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So, after a few weeks with my Ultra, I’m quite happy. For me, at least, it’s solved all the shortcomings of my old S4 and added some nice bonus features on top. It’s even good enough as a basic smartphone phone that I’m keeping my Xs in my backpack, not my pocket, and I’m not afraid to leave the Xs behind altogether.

I expect to keep the Ultra at least as long as I had the S4 (my first Apple Watch, which I also bought on release day). Considering how indestructible this thing is, I could well see keeping it a lot, lot longer.

Part of that vision … well, I have a difficult time imagining what would make me want an updated watch before this Ultra somehow gives up the ghost. I can think of all sorts of “Gee, that’d be nice” features, but “must-have” is a stretch.

Most obvious, of course, would be blood pressure and glucose monitoring. But I don’t currently have any problems with either; they’d be like the EKG: a cool feature, to be sure, but not likely to change my life. (Of course, for the millions who do suffer from hypertension and / or diabetes, such features could be truly life-altering, if not life-saving!)

I’m sure we’ll eventually see a Dick Tracy style camera under the display that permits video calls. Again, cool … but, aside from Zoom meetings where my camera is almost always turned off, I’m not using video calls anywhere else (despite doing so being trivial). It’d presumably be great for, say, an engineer at a construction site in an awkward location wanting quick feedback from the architect, but I’m neither of those people.

Of course, I wouldn’t say, “no,” to a longer-lasting battery, but I’m currently wearing the Ultra for 23 1/2 hours a day and rarely going below 35% charge (or above 85%), so that wouldn’t be enough in and of itself, either. And similar reasoning applies to the rest of the base features: improvements would be welcome, but it’s already plenty good enough. Like, would making the always-on display be always full-power be that much of an improvement? How much more is there to improve on the speakerphone? The display bezels only have half a millimeter or so they could shrink. And so on.

And many of the minor improvements I’d most like to see — such as Backtrack overlaid over a map, or a full-featured interface to the already-darned-good WebKit engine — would be pure software, hopefully coming with a not-terribly-distant OS update.

How ’bout the rest of all y’all?

Cheers,

b&
 
I’m trying Ultra out while my series 4 is sent for repair. To me, series 4 is such an amazing watch that it outlasts my expectations for an Apple Watch for the past 4 years, except the battery life and curved screen.

So far, I haven’t found any major issue that warrants improvements, except the way AOD works. More often than not, I find myself unable to determine if the screen is active or not at a glance, because apple preserves colour and most of my watch faces when turning down the refresh rate.

Something else I also want to know is the battery life. Apple advertises 2 day battery life, which is a massive improvement over typical 18-hour battery life, which usually lasts me a full night and most of my day before needing to recharge. So far one day has passed and battery sits at 55%. I’ll have a few more days to test out.

Given enough time, I think I might be able to find where Apple Watch ultra should improve to be better, but for now, I don’t think I can find too many of them.
 
Indeed it is. Right now probably the best product apple has released in 2022. I've gotten MBAM2/APP2's/14PM/Ultra.
I'm very happy with my Mac Studio + Display but the AWU sparked more joy out of the box! It almost made me happy that I broke my SE. And I believe it was my upgrade to iPhone 14P that got me a $120 discount on the watch, so I'm glad I got that too-- and it was definitely a worthwhile upgrade from XS. But coming into 2022 I was only planning on replacing my 2012 iMac.
 
It just goes to show what Apple can do when they put their mind to it. It’s a terrific watch. I would like to see the bezels reduce next year and perhaps more variety in colours plus if it could do video calls as well then that would be amazing
 
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Usually wear a biggish Seiko diver and I prefer bigger watches, never suited the normal Apple Watch.

Going forward I guess better battery life and increase the screen size would want me to upgrade.
 
I'm very happy with my Mac Studio + Display but the AWU sparked more joy out of the box! It almost made me happy that I broke my SE. And I believe it was my upgrade to iPhone 14P that got me a $120 discount on the watch, so I'm glad I got that too-- and it was definitely a worthwhile upgrade from XS. But coming into 2022 I was only planning on replacing my 2012 iMac.
Right?

