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You're using your MB exactly the way Apple expects you to. However, I'm sure Apple is not ready to drop the audio port just yet, especially since they don't appear to be ready to support USB-C audio, or Lightning products on the Mac yet. And as others have pointed out, there's no guarantee that Apple would replace the port with anything, much less a second USB-C port. If the MB 3 ends up being a mere spec bump, it will be at least another year before Apple addresses the audio port. I feel like the MB is the prototype for changes to the Mac, and we'll see radical changes there first, just like the iPhone will see them first over the iPad. The MB is moving toward the iPad as a hardware platform, and for three years then, its customers will have been trained to use a single port, and increasingly rely on wireless.

The bottom line is that the MB is likely a consumer oriented ultra-portable, targeted at customers who came to Apple via the iPhone and iPad. It's meant to be used on the go, or at least on the couch, with wireless cloud support. If a customer wants or needs to use a hard-wired accessory, then there's a port for that. If a customer needs a full blown desktop, or "pro" experience, then Apple assumes you'll plug in a hub that allows that kind of expansion, or you'll upgrade, no need to provide additional ports. I originally expected to see Apple support Lightning audio across all platforms, but now that it's clear they aren't, and aren't supporting USB-C audio either, then it's clear they are focused on wireless audio despite the inherent quality compromise. With any luck, by maintaining the status quo for another year, wireless quality will improve, but in any event products like AirPods, and a jack-less iPhone will make customers more comfortable with wireless audio, as it becomes more affordable and ubiquitous. If anything the next gen MB will only get thinner and lighter, making the addition of extra ports even less likely, even if they remove the headphone jack, which is actually a major stumbling block to making the MB any thinner. I actually wouldn't be surprised to see the USB-C port go away altogether as high speed wireless comes to fruition, along with wireless charging; or maybe an entry level model without it, like the 2-port MBP. But that'll likely be a few more years away yet.

I cannot ever have a PC without a plain audio out of some sort because wireless audio delay makes it impossible to do any music production. Even a 1 millisecond delay starts to cause flanging effects. I think the best Bluetooth hardware still has delay in the tens of milliseconds.
 
I cannot ever have a PC without a plain audio out of some sort because wireless audio delay makes it impossible to do any music production. Even a 1 millisecond delay starts to cause flanging effects. I think the best Bluetooth hardware still has delay in the tens of milliseconds.

Which means if Apple drops the headphone jack on the MB, then you will have to use the USB-C port for audio, or you may have to buy a MBP instead, if you're not into dongles.
 
What will be interesting is which CPUs Apple picks for the Kaby Lake rMBs. The Skylake chips were branded as M3, M5 and M7, correlating with the 256/512 and BTO offerings. This year the M3 remains as such but the M5 and M7 are branded as i5 and i7, respectively. As well, the m3 and i5 are priced the same! Surely Apple won't have an M3 in the base and then charge $300 more for the i5 model (which costs the same as the m3 chip)?!
 
Surely Apple won't have an M3 in the base and then charge $300 more for the i5 model (which costs the same as the m3 chip)?!

That would be shocking... Apple chasing nothing more then profit... Unbelievable... :D
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I could see Apple doing that if all the chips were the same brand, but I don't know if they'd want the m3 chip to make the entry level rMB look like a lower quality.
 
What will be interesting is which CPUs Apple picks for the Kaby Lake rMBs. The Skylake chips were branded as M3, M5 and M7, correlating with the 256/512 and BTO offerings. This year the M3 remains as such but the M5 and M7 are branded as i5 and i7, respectively. As well, the m3 and i5 are priced the same! Surely Apple won't have an M3 in the base and then charge $300 more for the i5 model (which costs the same as the m3 chip)?!

Actually that's exactly the kind of thing Apple would do
 
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As well, the m3 and i5 are priced the same! Surely Apple won't have an M3 in the base and then charge $300 more for the i5 model (which costs the same as the m3 chip)?!

The Broadwell and Skylake m3 and m5 also were the same price! Of course, these are just arbitrary numbers. They exist only for manufacturers who buy small batches of chips. Someone like Apple will pay a negotiated price. It wouldn't surprise me if Apple pays the same price for all three variants, with the caveat that Intel controls the product mix.
 
It will be silently released on Tuesday the 18th

Long time lurker here.
I hope you're right as i've been waiting for this refresh for a few months. I was hoping for the addition of another port, but by the sounds of it, it will just be a spec bump.
 
Long time lurker here.
I hope you're right as i've been waiting for this refresh for a few months. I was hoping for the addition of another port, but by the sounds of it, it will just be a spec bump.

A spec bump would make the most sense as that would allow Apple to maintain the current price with a straight face. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time Apple has kept the status quo without changing a thing -- after all they just introduced 3 new MBP models.

As far as adding a second port, there are lots of other reasons mentioned above that it's not likely to happen now, but certainly not impossible from a leak/rumor standpoint. Considering they would only be adding a port they already include on other products, and there's some indication they may have prepared the 2nd gen model for an easy addition of one, combined with the fact there's very little change required to the chassis itself, all of which can be accommodated by altering the aluminum milling software -- it would seem to be an easy change at the last minute to avoid the usual leaks. And I'd be surprised if the original MB wasn't prototyped with two ports, meaning they wouldn't have to really go through that process again, just flip the switch. If they were releasing it in the new iPhone black, that would probably get more leaks ... But I wouldn't rule that out either, as it's a last minute change as well; maybe even a red one? Heck, they could even justify maintaining the price for color alone, without a spec update, and give last years color models a price drop.
 
