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In my country, for the price of the 256GB iPhone 14 Plus on sale, I can now get a 512GB S23 Ultra. The price discrepancy of Apple stuff is hilarious.

Markets are pretty good at setting prices based on actual consumer demand. The fact that 512 and 23 are larger numbers than 256 and 14 are irrelevant to asking price. Ditto for GB benchmarks, megapixels, mm telephoto, and other spec sheet items that forums love to compare because they can. I think Samsung and Google make great phones and if Android is your thing you can’t go wrong.
 
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It could be even cheaper in the big picture after all. You have a wildly more predictable supply chain without geopolitical tension nonsense. You have a process you can control and doesn't depend on the whims of tricky foreign goverments.
What about when unions are organized? As a highly skilled manufacturing facility, they can & will stop Apple in it’s tracks. At least foreign governments can be greased.
 
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Yea, and what Apple is actually doing in AI? Cook doesn't even say anything concrete.
Meanwhile, we have Microsoft investing heavily in ChatGPT. Cook's answer seem like an MBA consultant answer, fluff but nothing concrete.
Maybe Ads that more intelligently follow you from service to service. :eek:
 
Markets are pretty good at setting prices based on actual consumer demand. The fact that 512 and 23 are larger numbers than 256 and 14 are irrelevant to asking price. Ditto for GB benchmarks, megapixels, mm telephoto, and other spec sheet items that forums love to compare because they can. I think Samsung and Google make great phones and if Android is your thing you can’t go wrong.
The marketshare speaks for itself. Apple marketshare in many markets like my country is paltry thanks to their overly marked up prices beyond their original intended positioning. Considering we are the largest market in SE Asia, that's quite alarming for a company like Apple. If we had close to US prices, you can bet more people will buy Apple products without hesitations.

Apple priced the 2022 SE higher than the iPhone 11 in my country. That shows you how messed up their pricing is here, screwing up their own price segmentations and lineup.
 
Yeah. I chuckled when I read that. Apple talking highly about AI is like a bad joke considering how bad still a decade old Siri is. It's like what AI are they talking about?
Tim directly answered your question. Crash detection and EKG. I think with health related data, there is a lot you can do to recognize things in the data.

The next area is user interface. If you treat UI as a language, you have things like pronouns in language and I think the idea of the word "it" can be used in a UI gesture language.

Then when you have VR or AR glasses, AI can recognize things in the camera or create things not in the camera. Basically change or filter reality in some useful or entertaining way.

Imagine a FaceTime with you friend or relative where you both can decide to meet in some far away place. Or if you are selling a house, walk around with the customer and point things out.

It's endless as he said.
 
Dropping support of intel macs soon is not surprising. They dropped PPC support very quickly after intel transition. They will probably do the same, considering they have transitioned everything (including the mac mini) on the consumer end. The only one remaining is the mac Pro, but for practical purposes, it has been superseded by the mac Studio.

I doubt Apple will bother with LTS version of macOS. They have never done so. Many macs have quite short software support (eg the first intel macs). Apple will simply move.
Yep. Apple does not do LTS. PPC to Intel was fast and hard, one OS release before being dropped. As was the drop of 32bit Intel systems, they got 2 OS X releases. Ventura's savage cutoffs were no surprise and macOS 14 being Apple Silicon only when it is revealed in a few months at WWDC should not be either. At least alternative Operating Systems are a lot more accessible today than in the past, and the communities dedicated to maintaining old hardware/software compatibility are much more prevalent.
 
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Skillful dodge on consumers not being so interested in the iPhone 14, Mr Cook. Hubris is on point.
Well, there's no comparison to check his claim. Eg, we can only check his claim if there's an alternate universe where there was no supply chain shortages and no delays on the 14 Pro models.

Considering the 14 Pro models being sold out even in my country (regardless of their outrageous pricing), I tend to believe what Tim said about this might have some weight. Apple's brand power is really strong, and many people are willing to pay up to have that Apple logo. Status symbol in regions like Asia is no joke.
 
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seems to me  is the only company that can release a product
that works
that is easy to set up
that works over 10 years
that has competent tech support.
that has great earning results
in 2023

I have a "nice" new bike story I purchased today.....

LOL.. You did NOT say competent tech support. hahaha
 
In the light of the global pandemic and China's lockdowns, at the current climate, it can actually be more economical to have manufacturing in the US. Having your supply chains moving is definitely better than not at all (ie the lockdowns). Opportunity cost.
The US doesnt have the work force that china has though. We have the machines but we dont have the people (trained). If we can accomplish that we might have something.
 
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The US doesnt have the work force that china has though. We have the machines but we dont have the people (trained). If we can accomplish that we might have something.
Correct. I'm guessing the TSMC plant will be mostly robotics with high level workforce from China/Taiwan. There won't be a full iPhone assembly factory in the US anytime soon.
 
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But you still upgraded anyway... That's the magic of Apple. :D
People buy iPhones not because they need a phone, it's because they want the Apple brand. Thus bad economic situations won't affect luxury companies like Apple that badly. This report might "look bad" for Apple, but when we look at the rest of Apple's competitors, Apple is still doing extremely well considering what's going on around the world.
Totally agree, but Apple is not a true luxury company. They are very good at luxury marketing and positioning, but let's not forget their attempt at an actual Luxury product: Apple Watch Edition. It failed twice.

We're coming to the end of a huge period of uninterrupted economic growth that has enabled a lot of "luxury" marketing success to mainstream consumers of shiny goods. What happens to the Influencer economy when that bottom falls out and more and more followers can truly no longer afford to keep up and are forced to be practical with their spending? How many iPhone Pro/Max sales does it take for Apple to keep the product line alive?

The next year is going to be rather interesting to watch, especially if the economic slow-down turns into a true recession. Tech layoffs are what is making the news, but an unsettling number of people I know have started 2023 with a 15-20% pay cut, and eggs are not the only essentials with a noticeable uptick in price. A lot of people right now are much more sensitive to the fact they are getting less and less from their status products. When/how does a company like Apple shift its marketing?
 
Yea, and what Apple is actually doing in AI? Cook doesn't even say anything concrete.
Meanwhile, we have Microsoft investing heavily in ChatGPT. Cook's answer seem like an MBA consultant answer, fluff but nothing concrete.
Pretty sure “Lipstick on a Pig 101” is a required course in all modern MBA programs.
 
seems to me  is the only company that can release a product
that works
that is easy to set up
that works over 10 years
that has competent tech support.
that has great earning results
in 2023

I have a "nice" new bike story I purchased today.....
If the product works, is easy to set up, and works over 10 years, then why do you need tech support? :confused: That doesn't add up
 
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Yeah. I chuckled when I read that. Apple talking highly about AI is like a bad joke considering how bad still a decade old Siri is. It's like what AI are they talking about?
AI in photography for long exposures, fall detection, spotting health trends, and other useful tech besides a voice assistant to keep lonely people company.
 
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