I’m sure the 14 would be a big upgrade for me from my XS … but the Ultra has taken away most of the impulse I otherwise would have had to upgrade the XS.

Thanks to the Ultra being a darned-decent basic communications device, I’m increasingly not carrying the XS in my pocket with me everywhere I go; it’s either in the backpack or left behind altogether. So my next phone will be more of a small-tablet-type device, a combination e-book and camera. And the XS, though far from ideal for such things, is plenty “good enough” for that for the time being. At the very least, I can certainly wait for USB-C.

b&
 
It would be nice if the Apple Fitness, Apple Watch app and health app (it is available but no readout of workouts) integrated with iPad and Mac Book, and have a browser account to display details of ones workout.
 
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It would be nice if the Apple Fitness, Apple Watch app and health app (it is available but no readout of workouts) integrated with iPad and Mac Book, and have a browser account to display details of ones workout.
Totally with you on that! I’d even be fine with the Watch remaining tied to a phone, just with cross-platform cloud-synced versions of the apps and as much / little writing / update features as makes sense. Like, it probably doesn’t make sense to do a workout with a Mac, but why not be able to see everything full-screen, maybe even have a data export utility?

But I think we can reasonably hope for that to be a software update, rather than require new hardware for the Ultra.

b&
 
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Totally with you on that! I’d even be fine with the Watch remaining tied to a phone, just with cross-platform cloud-synced versions of the apps and as much / little writing / update features as makes sense. Like, it probably doesn’t make sense to do a workout with a Mac, but why not be able to see everything full-screen, maybe even have a data export utility?

But I think we can reasonably hope for that to be a software update, rather than require new hardware for the Ultra.

b&
Yes, that's what I meant, only you put it together much better than me, my friend. Perfect. I have an Ultra and a Garmin Fenix 7, I can see much more from the Garmin on my Mac Book Air and iPad than I can from my Ultra.

I think it is still in it's infancy and the cloud-synced version will be coming.
 
I've had my Ultra for just under a month. It's been the best Apple Watch I've owned, hands down (I had the S0, S3, and S6 previously).

I don't think I'll be upgrading from this watch for at least four or five years, by which time I hope it has the following:
  • More colour options - black especially
  • Smaller display bezel
  • Faster/more efficient SoC (Apple has been skating by on the same one since the Series 6)
  • An actually useful (for men) body temperature sensor
  • Improved accelerometer/gyroscope to track things like weight reps/sets
  • Emergency satellite calling like the iPhone 14
I'm not at all interested in a front-facing FaceTime camera. I think blood glucose monitoring tech on an Apple Watch is at least five years away — probably more like 10, if ever. And I doubt blood pressure monitoring would work all that well without a dedicated band for it or something like that; even then, it might not be all that accurate.

Honestly, most of the improvements I'd like to see are on the software side.
  • Provide users with a way to get offline maps other than "just download Workoutdoors if that's what you want"
  • More options for what to do with the Action button
  • Ability to use other apps on the Watch when I'm in a phone call (seriously, why can't we do this?)
  • Ability to create custom workouts on my iPhone and have them sync to my Watch
  • Ability to track AirTags with that "hot/cold" UI that newer iPhones can use
  • Make Siri suck less. It's mostly unobjectionable on the Watch compared to the utter flustercuck that it is on Homepod, but it could still be better.
  • A "health score" or some other kind of comprehensive overview of my daily health — bringing in data like resting heart rate, HRV, sleep cycles, body temperature, blood oxygen saturation etc — to give me a broad picture of my current health and health trends over time.

    They can put a "for informational purposes, talk to your doctor" disclaimer on it if they want, but something as simple as, "It looks like you're at 6/10 readiness score today — your body temperature is slightly elevated from baseline — you may experience symptoms of illness soon" or "Your resting heart rate is trending downward over the past six weeks — it looks like your cardio workouts may be paying off!" would be great.
 
