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What's New With HomeKit in iOS 15
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You don’t have to buy a HomePod. Your iPad or Appletv can also do the job (except for that one specific feature). Heaven forbid you actually need to own apple products to get fully immersed in the Apple experience.
You’d have to set up separate “home”s. A home for guests /Airbnb and one for you. And accessories can’t be in both homes at the same time, only one. Big oversight in my opinion, I wish Apple would let us designate if a certain accessory should be allowed to guests. Call it “secure” or something on the toggle.
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When will I be able to ask Siri to play my (non iCloud/Music) iTunes playlists??
Who’s to say it won’t? With Apple Pay you don’t have to open the wallet up first, you can just tap it on the terminal and it’ll automatically open up your wallet and the default card.
It wasn’t a specific feature they highlighted so I may be wrong, but I hope they bake that into it like they did with Apple Pay.
As a Watch user I had no idea Apple Pay could do that. Here’s hoping you’re right!
Are bugs fixed (or at least claimed to be fixed)?
Is error reporting/logging present (or at least claimed to be present)?
No-one gives a fsck about new HomeKit features; we just want what is there to work EVERY DAMN TIME. Working randomly at a success rate of anything from 50% to 95%, depending on the precise details, and with zero feedback channel as to why the failures occurs, has made HomeKit the most useless, badly designed Apple product in a long long time.
Even basic obvious things like providing a CarPlay HomeKit view (who among us does not want to check that various items [light, AC, fans, security, smart locks, ...]are in their correct state when leaving the house?) and yet the HomeKit team is so oblivious to the use of their product in the real world that they cannot even provide this most basic of functionalities. Or the utter disaster that is the integration of Shortcuts and HomeKit. (eg EVERY TIME Shortcuts launches a Scene, it will report that something about the Scene failed, even though it did not...) How is this level of incompetence even possible? How can a company that operates at the sublime A+++ levels of manufacturing an M1 or an iPhone also be populated by the D-list losers responsible for HomeKit?
(Yes, this is cruel. Unfortunately it's also true. HomeKit has been bad since the year it was born, and the bugs never get fixed, year after year.)
Is error reporting/logging present (or at least claimed to be present)?
No-one gives a fsck about new HomeKit features; we just want what is there to work EVERY DAMN TIME. Working randomly at a success rate of anything from 50% to 95%, depending on the precise details, and with zero feedback channel as to why the failures occurs, has made HomeKit the most useless, badly designed Apple product in a long long time.
Even basic obvious things like providing a CarPlay HomeKit view (who among us does not want to check that various items [light, AC, fans, security, smart locks, ...]are in their correct state when leaving the house?) and yet the HomeKit team is so oblivious to the use of their product in the real world that they cannot even provide this most basic of functionalities. Or the utter disaster that is the integration of Shortcuts and HomeKit. (eg EVERY TIME Shortcuts launches a Scene, it will report that something about the Scene failed, even though it did not...) How is this level of incompetence even possible? How can a company that operates at the sublime A+++ levels of manufacturing an M1 or an iPhone also be populated by the D-list losers responsible for HomeKit?
(Yes, this is cruel. Unfortunately it's also true. HomeKit has been bad since the year it was born, and the bugs never get fixed, year after year.)
I agree. I like having a lock that automatically unlocks when I get home. It would be easier to punch a code in a keypad, than take my phone out, swipe up, open app, and unlock. I have a Wyze lock, and really like it. Auto lock/unlock, plus I have the keypad in case I wouldn’t have my phone.
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Does anyone know what are the compatible locks for Home Keys feature? August Lock???
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It's pathetic how much HomeBridge is required because HomeKit has so much omitted (especially basic functionality required for Automation -- variables, weather access, delays+timers stuff like that).
It's also pathetic that HomeKit is so fragile in terms of how it needs the network to be absolutely perfect -- AND how it does NOTHING to inform you of when there are problems. There's no logging, no standard procedure for reporting errors, none of that fancy neural network stuff to detect that patterns have changed.
Yes, HomeKit is kinda sort a lot more reliable when the network is just right. But it is absurd that it should be so fragile, and provide no help in making things better.
