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I keep hearing that a 12 inch MacAir will combine the portability of the 11" MacAir and the productivity of the 13" MacAir. I have an 11" MacAir. My wife has a 13" MacAir. Both are highly portable but saying that one allows more productivity than the other reads like a product from the fevered brain of an advertising copy writer.

Larger screens don't increase productivity, everything else equal?

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When (and not if) the AppleWatch fails ..it will either be the wake up call or the break up for Apple as it is now.
You mean like the Kin caused the break-up of Microsoft?

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No idea, I don't buy Samsung watches nor do I know what they look like. We are discussing Apple products in this thread and the Apple watch looks terrible.
As long as it looks much better than the competition, it can be viable.
 
I still use iPhoto, so they do have a product.

They have iPhoto and Aperture which they announced they will no longer support. iPhoto is not ideal for my workflow with the many raw images I have. I was using apps like Picasa and Adobe Bridge but they do not support my new camera's raw files (CR2), so instead of spending money on an EOL product like Aperture, I went with a third party app that has some future to it. A friend was using Photos on his tablet, but it was buggy and the workflow seemed half-baked. Hopefully Apple will better polish it when it is released in the Mac version but I am doubtful. If they do to Photos what they did to FCPX, then it is better I went with another app.
 
They have iPhoto and Aperture which they announced they will no longer support. iPhoto is not ideal for my workflow with the many raw images I have. I was using apps like Picasa and Adobe Bridge but they do not support my new camera's raw files (CR2), so instead of spending money on an EOL product like Aperture, I went with a third party app that has some future to it. A friend was using Photos on his tablet, but it was buggy and the workflow seemed half-baked. Hopefully Apple will better polish it when it is released in the Mac version but I am doubtful. If they do to Photos what they did to FCPX, then it is better I went with another app.

Good for you.
 
It's not just you. None of this excites me.
Why should it? Apple is all about giving customers what they want in a general sense they aren't out to satisfy your personal needs.
As long-time Apple fans and users we have to accept that, as much as they try to market otherwise, Apple doesn't have the soul of their early days.
This is complete baloney.
They are now every bit as much a Microsoft as they once claimed to despise. They are not outsiders and they don't think differently. They think only about money and how they can get more of it.
That is what companies do, they make money first and foremost. In any event your perspective is all screwed up here. People said much the same back in the Apple 2 era when the Apple 2 was one expensive 6502 based computer.
Tim Cook has got to go as head of Apple. I'm calling it now.
Obviously indicating you don't know what you are talking about. Consider for a moment what Apple has delivered under Cooks leadership. We are talking substantially improved products across the board. The only if being the Mini and that depends upon what you value in the Mini.
It was perhaps always a poisoned chalice to follow Jobs. I'm sure Steve did say to Cook not to think about what he would do, but that shouldn't extend to rubbishing the brand, its soul and identity. To be fair I think this already began during Jobs tenure as he gradually relinquished control and responsibility due to his ailing health.
You don't oer chance have a chalice in front of you right now do you? Because honestly there is no indication at all in your post that you are thinking with a clear mind.
A minor disclaimer that as a science grad with an engineer brother I have a seething disdain for financial or marketing types that think they know what's best for a company.
Sometimes they do sometimes they don't! Everybody, engineer or not, has made mistakes when running a company, it happens! However in this case here of Apple what mistakes have they made of significance with product launches?
In all modern workplaces the real innovators and workers have become subordinate to corporate management and this is very sad. It should be the other way around.
Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I work with many engineers and frankly many of them can't see ten feet in front of themselves much less see what is happening in their own industry. Sometimes you need a broader view of the world to successful direct a company or even a project within a company.
Accountants, lawyers, paper pushers and corporate nobodies should be subordinate to the real drive and soul of a company. Technical experts, engineers, programmers and scientists should be the ones calling the shots and rise to positions of management and power.
Actually in many companies they do just that. Let's not forget that Apple has some extremely talented people working directly under Cook with a wide array of skills.
Apple needs a technician, engineer or programmer as its CEO.
Yeah sure I can see a technician that couldn't manage more than a two year degree running Apple. I'd laugh at you but that isn't polite.
Someone who's willing to to tell investors and Wall Street to shove it when necessary. There is no evidence that Tim Cook is this person and lots to the contrary.