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So, after a few weeks with my Ultra, I’m quite happy. For me, at least, it’s solved all the shortcomings of my old S4 and added some nice bonus features on top. It’s even good enough as a basic smartphone phone that I’m keeping my Xs in my backpack, not my pocket, and I’m not afraid to leave the Xs behind altogether.

I expect to keep the Ultra at least as long as I had the S4 (my first Apple Watch, which I also bought on release day). Considering how indestructible this thing is, I could well see keeping it a lot, lot longer.

Part of that vision … well, I have a difficult time imagining what would make me want an updated watch before this Ultra somehow gives up the ghost. I can think of all sorts of “Gee, that’d be nice” features, but “must-have” is a stretch.

Most obvious, of course, would be blood pressure and glucose monitoring. But I don’t currently have any problems with either; they’d be like the EKG: a cool feature, to be sure, but not likely to change my life. (Of course, for the millions who do suffer from hypertension and / or diabetes, such features could be truly life-altering, if not life-saving!)

I’m sure we’ll eventually see a Dick Tracy style camera under the display that permits video calls. Again, cool … but, aside from Zoom meetings where my camera is almost always turned off, I’m not using video calls anywhere else (despite doing so being trivial). It’d presumably be great for, say, an engineer at a construction site in an awkward location wanting quick feedback from the architect, but I’m neither of those people.

Of course, I wouldn’t say, “no,” to a longer-lasting battery, but I’m currently wearing the Ultra for 23 1/2 hours a day and rarely going below 35% charge (or above 85%), so that wouldn’t be enough in and of itself, either. And similar reasoning applies to the rest of the base features: improvements would be welcome, but it’s already plenty good enough. Like, would making the always-on display be always full-power be that much of an improvement? How much more is there to improve on the speakerphone? The display bezels only have half a millimeter or so they could shrink. And so on.

And many of the minor improvements I’d most like to see — such as Backtrack overlaid over a map, or a full-featured interface to the already-darned-good WebKit engine — would be pure software, hopefully coming with a not-terribly-distant OS update.

How ’bout the rest of all y’all?

Cheers,

b&

I was disappointed that Apple dropped the SBTi series and ordered the Ultra instead. I use both, and wear one or the other everyday. The only reason I ordered the Ultra was because Apple‘s choice were limited to aluminum or stainless!

I fine myself wearing my series 7 SBTi more than the Ultra and I can already see that we will be parting company.
 
i got it because ceramic wasn’t available. White ceramic comes around the ultra is yesterdays news
 
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It took until the Series 5 to convince me enough to buy an Apple Watch at all. If the Ultra has not come along I would still be sporting my 5 as year-on-year watch updates are so minimal that there has been nothing on 6, 7 and now 8 to tempt me.
I am liking my Ultra a lot, but I can't imagine that it will have an upgrade path distinct from the ordinary versions in terms of pace of innovation, so I'm thinking by the time of the 4th or 5th iteration I might be ready for the next one - assuming the UK pound doesn't continue to crash in value and all Apple products become wholly unaffordable.
 
I can't think of anything to upgarde from the Ultra at this point. Well, blood glucose monitor would be the thing to make me upgrade from it.
 
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Usually wear a biggish Seiko diver and I prefer bigger watches, never suited the normal Apple Watch.

Going forward I guess better battery life and increase the screen size would want me to upgrade.
To piggyback on this, and I know this may be blasphemy, but I want an AWU 2 that's even bigger. Go to 51mm, increase battery life, narrow the bezels and keep iterating.
 
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time, 3-4 years. Not upgrading my watch for small changes and year to year its not worth it for something that has limited use.
 
I just got my ultra, so I wouldn’t know for sure just yet. That said better battery life would still be a factor, and maybe a slimmer design as well, but I actually like the beefier design, so yeah I dunno yet lol. It could be interesting if Solar charging, or another type of charging was implemented too. Maybe new sensors? I would love for the Watch to be able to tell the ambient temperature.

