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Actually, that idea is a hundred years old...juhani said:
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http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm
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http://www.mysterydatabase.com/english/Articles/wireless.htm
http://www.luminet.net/~wenonah/new/tesla.htm
http://www.tfcbooks.com/mainpage/links.htm
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aswitcher said:
I'm with you on that one.
I would love a Palm like device married to a hard drive like iPod device. There are so many possibilities.
But alas...
It's only wishful thinking
Apple Vaio
Hi i'm new to this forum & I would like to find out if any one knows about a rumor of Sony makeing a deal with Apple to Run Mac OS on a Vaio. it sounds a little far fetched. I've been a Fan of apple for quite sometime & as inpresive as it sounds to Have a Vaio Running OS X that would be indeed a very good choice for apple & Sony. it may actualy make the sony hiMD's work with apple. in a sonic stage program for Mac. anyway Im jumping from one thing to the next. my question will Apple ever Make A Mac OS that will work on a intel based PC. 😕
Hi i'm new to this forum & I would like to find out if any one knows about a rumor of Sony makeing a deal with Apple to Run Mac OS on a Vaio. it sounds a little far fetched. I've been a Fan of apple for quite sometime & as inpresive as it sounds to Have a Vaio Running OS X that would be indeed a very good choice for apple & Sony. it may actualy make the sony hiMD's work with apple. in a sonic stage program for Mac. anyway Im jumping from one thing to the next. my question will Apple ever Make A Mac OS that will work on a intel based PC. 😕
Natarix said:
Probably not. It has been talked about endlessly and the general concensus is that if Apple were to do that they would lose alot of the great things that come with having OSX, namely, the tight integration of hardware and software that makes it good in the first place. Could they do it. Yes. However, even though Sony makes good machines they still dont compare to Apples offerings IMHO.
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Probably not. It has been talked about endlessly and the general concensus is that if Apple were to do that they would lose alot of the great things that come with having OSX, namely, the tight integration of hardware and software that makes it good in the first place. Could they do it. Yes. However, even though Sony makes good machines they still dont compare to Apples offerings IMHO.
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iGary said:
He most likely does not want to offer features that result in people spending less disposable income at the itunes store in favor of video content for which Apple would have difficulty obtaining a retail licensing agreement.
Mechcozmo
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natarix said:
1. No... Apple makes money on hardware, not software. Look around the forums for examples of this.
2. I don't see why it would be a good idea to have VAIOs running OS X.....
Linkety would be a good think for you to read-- make your post a tad bit easier to decipher, teach you about searching, etc.
Welcome to MacRumors, BTW.
Thanks
yeah it makes sence it was far fecthed thanks for the reply. Any idear's on Tiger Is it gona be free to OS X users & would my mac mini spec be ok for it to run well or what should i inprove ?
Please excuse my Grammer im Irish & my words may seam diffrent please tell me if you dont understand thanks
Mac Mini
80GB HD
G4 think its 1.5Ghz or something 😎
256 Ram
yeah it makes sence it was far fecthed thanks for the reply. Any idear's on Tiger Is it gona be free to OS X users & would my mac mini spec be ok for it to run well or what should i inprove ?
Please excuse my Grammer im Irish & my words may seam diffrent please tell me if you dont understand thanks
Mac Mini
80GB HD
G4 think its 1.5Ghz or something 😎
256 Ram
Mechcozmo said:
Thanks for the Newbie's info hopefuly I can make more sence so fellow Mac user's can understand me
wrldwzrd89
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vPod DRM is called "CSS"
So in theory, it should be possible to copy the DVD's VIDEO_TS folder to a hard disk and watch the movie on such a device as long as it had the code to do the CSS decryption. And because it is using an embedded controller, it should be little different philosphically to what you see in a regular DVD player...
A dual-layer DVD is going to be 9GB or so... so you would think a 60GB "vPod" device should be able to hold 6 or 7 movies worst case (for movies that had filled the disc with special features etc.)
Of course, in a perfect world it might be nicer to have software like you see for PocketPC, Palm and now the PSP that lets you rip a DVD to a tighter format, apply some DRM and get the size way down. There's little point having Dolby Digital and DTS audio streams take up space on the hard disk when you're only going to listen to it with your stereo white earbuds... But if I was a movie exec that would seem to devalue the "experience" because you lose the features, the director's commentaries... and perhaps most important to them the upcoming trailers ...
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On the name front, if iPod Photo and iPod Mini are any indication, wouldn't this new device be called: iPod Movie ?
That would compliment iMovie, and to a movie exec talks more to the experience of "watching a movie" rather than the less compelling "watching a video"
Just my 2c
Bear in mind that DVD discs already have DRM - they have CSS and Macrovision. Every hardware player contains code to decrypt the CSS encryption, and has a hardware key that forms part of the decryption process. The CSS decrpyption code itself is normally encrypted (DVD Jon's DeCSS was written after one manufacturer forgot to encrypt that code).GFLPraxis said:
So in theory, it should be possible to copy the DVD's VIDEO_TS folder to a hard disk and watch the movie on such a device as long as it had the code to do the CSS decryption. And because it is using an embedded controller, it should be little different philosphically to what you see in a regular DVD player...