He has pretty much done so on a few occasions already. But beyond that a CEOS can only go so far with pissing off the owners of a company before he is replaced. Cook has done just the opposite in that he has made many shareholders very happy indeed.

Look at it this way, how many companies out there saw their OC sales increase during the market down turn? To actually increase PC sales during such hard times for the industry is in itself a big feather in Tims cap. Combine that with the continual success of the IOS line up and you would have to wonder why any investor would object to Apples current management.
 
Why should it? Apple is all about giving customers what they want in a general sense they aren't out to satisfy your personal needs.

This is complete baloney.

That is what companies do, they make money first and foremost. In any event your perspective is all screwed up here. People said much the same back in the Apple 2 era when the Apple 2 was one expensive 6502 based computer.

Obviously indicating you don't know what you are talking about. Consider for a moment what Apple has delivered under Cooks leadership. We are talking substantially improved products across the board. The only if being the Mini and that depends upon what you value in the Mini.

You don't oer chance have a chalice in front of you right now do you? Because honestly there is no indication at all in your post that you are thinking with a clear mind.

Sometimes they do sometimes they don't! Everybody, engineer or not, has made mistakes when running a company, it happens! However in this case here of Apple what mistakes have they made of significance with product launches?

Sometimes yes and sometimes no. I work with many engineers and frankly many of them can't see ten feet in front of themselves much less see what is happening in their own industry. Sometimes you need a broader view of the world to successful direct a company or even a project within a company.

Actually in many companies they do just that. Let's not forget that Apple has some extremely talented people working directly under Cook with a wide array of skills.

Yeah sure I can see a technician that couldn't manage more than a two year degree running Apple. I'd laugh at you but that isn't polite.


He has pretty much done so on a few occasions already. But beyond that a CEOS can only go so far with pissing off the owners of a company before he is replaced. Cook has done just the opposite in that he has made many shareholders very happy indeed.

Look at it this way, how many companies out there saw their OC sales increase during the market down turn? To actually increase PC sales during such hard times for the industry is in itself a big feather in Tims cap. Combine that with the continual success of the IOS line up and you would have to wonder why any investor would object to Apples current management.

Finally, someone with common sense has stepped in. :cool:
 
Also, I don't see my notebook mentioned in the article :rolleyes:.

/s

It's too bad that the Air 2 and the 6S will be released a year apart, because if the 6S gets upgrades like the Air 2, it'll be a beast. I'd rather update my iPhone and iPad in one year, with both being "longevity models," but whatever.
 
Couldn't agree more. Cook is great for profits and shareholders, terrible for creativity and innovation.
Baloney, consider:
  1. The "A" series processors
  2. Apple Pay
  3. the new Retina IMac
  4. the new iPad Air ( truly a major overhaul of the machine)
  5. Touch ID
  6. Mac Pro
  7. numerous advancements to both IOS and Mac OS (with the corresponding bugs)
  8. Apple Watch (still innovation even if you don't like it)
The list could go on for pages. The problem with all of the whiners in this thread is that just because you don't understand something (an apparent big problem here), don't use it or don't know about it doesn't mean it isn't innovation.

The common target here seems to be Apple Pay which if anybody had an inkling of what was done with Apple Pay would realize that it is a huge project for Apple filled with innovation. If you don't use it or don't understand it does not mean that it isn't innovation. Apple Pay is the definition of what innovation is. More importantly over the years it will become very important to Apples bottom line.

And please don't mention that silly watch.
Why not? You may never wear it and I probably won't either but to dismiss it as not being innovation is beyond silly.
The unveiling of the iPhone was an insane display of innovation. The watch felt the complete opposite. I still have no idea why I'm supposed to buy that thing.
Neither do I but that doesn't make it any less innovative. This is the problem with many in this thread you see something you don't use or want and dismiss the real innovation that the release puts forth. Sorry but it makes you look like a fool.
So I can have a baby, dumbed down version of what my phone already does? So I can be told to stand up every 30 minutes because it's healthy? This will be novel the first week, then what? Nobody is going to charge that thing daily only to never use it. Tim Cook is neither a visionary nor a risk taker. No reward without risk.
Actually Apple Watch is the very definition of taking a risk. It simply may be to early technology wise for the product who knows really. However when the day comes that they can put iPhones functionality in that watch it will be very impressive indeed and will graduate from a hobby to a significant part of Apples business.
His strategy for job security is to convert Apple into a mechanism of increasing share value even if it means suspending creativity in lieu of spec bumps and baby upgrades..
That is nonsense!
I hate when great things become all about the money. Everything turns safe and dull.
Have you taken a series look at the iPad Air 2 or the latest iPhones? They are the result of a company that is the exact opposite of what you describe. Really look at that new iPad where almost nothing was left untouched from the previous revision. It is hardly an example of a company playing safe.
 
