Thieves are not smart.But why? It becomes useless as soon as it’s locked to the first Apple ID?
The Airplane radio wave thing is a myth.Wonder if Airlines require the ultra-wide band to be turned of for security reasons? Thinking about the radiowaves send out of 50 Airtags tagged to a plane 30000 ft in the air...
The conversion from imperial to metric was an EU directive. This made perfect sense in many markets in order to allow manufacturing to be standardised across EU member states. This way, any given state can manufacture items for use in any other member state.Yea - I lived in the UK for a couple years and noticed this stupidity. It's literally like they were well on their way to metric conversion and then just ran out of money, at which point everything stopped - indefinitely!
It is indeed a very interesting point... and there's probably something buried in the Ts&Cs somewhere. However, I would assume that if your phone detects a lost AirTag, it will simply relay the GPS coordinates to Apple. That's probably only a couple of K of data, if that. It would have to rely on your iPhone having data services enabled, as well as location services, otherwise it couldn't work (as far as I can see), so if you're constantly finding lost AirTags, it could cost you, but if you find one per month, and have xGB of data usage, I can't see that you're going to notice. But... they must tell us somewhere, same as they probably also tell us that we're sending that data to Apple anyway if we have "Find My" switched on at all!That’s a very interesting point. With all of their emphasis on privacy and security you could construe that this is a breach of someone’s trust if it’s not clearly pointed out to them when they get an Apple device. And shouldn’t users be compensated for the packet usage? At minimum there should be notification and an opt out mechanism from this de facto network.
I think it will eventually be a bigger hairball then just assumptions or deeply buried line items in their book like agreements, simply because it has evolved from a “Find My” to “Find Everyones” network which requires much more explicit transparency. “Find My Mac” never relied on other peoples phones…It is indeed a very interesting point... and there's probably something buried in the Ts&Cs somewhere. However, I would assume that if your phone detects a lost AirTag, it will simply relay the GPS coordinates to Apple. That's probably only a couple of K of data, if that. It would have to rely on your iPhone having data services enabled, as well as location services, otherwise it couldn't work (as far as I can see), so if you're constantly finding lost AirTags, it could cost you, but if you find one per month, and have xGB of data usage, I can't see that you're going to notice. But... they must tell us somewhere, same as they probably also tell us that we're sending that data to Apple anyway if we have "Find My" switched on at all!
I like your decision tree, something that Apple should visualize to clear confusion around this. There are some aspects of the tree that I'd like to call out:Unless you have a personal valet carrying your luggage for extended periods of time, the anti-stalking feature won't kick in. These this the decision tree for an AirTag:
________ Moving with you more or less?
_______ yes _______ _______ _____ no
_______ / _______ ________ _______ \
____ no alarm _______ _______ __ stationary?
_______ _______ _______ _____ yes_______ no
_______ _______ _______ _____ / _________ \
_______ _______ _______ __no alarm_____ follows other iPhone closely for > x hours?
_______ _______ _______ _______ _____ yes _______ _______ ________ _______ no
_______ _______ _______ _______ _____ /_______ _______ ________ _______ ____\
_______ _______ _______ _______ stalking alarm_______ ________ ____ separated from you for >3 days
_______ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ ________ _______ yes_______ _______ _______ no
_______ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ ________ _______ /_______ _______ _______ ___\
_______ _______ _______ _______ _______ _______ ________ ____ beeping _______ ____________ no alarm
One can inverse the last two questions with the same end result. In the checked baggage scenario the third question simply will be answered with a No as no single baggage handler will be close enough for long enough. We don’t know (yet) what exactly the x in ‘x hours’ is. But it is definitely much shorter than 72 but likely at least 1. And this can be a multiple criteria decision, eg, if following very closely for more than 30 min (eg, phone and tracker directly on the person or in the same bag) or if following more loosely for more than 2 h.
