You can't ask Apple to keep updating the software of obsolete HW (i mean the G4 not the iphone) especially when it is a totally different architecture...
One thing they should allow is to restore the iP back to the supported ios....
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What's keeping us using Apple phones?
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One thing they should allow is to restore the iP back to the supported ios....
I try other devices all the time, and it's been a while that they just aren't better. What gets me is that iDevices aren't that great in the way they used to be but the competition has been a distant second for a good many years now.
You're right. But I can ask them to not cut us off on purpose. There is a difference between something being just too old to work/function and someone deliberately preventing that device from doing something.
I will use Dropbox as an example. Dropbox cut us off by deliberately coding their software to detect older versions of OS X and then refusing to work. The fact that we have a workaround and that Dropbox is still completely functional on all my Leopard systems means Dropbox did this deliberately instead of just allowing things to break over time.
It's the latter thing I can live with.
I disagree with you, for me it is part of evolution, dropbox might work, but the day you loose some data because of a work around might be the day you realize why dropbox prevented the old hardware to be supported (may be the new code has some incompatibility).
That said, you have my total respect, it is probably the first time ever in a forum i have seen people that can "agree to disagree" and to that in a fun polite way.
When I first got my iPod touch 2G (2009) I was 14 but already very appreciative of design, functionality and details. Stuck to iPod touches until 2012 when I got an iPhone 5, got the iPhone 4S to bridge the gap between the 5 and 6 in 2014, and I still use the 6 to today (actually switched to a 6 Plus last week).
Instead of Androids many capabilities and customizations I like the simplicity of iOS. What I do most is just using apps, so that's basically just going to the home screen, selecting an app, exiting the app to the home screen, etcetera. That part always works, apps are of great quality and come in great quantities (I actually tried Windows Phone for a few months, can't say the same applies there).
Furthermore I use iCloud to have my things in sync between my Mac, iPad and iPhone. I didn't even restore the backup on my new 6 Plus, I just logged into iCloud and downloaded a few apps. Got everything right back including Photos (iCloud photo library) and music (Apple Music).
Hardware has always been great, not too fancy on the specs but just smooth and stable. Went to the Apple Store one time to get my screen fixed (dead pixels on iPhone 6), experience was great despite having to go there and wait for an hour (much to do in Amsterdam, luckily).
If my next phone would be anything different from an iPhone, I would probably want to (or have to) switch computers and tablets too. And services. Not going to happen. Don't mind being trapped in Apples ecosystem.
Instead of Androids many capabilities and customizations I like the simplicity of iOS. What I do most is just using apps, so that's basically just going to the home screen, selecting an app, exiting the app to the home screen, etcetera. That part always works, apps are of great quality and come in great quantities (I actually tried Windows Phone for a few months, can't say the same applies there).
Furthermore I use iCloud to have my things in sync between my Mac, iPad and iPhone. I didn't even restore the backup on my new 6 Plus, I just logged into iCloud and downloaded a few apps. Got everything right back including Photos (iCloud photo library) and music (Apple Music).
Hardware has always been great, not too fancy on the specs but just smooth and stable. Went to the Apple Store one time to get my screen fixed (dead pixels on iPhone 6), experience was great despite having to go there and wait for an hour (much to do in Amsterdam, luckily).
If my next phone would be anything different from an iPhone, I would probably want to (or have to) switch computers and tablets too. And services. Not going to happen. Don't mind being trapped in Apples ecosystem.
You make a fair point and I acknowledge that.
The user who provided a workaround for Dropbox for us is a coder. He's offered his services to Dropbox free of charge to maintain a PowerPC version. Dropbox ignored him, so he made a new app for us. It does not work on Tiger because the APIs that Dropbox is using no longer work in Tiger. And that is the real reason I suspect they dropped PowerPC. But for Leopard users, enough of the API is still relevant that it continues to work.
The actual changes Dropbox made was simply to provide an OS check and fail out if it was too low. We got around that by spoofing Snow Leopard in the app. Then they deliberately wrote in lower version checking code to freeze us out until the coder was able to work around that. His only workarounds have been to defeat the version checking. The app works so the only changes they are making is to lock out PowerPC.
In regards to Apple, they deliberately froze out iPhones running iOS 7 and above on PowerPC and the iPhone 5 and above. iTunes 10.6.4 contains the same USB sync hooks that were there for PowerPC devices in 10.6.3, but Apple deliberately disabled them. Worst of all they didn't bother mentioning it to the user base.
The same thing happened with iOS 9 users on Intel Macs running Snow Leopard.
It's a deliberate ploy to force upgrading.
Thanks. I make an effort to be polite (and sometimes fail). Just because someone doesn't believe the same way I do it doesn't make their opinion or belief any less valid or important than my own.
If it did, there would be absolutely no way I could live with my wife. We disagree on a lot (not the really important stuff though).
Works great, very fast great battery life integrates with all other devices. My wife has a new android phone and it isn't close to smoothness, abilities, battery life etc.