As there has not been any reports of a redesign on the MacBook, I would expect this to be released quietly before the end of this month. My 2015 MacBook bought on April 31 is still chugging along, except the battery has degraded to about 85 percent of its fully capacity; otherwise the keyboard is fine, a few scratches here and there on the space gray panel.
 
Last year's release was on Tuesday April 19. Upcoming Tuesday is April 18th, right after Easter. If it's going to happen, that would be the day. Fingers crossed!
 
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Since Apple made a requiem for the functions keys, the future in Apple terms should be touchbar...so they must come with touchbar if they take this seriously and if in the next macOS is taking this even further
[doublepost=1492262760][/doublepost]so they must make this, plus next apple pencil input into the trackpad with macOS to make easy markup in mail etc kaby lake, price cut by 100$
 
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Since Apple made a requiem of the functions keys, the future in Apple terms should be touchbar...so they must come with touchbar if they take this seriously and if in the next macOS is taking this even further
[doublepost=1492262760][/doublepost]so they must make this, plus next apple pencil input into the trackpad with macOS to make easy markup in mail etc kaby lake, price cut by 100$

You must not know Apple too well, if they add TB and essentially a new trackpad there is no way they lower the price, in fact they might raise it by $100
 
You must not know Apple too well, if they add TB and essentially a new trackpad there is no way they lower the price, in fact they might raise it by $100
not a chance...we already have MBP that has higher price because of the TB and redesign chassis. At macbook we will still have the same design but add the TB...so instead of lowering the price by 200 (as they did with the second gen retina MBP) they can lower the price by 100. In any case...they must lower the price for the next gen Macbook and Macbook pro this year
 
I don't see them lowering the price if they keep the 13" MacBook Air around for another year. That'll be the low-cost option to get people in the door, and they can up-sell them a MacBook with a better screen, smaller form factor, etc. And seeing as how the MBPs were priced last year, Apple doesn't seem too concerned about attracting (new) customers with lower prices for models they know will sell just fine regardless of a price-drop.

The TouchBar is something they promote alongside pro-software like video editing tools. Not exclusively, but it still has this pro-factor, and they don't want to give people an underwhelming experience with these kinds of tasks. It also requires a separate ARM chip, and consumers more power. So I don't expect to see that in the MacBook only half a year after introducing it in the MBP. At this point it's simply a way to get people to buy the Pro.
 
not a chance...we already have MBP that has higher price because of the TB and redesign chassis. At macbook we will still have the same design but add the TB...so instead of lowering the price by 200 (as they did with the second gen retina MBP) they can lower the price by 100. In any case...they must lower the price for the next gen Macbook and Macbook pro this year

Nope. Everything they've done points to maintaining the current price if nothing else. They'll likely do a spec bump, and keep the price the same, and keep the MBA around until the next MB overhaul, if they do anything at all. There's an outside chance they could lower the price and discontinue the MBA if they update the MBP this Fall.

But the MB price won't likely drop until they release a new model with either a 14" display, or TB3 support, or TouchBar or all of the above. Then they drop the price of the current model and discontinue the MBA.
 
They'll likely do a spec bump, and keep the price the same, and keep the MBA around until the next MB overhaul, if they do anything at all. There's an outside chance they could lower the price and discontinue the MBA if they update the MBP this Fall.

Interesting. My guess is it's going to be a 14" rMB that will trigger a price drop on the 12" rMB and the end of the 13" MBA. And even then it may be about a year after the introduction of a 14" rMB before the 13" MBA is dropped (similar to the 11" MBA being dropped well after the 12" rMB was released).

I still want to see a price drop on the rMB, and not just for my pocketbook :). I bought the 11" MBA six years ago because the Netbooks at the time were slow, fragile plastic builds. Yes, the MBA was about double the cost, but I thought it was worth it. Where I am the rMB is just looking overly expensive and a slow return to the prices of laptops in the late 90s. I like my Macs but at those prices I am considering a highly portable Windows machine for presentations.

The big question is, assuming there will be a 14" rMB, when will it be released? I'm trying to use the first-gen MBA to second-gen MBA (i.e. the current body) as a ruler, but feel like the larger rMB would be more likely to be released next year.

Why do you say that an updated MBP would cause the MBA to be discontinued? I realize that the two lines may eventually merge, but for the moment I think Apple would like to position the rMB as the entry level notebook and the MBP as the high-end model.
 
Are you speculating, assuming and educationally guessing?

Because I will take that to the heart, Lol

It's part educational guess and part hoping and wishing lol
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Interesting. My guess is it's going to be a 14" rMB that will trigger a price drop on the 12" rMB and the end of the 13" MBA. And even then it may be about a year after the introduction of a 14" rMB before the 13" MBA is dropped (similar to the 11" MBA being dropped well after the 12" rMB was released).

I still want to see a price drop on the rMB, and not just for my pocketbook :). I bought the 11" MBA six years ago because the Netbooks at the time were slow, fragile plastic builds. Yes, the MBA was about double the cost, but I thought it was worth it. Where I am the rMB is just looking overly expensive and a slow return to the prices of laptops in the late 90s. I like my Macs but at those prices I am considering a highly portable Windows machine for presentations.

The big question is, assuming there will be a 14" rMB, when will it be released? I'm trying to use the first-gen MBA to second-gen MBA (i.e. the current body) as a ruler, but feel like the larger rMB would be more likely to be released next year.

Why do you say that an updated MBP would cause the MBA to be discontinued? I realize that the two lines may eventually merge, but for the moment I think Apple would like to position the rMB as the entry level notebook and the MBP as the high-end model.

I don't know if I can handle the release of a 14" MacBook, I would have to pick myself up after passing out from sheer joy and muster the energy to walk to an Apple Store and throw my credit card at the nearest employee
 
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