I think is extremely unlikely that the stalking alarm is triggered in the airplane scenario. The luggage with the tracker will simply be too far away from any passengers or crew. Remember this is Bluetooth, its signal doesn’t travel that far and Apple can tune the alarm such that only relatively close proximity triggers it.* On an airplane, a checked bag is of course moving but then so are you and hopefully that just falls into the left most branch and no alarms are triggered. If that checked bag gets put onto another plane, as numerous lost bags can attest to, then depending on x such a bag could trigger a stalking alarm and/or beeping depending on the proximity of iOS devices to the checked bag at various times.
Let me type through this scenario: your checked bag goes to LAX instead of JFK where you're headed. In that case, the bag will ultimately reach LAX, get pulled off the plane and then sit in a lost bags area at/near LAX. Because the bag is stationary after that, no alarm of any kind should trigger whether there are nearby iPhones or not. If someone walks off with the bag, then the movement scenarios take over. I suppose the AirTags have some time threshold that define what "stationary" means. What are the conditions, if any, where a lost bag starts beeping after 3 days?I think is extremely unlikely that the stalking alarm is triggered in the airplane scenario. The luggage with the tracker will simply be too far away from any passengers or crew. Remember this is Bluetooth, its signal doesn’t travel that far and Apple can tune the alarm such that only relatively close proximity triggers it.
Thanks for that. Would love to see more anecdotes around travel use. While there may be technical reasons for why the bag carousel scenario did not work for the author, that's not what I was expecting. The other airport scenarios do add value though.Here is an article about using AirTags on luggage.
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Review: using Apple’s AirTag for tracking checked luggage
Could Apple’s AirTags be the hottest travel accessory since noise-cancelling headphones? We headed to the airport to find out.www.executivetraveller.com
This article is good - to find your luggage outside of a carousel - but does not go over the different scenarios of actual travel and the "beeping' issue.Here is an article about using AirTags on luggage.
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Review: using Apple’s AirTag for tracking checked luggage
Could Apple’s AirTags be the hottest travel accessory since noise-cancelling headphones? We headed to the airport to find out.www.executivetraveller.com
No, the Airtag will not know, but the phones do, and will shut off the UWB feature (on themselves). Thus, you won’t be able to “precision-find” your Airtag. Regular locating will still work via bluetooth though… And NFC identification of a lost Airtag as well.How would that work though? Does the airtag know which country it’s in?
Presumably that can be controlled via the AirTags asking first the iPhone via Bluetooth whether it is ok to switch on the UWB radio.No, the Airtag will not know, but the phones do, and will shut off the UWB feature (on themselves). Thus, you won’t be able to “precision-find” your Airtag. Regular locating will still work via bluetooth though… And NFC identification of a lost Airtag as well.
What beeping issue? How many travel for three days straight without seeing their luggage.This article is good - to find your luggage outside of a carousel - but does not go over the different scenarios of actual travel and the "beeping' issue.
Now it won’t, how many times does it have to be repeated that the beeping only starts after three days of separation (plus movement after those three days)?So many questions with AirTags, so few answers... especially around the tagging a luggage or carry-on.
My wife is traveling as we speak and she has an Airtag in her carry-on. I was starting to think about the whole situation and remembered that an AirTag will beep if in proximity of ANOTHER phone than hers, which will invariably happen if she's zealous about turning Airplane mode on and the person behind her does not.
You’ve answered your own question already, see bolded part.Let me type through this scenario: your checked bag goes to LAX instead of JFK where you're headed. In that case, the bag will ultimately reach LAX, get pulled off the plane and then sit in a lost bags area at/near LAX. Because the bag is stationary after that, no alarm of any kind should trigger whether there are nearby iPhones or not. If someone walks off with the bag, then the movement scenarios take over. I suppose the AirTags have some time threshold that define what "stationary" means. What are the conditions, if any, where a lost bag starts beeping after 3 days?
Like France? Don't think about bring anything valuable on you in Paris.You don't need to live your life in fear of thieves, especially given that you can hide these in the base of a bag or just not visit one of the few countries there thieves are prevalent.