You missed my point. What you are referring to are incremental innovations to existing devices. Indeed that is asked here a lot, but what Apple is also doing all the time. Look at the Retina iMac, iPhone 6 etc.

What most people here demand are disruptive innovations. I.e. innovations of the calibre of a whole new product category. And the likelihood of those appearing regular are very slim if you understand a little bit about business and market lifecycle.

No. What a lot of people would like to see is Apple at least follow through on some basic innovations that they should be able to handle with ease.

Like:

- App Store for Apple TV. So what if the cable companies are confounding their grand plans for TV; that doesn't stop them from adding the current box to the App Store. This was overdue four years ago. By now they just look like clueless bumbling fools that can't see the obvious.
- As others have posted here, where in the world is the 4k, TB2 Cinema Display?! It has been the obvious missing companion to the MacBook Pro Retina and the coffee can MacPro for a year and a half now, but nowhere to be seen. Plenty of TB2 hubs on the market, and everyone else has had 4k monitors for half the price of Cinema Display for a full product cycle. This is such an easy no brainer we've got to wonder if anybody is even showing up for work in Apple's monitor development office anymore.
-Multiple OS upgrade cycles since TB came out and since PCI expansion slots completely disappeared from Apple's product line and still OS/X can't handle GPU cards in external PCI boxes over TB?! This was the promised solution to removing internal PCI options from all Apple computers and is a couple years overdue now, which is even more absurd considering that it has been working just fine on Apple's own hardware when running Boot Camp with Windows from even a couple generations ago.

Just a few examples. Apple's product line up is already amazingly small and simple compared to comparably sized companies in all industries and they have more money than anyone else, yet we are supposed to believe they can't handle even simple developments like these examples by now, let alone in a timely manner for a company that is supposedly still innovative? Yeah right.

If current management is so overwhelmed by the iTurd-on-a-wrist-band development that they can't attend to the gaping holes in their core product families, then time for some new management.
 
the notebook line has gotten ungodly stale.

spare me the "intel is way too far behind on broadwell" speech, apple couldve updated many other things in the machines in the last year.
OK I will bite, what could they have updated? By the way they did update the Airs by lowering the price which is significant for many. In any event you imply that there was no product refreshes in 2014 when there obviously was. So apparently you have a worthless opinion here.

Oh and by the way yes Intel screwed up get over it.
apple used to do major refreshes every 8 months like clockwork with small processor speedbumps every four,
Oh really when was the last time we saw a speed bump after four months?
now its like apple doesnt do anything at all for over a year at a time and when they do, the updates arent great - how longs it been since we got a real screen upgrade, retina in 2012? you aint gonna see updated mbps until WWDC at the earliest, another GOOD six months away.
Yep! You know why though I N T E L that is why.
who would bother buying broadwell at that point anyway? may as well wait for skylake because broadwell will already be outdated by the time it drops.
In some cases this is true. In the case of the MBP's, Apple might be forced to wait for SkyLake if the latest rumors are true. Again I'm not sure why you are blaming Apple for Intels screw ups. Hell I'm in need of a laptop right now but im holding off in the hopes that Broadwell releases soon. I don't sit here blaming Apple though, I will save that for after Broadwell releases and Apple drags its feet pushing out new laptops.

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Completely agree. Starting to look like the most important thing they need to upgrade is the CEO.
The CEO is doing fine, he is making shareholders very happy while delivering bleeding edge new products.
I don't like to make predictions, but if I did, I'd expect the big Apple story of 2015 will be the flop of the iWatch. Pretty much going to be the next Newton.
What makes you think yo the Newton was a flop? Jobs only canceled it because the company was in such bad shape at the time that he didn't have a choice.
 
I'd say that Apple pay is doing no better in NZ than NFC ;) hardly mainstream at this point. Inventing NFC tech was innovation, tinkering financial application using it is hardly amazing innovation, limited to how many countries ?? Just saying.