I upgraded from a S4 too, and expect to keep it for at least the same length of time.
 
To piggyback on this, and I know this may be blasphemy, but I want an AWU 2 that's even bigger. Go to 51mm, increase battery life, narrow the bezels and keep iterating.
Interesting!

I personally have zero interest in anything bigger; aside from how high it stands off my wrist, I feel like the size is perfect for me.

But my wrist is at the small range of normal for men, so it’s not hard to imagine people at the other end wanting something even bigger.

But all the griping about how this watch is somehow outrageously huge … never occurred to me that, yes, for some, it’s still undersized.

Be interesting to see if Apple ever expands further that direction.

b&
 
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I've had my Ultra for just under a month. It's been the best Apple Watch I've owned, hands down (I had the S0, S3, and S6 previously).

I don't think I'll be upgrading from this watch for at least four or five years, by which time I hope it has the following:
  • More colour options - black especially
  • Smaller display bezel
  • Faster/more efficient SoC (Apple has been skating by on the same one since the Series 6)
  • An actually useful (for men) body temperature sensor
  • Improved accelerometer/gyroscope to track things like weight reps/sets
  • Emergency satellite calling like the iPhone 14
I'm not at all interested in a front-facing FaceTime camera. I think blood glucose monitoring tech on an Apple Watch is at least five years away — probably more like 10, if ever. And I doubt blood pressure monitoring would work all that well without a dedicated band for it or something like that; even then, it might not be all that accurate.

Honestly, most of the improvements I'd like to see are on the software side.
  • Provide users with a way to get offline maps other than "just download Workoutdoors if that's what you want"
  • More options for what to do with the Action button
  • Ability to use other apps on the Watch when I'm in a phone call (seriously, why can't we do this?)
  • Ability to create custom workouts on my iPhone and have them sync to my Watch
  • Ability to track AirTags with that "hot/cold" UI that newer iPhones can use
  • Make Siri suck less. It's mostly unobjectionable on the Watch compared to the utter flustercuck that it is on Homepod, but it could still be better.
  • A "health score" or some other kind of comprehensive overview of my daily health — bringing in data like resting heart rate, HRV, sleep cycles, body temperature, blood oxygen saturation etc — to give me a broad picture of my current health and health trends over time.

    They can put a "for informational purposes, talk to your doctor" disclaimer on it if they want, but something as simple as, "It looks like you're at 6/10 readiness score today — your body temperature is slightly elevated from baseline — you may experience symptoms of illness soon" or "Your resting heart rate is trending downward over the past six weeks — it looks like your cardio workouts may be paying off!" would be great.
That’s a great list.

I think I’d move the accelerometer/ compass feature to the software column. And add to it on-the-fly correction for local magnetic fields, which should be trivial to get from GPS.

I thought about the emergency satellite communications thing, too, but I don’t know about physical size limits on antenna design. Plus, the iPhones with that have to be held steady and pointed in a particular direction for some time … not sure how that would translate to the watch.

My understanding for blood pressure is that it would be from a proxy measurement of some sort, not a sphygmomanometer. Like an AI interpretation of an infrared measurement, possibly coupled with something acoustic. I’m sure the physics would work out, but it might need way more computational power than the watch currently sports, and / or much more theoretical model building.

Offline maps … why the heck doesn’t it automatically do a background load of at least road maps for a 100-mile radius whenever on the charger, and keep a cache of at least a gigabyte of the most recent map data?

And Backtrack should mean instant download of topological map data for a ten-mile radius, signal permitting. This doesn’t have to be high resolution, even! Enough to know if you go to the left or the right around the hill would do the trick. Even 1/10 mile resolution is probably “good enough.” (Plus, of course, the option to pre-load topological data for a planned middle-of-nowhere trek.)

I know some people like those one-number “health score” things, but I don’t see how the computer can do better than me just checking to see how I feel. If the score says I should be in top shape, but I don’t feel it, would it really be wise to push myself?

b&
 
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