
6.1.3) Different Sizes from what is currently offered, like 14'' or 17'' (I dont believe that)
6.1.4) RAM will be replaceable (unicorns do exist and fly, pegasus with horns)
6.1.5) Larger amount of RAM (I dont think it will happen on haswell, maybe broadwell since it introduces DDR4)
6.1.6) Dedicated gpu on the rmbp 13 (not only Im a talking fish, but I have a PHD in applied avionics for cows from the university Uranus)

If you can wait, wait. if you need, buy it - its that simple.

 

I dont know, given that from the plans intel will launch around june, add to that the apple refreshed last year around that so, july august is a good bet

I really dont know about that usb 3.0 issue, there is something fishy about it, that i cant grasp

I dont know if will have that. I hope so

the main problem is the battery life

and thats why i made this one, to avoid the spreading of countless threads of should I wait for haswell? My husband that went to buy a pack 15 years ago and never came back? or for the new and improved burrito from the corner?

btw we have some benchies on the 4600, its looking good actually

and you can clearly see the limitation of the ram

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/core-i7-4770k-haswell-performance,3461.html

there is a hope, and sincerely if they are putting that in a ulv package (which is the idea behind the multichip package), I can think that that table might not be enterely correct

the 7660g is around 50% faster than the 4000. But according to the performance from that review, we can say that the 4600 is almost there, just look at the benchies from the 540m, or the 430m, which is the 630m in the end.

Sincerely Im quite hopeful if thats the performance of the 4600, im going to be happy to see the 5200 in action

 

I dont know where you saw power consumption figures, please show.

I dont think that table is:

1) entirely correct

2) puts all mobile cpus in there

 

your guestimation regarding power consumption is not entirely wrong, the problem is that it can vary by as low as 10w or much more than that.

There is a reason that the x230 comes with a 90w psu when you equip with the i7 3520m, its simple, it sucks up more power than 65w when under load. And the system in total is actually more power efficient than what apple produces. You can guess how much that cpu consumes.

Another problem here is that according to intel that raise to the tdp was due to some of the functions of the pch being passed into the cpu, lowering the consumption and the tdp of the machine itself and raising a little bit on the cpu side.

a i7 3740qm can use up more than 55w when under load, dont want to know how much the 3920xm uses up.

the only guys in town that tdp = power consumption is nvidia. the rest it can very little or wildly.

btw according to toms, there are more quads that will come with the gt3, so yes it doesnt show. There is also very little need for the highest quads to have an igpu that is powerful (by intel standards), they are usually coupled with a dgpu, not to mention that would drive the cpu price more than it currently is, for example the 3840qm costs more than 500, quads start at 300 ish, dual cores around half of that.

 

more ram is a given/hope on broadwell with the introduction of DDR4, but Im not confident haswell will see that jump