I said make I'm mainstream, its just ben released, and that doesnt make it available in every country on day 1, as you know.

Adding NFC was innovation, not inventing.Sony and NXP invented it. Its been around for many years, projects started, never got far. We will see if Apple is the one ti actually implement it globally.


2014 Apple introduces iPhone 6 with Apple Pay using NFC technology
2013 Samsung and Visa announce major partnership to develop mobile payments
2012 Wired US is the first mass market publication to feature an NFC enabled advertisement
2012 Sony introduces the “Smart Tags”, which use NFC technology to change modes and profiles on a Sony smart phone at close range
2012 Samsung introduces TecTile, a set of NFC stickers and a companion application for Android to read and write TecTile stickers
2011 Google launches Google Wallet
2010 AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile announce Softcard (formerly Isis) mobile payments joint venture
2010 The city of Nice in Southern France launches the “Nice City of contactless mobile” project
2010 Google launches the first Android NFC phone (Nexus S)
2009 NFC Forum releases Peer-to-Peer standards
2006 Nokia launches the first NFC phone (Nokia 6131)
2006 Initial specifications for NFC Forum Tags and for “SmartPoster” records
2004 NXP Semiconductors co-founds the NFC Forum to lead the collaboration with industry stakeholders and help standardize the technology
2002 NXP Semiconductors and Sony co-invent NFC
 
Yep. Seems a lot of us disagree with the writer.
A lot of you don't know what you are talking about.
There was not much innovation in 2014. A larger phone hardly qualifies. The only real "innovation" is Apple Pay. And that more for its financial impact than for its novelty.
It isn't anyone feature of the iPhone that makes it innovative but rather all the features they managed to squeeze into the new iPhones. As a whole the new phones are innovative.

Beyond that I can't see how anybody would look at IPad Air 2 and not realize what a massive jump it is over the previous iteration.
And in terms of important stuff, A.K.A. Computers there was again nothing.
IMac Retina, Mini's, iPad Air 2, Mac Pro (really delivered in 2014).
How about fixing iOS and OSX bugs,
Actually I can agree with this one!
releasing more usable and less thin laptops that don't need an adaptor for everything, non glossy screen options, an upgradable headless mac (I know that will never happen),
XMac for the win ! I'm actually with you on that one too. Laptops and iPAds though will continue to get thinner even if it isn't a big deal for most of us.
and iCloud and email service that actually reliable works (seriously, in 2015 updating your email inbox shouldn't take 2 min while the internet connecting is blazing fast, and sending a 5 MB email shouldn't take 10 min when I can upload a 200MB movie to YouTube in 3 min.
Mail isn't perfect but honestly it is a hell of a lot better than many alternatives. Don't even get me started about corporate E-Mail.
GMail and Yahoo can do all of this much faster than Apple).

Sometimes yes sometimes no. I had so much grief with my Yahoo mail account I stopped reading the mail.

In any event I think a lot of people here need to start the new year off looking for the positive.
 
Was this reporter being sarcastic?

The only thing of any relevance Apple released this year was the iPhone 6 and maaaaybe Yosemite if you want to be very generous.

2014 was a very, very, very poor year from an innovation standpoint.


You're forgetting Apple Pay, which alone will likely generate billions for Apple. Then there's Jimmy Iovine and Dr Dre's input into evolving Beats into something that could be very big.
 
To quote Tim Cook:
'Sometimes you want to sit at your desk in front of a huge, beautiful immersive screen, packed with powerful technology. Sometimes you want to take that powerful technology with you wherever you go. Sometimes you want to be close to your content, touching it. Sometimes you want to hold that powerful technology in the palm of your hand. And soon, you can wear that powerful technology right on your wrist. This is our vision of personal technology.'

This seems consistent with their product releases, starting with iCloud in 2011, and right up to Continuity, Handoff, etc in 2014. Like they had a master plan from the start. This plan survived a change of CEO.

Look at Microsoft. Paniced response to the rise of tablet PCs: Windows 8. Response to the outcry at Windows 8: Windows 10.

Samsung making each phone bigger than the last, with no indication of when they will finally work out what's 'big enough'.

Credit to Google for executing to a vision of 'get as many people to use Google services as possible'. Android, Chrome OS, Google apps for iOS, etc.

Agree fully.

