What were they thinking?

Discussion in 'Mac Pro' started by Macpropro80, Mar 3, 2009.

  1. Macpropro80 macrumors 6502

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    Anyone think "WTF" when they saw the new mac pro's today? I mean Come on, Mini-Display ports? Higher Price? No Firewire 400 AT ALL? Come on! We are professional users not 6th grade girls who use there mac books for facebook! I want 2 Dual-Link DVI ports on my graphic cards, that should be a given! I am happy that I have the early 2008 mac pro. I thought I would be upset that the upgrade made mine obsolete, but it trued out to be the opposite! I am glad I own the "old" mac pro. I hate to think that apple gave up on us "pro" users just so some snotty middle schoolers could easily plug there mac book into a 24inch display! This is an outrage! Steve jobs leaves for 2 months and the whole company already goes to hell!
     
  2. Zyniker macrumors 6502

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    Do you honestly believe that these upgrades were in the works for less time than Steve Jobs has been gone from Apple? :rolleyes:
     
  3. Macpropro80 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I believe steve wouldn't have let the graphic card go through without dual DVI. Did we already go through this with the G5's and proprietary graphic ports?
     
  4. thedarkhorse macrumors 6502a

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    yeah the "$300 price drop" was a blatant lie too, as far as I know a 4 core mac pro yesterday was available for $2199.
     
  5. bigjnyc macrumors 603

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    I'm sure this update has been in the works since a week after the last updates came out. Beleive me out or not Steve Jobs has the final say on any changes.
     
  6. Macpropro80 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Then the medicine steve is on is effecting the final product, Am i the only one who is a little pissed over the new pros?
     
  7. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    These updates are lame.

    Give me a 2.66 Octo Nehalem for $3,000 and you got a deal.
     
  8. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Professionals prefer to use 14 year old technology? (FW 400)

    No wonder the industry sucks at moving on.
     
  9. Macpropro80 thread starter macrumors 6502

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    well my professional cameras use fw 400 so..... yes
     
  10. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    And 800 is SO bad for you because? Or is the $5 adaptor just too much?

    I dont get WHY 400 is STILL the standard, its ridiculous at this point.
     
  11. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    Yes I use old XLR Cables, BNC Cables, RCA's.

    Old lights, old Microphones.


    Pros prefer rugged stuff that lasts.

    Least most Video Pros I know.
     
  12. bigjnyc macrumors 603

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    At least it looks pretty and you can upgrade it easily with all the cute little compartments pulling out :D They figured that as long as they can distract consumers with looks they can get away with charging lots of money for mediocre parts and functionality. This strategy obviously didn't work on you.
    welcome to :apple:
     
  13. jjahshik32 macrumors 603

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    I think people are thinking 2.26ghz[​IMG] 2.8ghz (previous gen) so they look at it being a very bad deal.

    But just wait until you actually see the real world benchmarking of the 2.26ghz which will be on par to the 3.2ghz of last gen which cost what around $5000.
     
  14. Macpropro80 thread starter macrumors 6502

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  15. milk242 macrumors 6502a

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    Why can't apple just put a freaking normal size displayport on the graphics card, its like they are avoiding all possibilities of making a displayport to mini displayport cable.
     
  16. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Can anyone tell me if when they are in the market for new gear, will they be buying FW 400 or 800?
     
  17. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    For video? Firewire 400 my friend.


    For other stuff? E-sata



    Nope don't need Firewire 800 really.
     
  18. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Can I ask why not 800? Is it too pricey? Or is that part of the industry absolutly refusing to get up to date? If its that, wheres the outrage?
     
  19. nick9191 macrumors 68040

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    The new model is a good deal as far as I'm concerned.

    Intel charges based on performance, not clock speed or cores. The new 2.66 Quad will beat the old 2008 2.8 Octo. This is a given since the consumer variant of this Xeon beat the old Mac Pro. Not bad for $300 less.

    Yes you heard me right, 4 core 2.66 beats 8 core 2.8.

    As for Firewire 400, they should have dropped it 6 years ago when Firewire 800 came out. Adapters cost $5. Or buy a Firewire 400 PCI-E card.

    Dual Link DVI? Yes I guess there should be two, but Apple have always mercilessly dropped older tech since they started, if you don't like it don't buy Apple, or at least expect it.
     
  20. wwooden macrumors 68000

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    Can't you just buy a PCI card that has firewire ports on it?

    I also feel like we are falling back into the "Megahertz myth" of 10 years ago. People only see the numbers and if it is not bigger, it must be worse. As has been shown, these new processors are far more powerful at a lower clock speed.
     
  21. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    Almost all Pro-Video cameras use Firewire 400.

    Newer cameras records on SXS or P2 Cards which use notebook PCIMIA and Express Card slots.

    Nothing really uses Firewire 800 except Hard Drives, but E-Sata is better.
     
  22. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    Why no outrage over the 14 year old technology? Thats ANCIENT. Or is it just some sort of double standard that only the computer market has to have the latest and "greatest".
     
  23. nanofrog macrumors G4

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    In comparison (2.26 Xeon E5520), yes, I agree, it should be approximately equal to the 2.8 E5462, but not the 3.2 Harpertown variant, which is how I interpreted another of your posts.

    If it's a typo, or I misread, I apologize, but I just can't see 2.26 as an equivalent to the '08 MP @ 3.2GHz, despite the performance causing direct 1:1 clock comparisons moot. ;)
     
  24. Chaos123x macrumors 68000

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    For DV and HDV Firewire 400 is fine.

    For other formats they use the notebook cards.

    But grabbing a 800-400 is not that big of a deal, it would be nice to have one 400 plug on the front though.
     
  25. NT1440 macrumors G4

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    B-b-but "fine" isnt good enough, you HAVE to have the LATEST and GREATEST or its complete crap!

    I think you guys get what I'm trying to say.
     

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