A dual-layer DVD is going to be 9GB or so... so you would think a 60GB "vPod" device should be able to hold 6 or 7 movies worst case (for movies that had filled the disc with special features etc.)
Of course, in a perfect world it might be nicer to have software like you see for PocketPC, Palm and now the PSP that lets you rip a DVD to a tighter format, apply some DRM and get the size way down. There's little point having Dolby Digital and DTS audio streams take up space on the hard disk when you're only going to listen to it with your stereo white earbuds... But if I was a movie exec that would seem to devalue the "experience" because you lose the features, the director's commentaries... and perhaps most important to them the upcoming trailers ...
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On the name front, if iPod Photo and iPod Mini are any indication, wouldn't this new device be called: iPod Movie ?
That would compliment iMovie, and to a movie exec talks more to the experience of "watching a movie" rather than the less compelling "watching a video"
Just my 2c
That'd misrepresent the forums a bit wouldn't it?Mechcozmo said:
Apple makes a 20% "profit" on its hardware. Great.
And yet it makes less than 1% profit overall.
So there must be a HUGE loss on everything else right?
What it comes down to is they account for their software in a way that does not show how important it is. Really, Apple could say they make 1% profit on their hardware, AND 1% profit on their software AND 1% profit on their other R&D. At least it would show where the revenue was really going.
Or do you think Apple should say "hell, we make 20% on our hardware and a huge loss on R&D and software - thus we should stop making software"... At WORST, software and hardware are equally valuable. If Apple COULDN'T do hardware and software and had to choose - would you think Apple making hardware running windows is more likely to survive, or Apple making software running on IBM and HP machines?
no video ipod
Steve Jobs has always tried to avoid some talk about potential products that apple may be working on. But an idea for a video ipod is one idea that he shot down immediately. First off, you cant compare any type of ipod today to a video ipod. Can you really see people walking down the sidewalk staring at a small screen, 2in, 4in, etc. doesnt matter. Its not a good idea.
Secondly, there isnt a market. Even the portable video units out now arent doing very well at all. Ive never even considered buying one. I think the only person that might be interested in getting something like this would be a video editor or producer. But they can already just carry video on a regular ipod in disk mode to any computer. I think i heard rumors that peter jackson did that with lord of the rings clips. i dont know if thats true, but definatly possible. There was most defiantly a market for an ipod photo and still is. I am a photographer and to let people see my work off of my ipod or connect it to a TV and have a slideshow with music is very appealing. But i dont think apple will make a video ipod.
About the itunes phone, i dont know whats happening with the one that is mention in a previous posting. But i do know that motorola is working on a large capacity phone that will basically double function as a phone and a MP3 player. It will have some internal memory but also have an expansion slot. I dont know if it is going to have itunes though.. the relationship b/w motorola and apple is mending but it still may take time.
Steve Jobs has always tried to avoid some talk about potential products that apple may be working on. But an idea for a video ipod is one idea that he shot down immediately. First off, you cant compare any type of ipod today to a video ipod. Can you really see people walking down the sidewalk staring at a small screen, 2in, 4in, etc. doesnt matter. Its not a good idea.
Secondly, there isnt a market. Even the portable video units out now arent doing very well at all. Ive never even considered buying one. I think the only person that might be interested in getting something like this would be a video editor or producer. But they can already just carry video on a regular ipod in disk mode to any computer. I think i heard rumors that peter jackson did that with lord of the rings clips. i dont know if thats true, but definatly possible. There was most defiantly a market for an ipod photo and still is. I am a photographer and to let people see my work off of my ipod or connect it to a TV and have a slideshow with music is very appealing. But i dont think apple will make a video ipod.
About the itunes phone, i dont know whats happening with the one that is mention in a previous posting. But i do know that motorola is working on a large capacity phone that will basically double function as a phone and a MP3 player. It will have some internal memory but also have an expansion slot. I dont know if it is going to have itunes though.. the relationship b/w motorola and apple is mending but it still may take time.
matticus008
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GregA said:
Where are you getting this 1% profit figure? I'm not saying it's inaccurate, I'm just curious as to the source.
Once any development costs are recouped (within a few million dollars' worth of sales at most), software generates profit almost purely. The costs to provide packaging and media are extremely low. However, once hardware investments are recouped, there is still substantial investment required on Apple's part to get each and every machine built. In either situation, Apple's employees are paid the same regardless of units shipped (no one to my knowledge works on commission for Apple).
If Apple charges per machine such that 20% of the cost goes to them rather than paying for the hardware bits in it, that's profit per machine. But from that 20%, they have to pay their employees, pay for internet bandwidth, marketing, distribution, legal costs, and so on. At the end of the day, when all the bills are paid, that 20% "profit" per computer might actually end up being much lower. The 20% figure is not the final profit for the company, because no company of which I'm aware calculates R&D costs and related expenses into a final price. They allow room for it, to be sure (hence double-digit markups and single-digit corporate profits), but they have no way of knowing how many units will sell or any of the other variable factors that influence net profit for the company. They use the money they already have to pay for R&D and all their fixed expenses and don't rely on assumptions and forward-looking statements to pay the bills.