I do not know how many times the word innovation has been used in this a thread. I asked for those to list out what others did last year, no reply. So, Apple is doing what others do, improve what is already there. And I consider Handoff and Continuity innovative.
 
Do we still believe in the iPad Pro? Even after Apple didn't find the time to do a proper iPad mini update and fix Gamutgate. Forget it. Any new technology which may make the iPad more useful for professionals will be integrated in the iPad Air 3 at it's current screen size.
 
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I personally think 2014 was a pretty good Apple year. though Cue's statement about it being the best product pipeline in 25 years was slightly over-exaggerated. For me pretty much every product release was just an decent evolution, nothing else. All of the products that was released was of course the best so far, which is rather obvious. Ironically though I think some of apple products in 2014 felt more like an updated downgrade or pointless update imo (new mac mini, iphone 8gb, the low end 21.5" imac, ipad mini 3) - they should have just dropped prices...an 8gb iphone for instance will give customers a bad user experience and so will the low end iMac (they are not a nice way to introduce new users to the apple universe)

The most noteworthy product this year from apple imo was the retina iMac. Its a step into the future, and still the most impressive computer screen on the market.

Cook and Cue probably thinks 2015 will be apples most impressive year as well, they always say that. But currently the only thing I want from the rumored products is a new MB Air with retina. The MB Air feels outdated they way it currently is, the screen is rather crap compared to any other laptop available. The :apple:Watch and all the other rumored products doesn't seem appealing to me, particularly the :apple:watch - Ill never buy a watch I need to charge every day, so I can send heartbeats and smilies to other apple watches.
 
+1

The biggest product release in 2014 was the iPhone 6/6+. Everything else was incremental.
The iPad Air 2 was hardly an incremental update. How this gets ignored is totally beyond me.
Conversely in 2015, it will be the Apple Watch.
I really doubt Apple Watch will be the type of success that some are demanding. It will be successful in Apples eyes though.
Again, all other releases this year will be incremental spec-bumped product.
Hardly! Just putting Broadwell in the laptops will be major.
 
and iCloud and email service that actually reliable works (seriously, in 2015 updating your email inbox shouldn't take 2 min while the internet connecting is blazing fast, and sending a 5 MB email shouldn't take 10 min when I can upload a 200MB movie to YouTube in 3 min. GMail and Yahoo can do all of this much faster than Apple).

Really? Because it take about 5 seconds to download 10 emails on my Macbook. Sending a 1 GB file with Mail Drop takes about 10 minutes. Something tells me it is your connection.
 
Cook's statement can apply to any company to be honest .

Sure they survived the change of CEO, though at the same time , one can argue that Apple has dropped the ball in regards to innovation, their computer range has dropped the ball and gone backwards in some instances. Sure Apple is doing fine, though it's not the same company without jobs, I'm not sure there is a masterplan, plan seems to be maximise profits at all costs.

Innovation. How did the other manufacturers go last year?

Its not the same company without Jobs. Praise to him for inventing the modern smartphone, but his ideologies in life held it back. Android and other manufacturers pushed forward, Apple was heavily constrained by going nowhere. Thats changed. Whether the flat look would have been avoided its hard to say, but thats not a "feature" that affects the devices

As with any company its about profits. Profits pay your employees, reward the stock holders, give security to the company's future. If some here feel that you aim for profits OR good products, thats a pretty head in the sand attitude. Good products will create profits, they go hand in hand.
 
Completely, agree with you.

Innovation seems quite hard to spot, too. Look at the iPad naysayers when the iPad was first launched. It was hard not to agree with criticisms like "No multitasking & no Flash in a product that costs more than a netbook".

Also, working out how to combine multiple parts into one part; Creating a more powerful chip that draws less power; Working out how to get 10 hours of use from a smaller battery... All clever, innovative things. Yet people yawn at "Thinner, lighter, faster."

This is why I see the new IPad Air as perhaps the most innovative product Apple released in 2014. Nothing on the platform was left untouched making it a huge upgrade over the previous IPad which was impressive in its own right. All of this was due to innovation folks.
 
I have a seething disdain for engineers and programmers that think they have a clue about how to run a company like Apple. They should be the subordinates and leave management to those that don't wear pocket protectors and tape on their glasses. Apple doesn't need a nerd to negotiate with China, IBM, and suppliers.