Why does phone have to wow you - how about doing what you need done.
Why does phone have to wow you - how about doing what you need done.
I can't speak for anyone else but what keeps me on iPhones is reliability and a very good customer service.....
For me "it just works". I gave up freedom, leaving Android, but the reliability and security is more important to me, as it turned out.
Well, not even the apps on the iPhone are all that great any more. I feel like I've been waiting for a new game forever now and it just isn't there. What, another Angry Birds sequel and Fruit Slice. Another Asphalt sequel?
We're at a standstill with these phones. I'm not prepared to keep having this same experience that far into the future.
A new iPhone isn't really new.
To be honest every new iPhone I purchase I am blown away by. The iPhone 5 it was the larger screen and the new display. iPhone 6 it was the form factor and the Touch ID plus the improved speed (skipped 5s) and with the 6s force touch is a feature that I can not live without. I use it all the time and when on phones or tablets without this feature, I miss it considerably.
iOS is actually optimized. Android gets slow and horrible to use. Not mention, the screen size, I can't deal with 20" phablets in my pocket. My 4.5in iPhone 5 gets the job done(hopefully the rumored iPhone "5E" makes an appearance this year.)
This is a very terrible example, but I understand the point you're trying to make.
I'm glad.
Perhaps an extreme example, but not so terrible I think. I can sync my iPhone 6s+ on a Windows 7 PC and I used to sync my iPhone 5 on a 1Ghz 2001 era homebuilt PC with USB 1.1 ports running WinXP. So I don't think it's too far off the mark.
I'm curious, why does it sound "hmm..." to you? People drive the same cars, eat the same food, use the same computers year after year. It's what they like and what works for them.
TO me, changing something for no valid reason is...hmm. I mean, I do try Android devices and Windows phones, and get exposure to them (I have to as part of my job), but while I see things get better and better on all platforms, there's not been any compelling reason for me to switch.
If Apple royally screws something up, that would be a reason for me to switch. Admittedly, if the headphone-jack-rumor turns out to be true, that might be a compelling reason for me to switch, finally. Or, noot upgrade for a while.
Seamless integration across all my other devices. I've done the Android experiment for over 4 years. Tried countless different Android phones. The OS is great, but I'm sick of it.
What is that WOW factor that you are looking for? most all phones are doing the same thing now
Is 4K video recording really worth it? It will suck up space like a hog
3D touch is cool but some use it and some don't. not that big of a deal.
the OG iPhone wouldn't work today because they the apps today wouldn't work
Is 4K video recording really worth it? It will suck up space like a hog
3D touch is cool but some use it and some don't. not that big of a deal.
the OG iPhone wouldn't work today because they the apps today wouldn't work
Anyone expecting a WOW factor with any modern smartphone needs to face the facts...
Apple and Samsung go back and forth copying each other year after year. There is nothing new at this point.
We've reached a saturation point when it comes to innovation in smartphones.
Basically it all just works. iMessage, FaceTime, links to my computers, iPads, the frequent software upgrades. Each iPhone is faster, adds some new features, and have never had a problem upgrading. No other phone has offered any compelling reason to switch.
Coming from flip phones, first smart phone was the 3GS and went to 4s, then 5s, 6 Plus, and now 6s Plus. Always buy two, one for me one for son, and they all worked great. They have gradually turned from a phone with added features like music, browsing and videos to a hand held computer with phone app. The transition has been gradual enough that we have not felt that same initial jump the first iPhone made. Wish I had as much luck with my cars over the years.
Coming from flip phones, first smart phone was the 3GS and went to 4s, then 5s, 6 Plus, and now 6s Plus. Always buy two, one for me one for son, and they all worked great. They have gradually turned from a phone with added features like music, browsing and videos to a hand held computer with phone app. The transition has been gradual enough that we have not felt that same initial jump the first iPhone made. Wish I had as much luck with my cars over the years.
Software support. I've known too many people on Android devices that were abandoned by their manufacturers despite glaring security bugs later discovered.
Outside of Nexus, I'm not yet ready to trust other handset manufacturers at this time, although that could change in a few years.
Outside of Nexus, I'm not yet ready to trust other handset manufacturers at this time, although that could change in a few years.
I've had iPhones since the 3G. Before I got that I would get a new phone every 3-6 months. I'd see a phone and think 'I prefer that to that phone I have' so I'd buy it.
Since I've had iPhone I've never once seen a phone of any make and thought to myself 'I prefer that to the phone I have'. The exact opposite actually. I look at all these fantastic phones and think to myself 'my phone is better'.
When that changes. When I see another phone and think 'I prefer that to my phone'. That's when I'll switch from iPhone.
Since I've had iPhone I've never once seen a phone of any make and thought to myself 'I prefer that to the phone I have'. The exact opposite actually. I look at all these fantastic phones and think to myself 'my phone is better'.
When that changes. When I see another phone and think 'I prefer that to my phone'. That's when I'll switch from iPhone.