So Apple makes about 20% per computer, and for software, a lot more, ignoring all expenses. But programming, testing, and maintaining software is really expensive, so the profits per copy, even at say, 80%, might not cover the necessary investment, so the software could theoretically cut into hardware profits as well, but it doesn't matter. Profit per unit is how much it costs to make that one unit directly (inputs) subtracted from the sales price. Profit for the company is total revenue minus total expenditures (which include the inputs for manufacturing PLUS marketing/development/support/etc. costs).
Who would buy an Apple Media Centre then?
This could be a bit ambitious for WWDC, but with all the speculation about ihome etc, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to produce some kind of set-top-box?
Here are the facts
1. Apple are pretty damn committed to HD Video at the moment - a huge growth area this year. Steve Jobs is involved with Pixar and has the pixlet and quicktime technologies.
2. The halo effect that the ipod has generated has woken people up to apple (what took them so long) but does everyone want a new computer? The ipod was a new product and people bought it in droves. Perhaps apple should produce a computer that isn't a computer, a media centre box? "I've got a pc already, but wait, what is this! Want one!"
3. Seriously, this is a HUGE market over the next few years, people took a while to realise they could store their music on their computers, next step is video - and with HDs so much cheaper that is more of a possibility. Computer will start coming into the living room. Microsoft are trying so hard but they don't make computers do they? (Xbox excepted).
4. itunes music store could be accessed through a set top box - and then you could sync it with your ipod. Your photos could also viewed on your tv or ipod.
5. Apple are behind, for a change, in this market. Whilst Microsoft steam ahead with their media edition of windoze, Apple have been concentrating on OSX and ilife, iwork. Beware the sleeping giant.
6. Let's face it Apple could make a damn sexy media center. With the ipod apple are now known for innovation and quality. Microsoft have got it wrong again. For media centre to work - you need a SMALL box (about the size of a mac mini 🙂) that sits in your living room. What you don't want is a tower pc with its associated cheap plastic neon lit chrome trim sitting in the corner sucking the air out of the room.
7. All the technology is there. The mac mini (pc manufacturers are finding hard to price match such a small well specced machine), quicktime, ipod halo effect and itunes store. Bundle it all up and what have you got? A home media solution.
So, ihome may have been a fake, but was the idea such a bad one after all? WWDC could be a little early, but come September???
This could be a bit ambitious for WWDC, but with all the speculation about ihome etc, wouldn't it make sense for Apple to produce some kind of set-top-box?
Here are the facts
1. Apple are pretty damn committed to HD Video at the moment - a huge growth area this year. Steve Jobs is involved with Pixar and has the pixlet and quicktime technologies.
2. The halo effect that the ipod has generated has woken people up to apple (what took them so long) but does everyone want a new computer? The ipod was a new product and people bought it in droves. Perhaps apple should produce a computer that isn't a computer, a media centre box? "I've got a pc already, but wait, what is this! Want one!"
3. Seriously, this is a HUGE market over the next few years, people took a while to realise they could store their music on their computers, next step is video - and with HDs so much cheaper that is more of a possibility. Computer will start coming into the living room. Microsoft are trying so hard but they don't make computers do they? (Xbox excepted).
4. itunes music store could be accessed through a set top box - and then you could sync it with your ipod. Your photos could also viewed on your tv or ipod.
5. Apple are behind, for a change, in this market. Whilst Microsoft steam ahead with their media edition of windoze, Apple have been concentrating on OSX and ilife, iwork. Beware the sleeping giant.
6. Let's face it Apple could make a damn sexy media center. With the ipod apple are now known for innovation and quality. Microsoft have got it wrong again. For media centre to work - you need a SMALL box (about the size of a mac mini 🙂) that sits in your living room. What you don't want is a tower pc with its associated cheap plastic neon lit chrome trim sitting in the corner sucking the air out of the room.
7. All the technology is there. The mac mini (pc manufacturers are finding hard to price match such a small well specced machine), quicktime, ipod halo effect and itunes store. Bundle it all up and what have you got? A home media solution.
So, ihome may have been a fake, but was the idea such a bad one after all? WWDC could be a little early, but come September???
dibbledobble
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VOIP
My Guess
And I admit it is as wild as they come is that we might hear somthing about ichat and VOIP. Somthing along the lines of the offering that Skype do with a local number that allows anyone to call you via Ichat.
In the coming months there is going to be a rationalisation of mesaging services and if Apple are going to get on this bandwagon then they have to do it soon.
oh well only a few hours to wait and see....
My Guess
And I admit it is as wild as they come is that we might hear somthing about ichat and VOIP. Somthing along the lines of the offering that Skype do with a local number that allows anyone to call you via Ichat.
In the coming months there is going to be a rationalisation of mesaging services and if Apple are going to get on this bandwagon then they have to do it soon.
oh well only a few hours to wait and see....
mikemodena
macrumors 6502a
DTphonehome said:
then whats the point of bluetooth wireless headphones? If I was to use them I'd be using them to be sneaky at school where they wouldn't know I had headphones in.