LOL, very true. To be successful you need great products, the are not mutually exclusive. And as this poster hates marketing types being on control, thats ALL SJ was, a marketing genius.

Originally Posted by simonmet View Post
It's not just you. None of this excites me.

As long-time Apple fans and users we have to accept that, as much as they try to market otherwise, Apple doesn't have the soul of their early days. They are now every bit as much a Microsoft as they once claimed to despise. They are not outsiders and they don't think differently. They think only about money and how they can get more of it.

Tim Cook has got to go as head of Apple. I'm calling it now. It was perhaps always a poisoned chalice to follow Jobs. I'm sure Steve did say to Cook not to think about what he would do, but that shouldn't extend to rubbishing the brand, its soul and identity. To be fair I think this already began during Jobs tenure as he gradually relinquished control and responsibility due to his ailing health.

A minor disclaimer that as a science grad with an engineer brother I have a seething disdain for financial or marketing types that think they know what's best for a company. In all modern workplaces the real innovators and workers have become subordinate to corporate management and this is very sad. It should be the other way around. Accountants, lawyers, paper pushers and corporate nobodies should be subordinate to the real drive and soul of a company. Technical experts, engineers, programmers and scientists should be the ones calling the shots and rise to positions of management and power.

Apple needs a technician, engineer or programmer as its CEO. Someone who's willing to to tell investors and Wall Street to shove it when necessary. There is no evidence that Tim Cook is this person and lots to the contrary.

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Use both all day with no issues...

As many on here say, and same with me. Bugs are always in IT, Apples bugs make the news, Samsungs, etc, Androids don't.

Squeaky Wheel Syndrome.

But then again, most in this thread are just bashing Apple. There have been legitimate issues, but a lot over over zealous exaggeration going on here.






Originally Posted by ThunderSkunk View Post
OS X is burying itself in bugs.
iOS 7&8 are still crashy and still an eyesore.
 
Reasons for profit attitude over user experience attitude

I bought a quad 7 Mac Mini the day AFTER the 2014's came out. I was told the reason a quad was not offered was it required a different mother board and Apple was not going to do two of them in 2014.

Regarding the new profit driven aspect as I explained in an earlier post, Tim was being beat up daily on stock shows and in the press. He is senstive to these remarks and decided to be liked by Wall Street as opposed to Jobs who was indifferent at best. Cook did stock buy backs, greatly increased dividends, did a 7 for 1 split and the stock price immediately increased. He became the darling of Wall Street and so did Apple stock.

Apple is now more widely held by institutions, hedge funds, a certain billionaire and will be a Dow stock perhaps this new year. It is so big now that each forward quarter earnings have to outperform the same quarter from the previous year ( like Christmas quarter to Christmas quarter). Compared to other gold plated tech stocks Apple is still under valued and recent estimates put th future price at $175.

They will be able to beat earnings easily if Apple payments takes off since business analysts estimates show the potential for billions upon billions of dollars if it is adopted globally. They calculated a small portion of the money Visa and Mastercard net out as a basis.

I have a science degree and appreciate having Edison, Jobs, Musk running the show but Wall Street winds up calling the tune. We can only hope the pendullum will swing a little the other way and user experience and enjoyment will become more important once again. Cook is still the best for this since he rubbed shoulders with Jobs for years.

Please Tim let users have: user upgradable ram in all desktops, 32 ram minimum in phones and ipads, user upgradable SSD's without TRIM problems with Yosemite, let users not have to have itunes match for music from genuine CD's every time we get a new device, get ahead of product defects and lawsuits and a dozen other things that make life more difficult for the Apple consumers who pay top price for Apple pipeline products.

We are the best customers in the world, who once in the eco system will buy more and more Apple products without the need for constant TV and Print advertising. Just make it fun again to be here!
 
OS X is burying itself in bugs.
iOS 7&8 are still crashy and still an eyesore.

No issues with OS X for me. They all been fixed in the last GM or 10.10.1. Please enlighten me of your issues.

iOS 7 design in my opinion was the best thing they ever did in software terms. I always hated the old iOS design with a passion. My eyes were so strained, I had no choice but to use the accessibility features. I couldn't tell the difference between some icons and there was SO much pinstripe backgrounds and stitches. ugh :confused:
iOS 8 did crash a lot on iPad 2 before the 8.1 update.
 
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