Even something as basic as "Automations live on hubs" seems to have been designed and implemented by the stupidest person alive so that, I kid you not, as far as I can tell, when you replace a home hub (eg buy a new aTV and wipe and sell the old one) all your automations stop working. You gasp in astonishment -- "surely not?" Yes, that is exactly what happens. That is the level of quality of HomeKit. Even today, with two HomeKit hubs in the form of an aTV 4K and a HomePod, as far as I can tell some automations live on one, some on the other, and the two do not co-ordinate.
Anything Bluetooth based is just as bad. You would hope that anything that handles BT would act as a relay station, eg if I press a BT button near a HomePod, it should always be detected. You would hope that, but does not seem to be the case; in this case it seems like I HAVE TO have my phone near the BT button to get functionality.
It is mind-boggling how bad it is, in ways that you can not imagine how anyone ever allowed this outside the lab, for release.
I assure you, your guests do not want to deal with all that nonsense. They want a key, wifi access and a TV that works.
I use Homekit hardware from Philips (Hue), Eve, Emerson (thermostat) and Logitech (two cameras). They all work pretty much flawlessly, and receive firmware updates from time to time.
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I have quite a few HomeKit devices and it's so convoluted and frustrating. Hue, Yale, Liftmaster, Belkin WeMo, Eve, EERO, etc. all implement HomeKit in different ways and all it takes is one rogue app, I'm looking at you Yale, to delete your entire HomeKit setup. Nothing like trying to manually reset every single device and then try to find a HomeKit code for a device you added three years ago.
Last week, I finally got fiber to the home and upgraded my EERO router to the new Wi-fi 6 model. It caused all of my HomeKit devices to quit working because my old EERO router was part of HomeKit and they refused to communicate through the new Wi-fi 6 model (secure accessories?).
It's so frustrating. I rarely run a "scene" without hearing Siri say "Some of your HomeKit accessories are not responding."
Last week, I finally got fiber to the home and upgraded my EERO router to the new Wi-fi 6 model. It caused all of my HomeKit devices to quit working because my old EERO router was part of HomeKit and they refused to communicate through the new Wi-fi 6 model (secure accessories?).
It's so frustrating. I rarely run a "scene" without hearing Siri say "Some of your HomeKit accessories are not responding."
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I hope the visualization gets an update soon. The buttons are very large and the automation tab is cluttered. Maybe a possibility for 2 or 3 visualization possibilities.
Here's to hoping Bose will update to enable Siri on the Soundbar 300 and 700.
It's a bit redundant to have a HomePod and my Smart Soundbar in the same room, so being able to eliminate another HomePod for some extra cash would be nice.
It's a bit redundant to have a HomePod and my Smart Soundbar in the same room, so being able to eliminate another HomePod for some extra cash would be nice.
By design, Apple pay can't do it on the watch it only works that way with NFC on the phone.
Everything. If devices sold in 2020 don't work with Matter then they are obsolete while still under warranty. There are home settings that are dependent upon who has and has not locked or unlocked the door.
These features seem cool, but I don't really have any hardware options for cameras and locks. Sure, there is the Level lock, but there are no peephole homekit cameras. In fact, there are no homekit cameras that don't look like giant spy cams from the 90s. Where are the single-piece door and deadbolt locks?
yeah Siri seems to be the biggest part of HomeKit. If I run a scene from the Home App it always works. Run it with Siri and often times it says some thing hasn’t responded even though every single accessory in the scene did exactly what it was supposed to do. I use Siri daily for my garage door when I get home from a run and often it tells me the garage door isn’t responding even though the door is opening just fine. The other thing that bugs me is the HomeKit integration with CarPlay is odd. CarPlay will show that my door is closed but when I get home I can see it’s actually open. So I grab my phone and right in control center I can see that the phone says the door is open. CarPlay is just a remote display of the phone so I really don’t understand how the two are ever out of sync.
It's because the Homepod, iPhone or other Apple device is doing the secure processing of the request that the third party device is incapable of doing by virtue of its hardware. The idea is that an Apple device may be in your home however in another room and out of vocal range, but say a Sonos is much closer — so the Sonos speaker would theoretically accept the Siri request, sends it to the other apple device in the other room which securely processes it, then sends the results back to the Sonos seamlessly. This way allows the use of Siri without letting a third party into the secure stack.
Currently running iOS 14.7.1. Recently bought my first HomeKit device, a smart outlet. I was surprised that after all the years that HomeKit has been available, there is still no sleep timer/countdown timer function.