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How nice it is to be OS agnostic.

It's nice to have that option (I have a combination of WinXP/Linux/OSX at home) but it would be nicer to not NEED that option. I was very happy when I was able to move from Windows+Linux to OSX+Linux around 2004 with a plan to port all the Linux work over to OSX. Now that I've mostly arrived, I'm finding myself needing to keep a Linux box going because I can put the guts in the Linux box that I need, and I'm getting unhappier by the macOS release with the GUI. I'm not proud that I have a multiple-OS life, I'm just finding that it's becoming a necessity again. (Well, maybe not Windows.)
 

Gotcha. I haven't listened to ATP or checked out his site much because I got tired of him, Casey, and John talking about politics on ATP, specifically because I disagree with them politically. It's a tech show - politics should be left out because they can be very divisive. Just because most folks in tech are Democrats doesn't mean everyone in tech is. That's what I like about MacBreak weekly, they rarely talk about politics, and when they do, they don't spend a lot of time on it.
 
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I'd avoid the hackintosh route, been there done that. Its a nice thing to play with but it gets old quick.

I also used Linux for a while, and I seemed to spend more time working on conf files then actual work, plus upgrading was a pain. Lack of apps that I want or need was also a primary concern.

So that brings us to Windows, I use Win10 quite a lot and its as stable if not more so then OS X, has more apps available then os x. It Handles games better, and is the industry standard.

My vote is to use windows, though I'm incredibly happy with my iMac and OS X works well enough for me. I switch from Windows to OS X on it about 73-30 lately. 70% OS X and 30% of the time on windows.

My main laptop is a surface book and that thing has been a great laptop, I'm happy with that as well, so I truly use a mixed environment.
 
I'll move to windows. I have jumped platforms before. I'll have 1 piece of software to replace (Zbrush), but the rest of my production workflow is available on both platforms.

Linux isn't (nor will it ever be) an option for me. After 20+ years, it still isn't ready for prime time.

Out of curiosity, when you say not ready for prime time, what type of workflow is this? It is interesting to dismiss it entirely from the future.
 
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Out of curiosity, when you say not ready for prime time, what type of workflow is this? It is interesting to dismiss it entirely from the future.

Now I do not know about the dismiss entirely but I have to tell you from my perspective he/she is pretty much correct on the not ready for prime time. Now when I first started using linux it was early May of 1999 as that was when I had my first broadband DSL connection and a Win98SE "upgrade" had just fried my at the time top of the line SB Awe64 Gold sound card so it would only play a midi file nothing else even with downgrade to previous version. Was in the store looking for new sound card and seen a Redhat 5.2 box for sale and said what the hell I had been hearing about linux for a while online. Took it home did an install ran sndconfig put in my settings for the old card still in the machine and sure enough I had sound needless to say that was the end of windows.

Fast forward few years going through a few distros until I ended up on the one true OS Debian Woody which having dealt with the rpm hell that was at the time truly a nightmare, the .deb format and the repositories containing them them was a breath of fresh air. The various desktops were serviceable and I never was scarred of the command line as when I started using these things in the late 70s there was no such thing as a GUI. Now I became fairly adept at it even had a one line kernel hack I used to do to get my TV card working to make it default to NTSC instead of PAL until I figured out that you could actually pass an option to that module at boot time to do the same thing.

Onto OSX mid March 2007 the day or the day before I joined this forum I bought a lamp shade G4 as I again had been hearing about OSX and was curious about how it worked, got hell of a deal from someone who had now clue how to get into a password locked mac. Now I got to tell you that was real eye opener *nix on the desktop done right IMHO. Did not really like the speed of it though it was 1.25ghz and the although beautiful looking LCD the 17" just was not going to cut it for me. Sold that off bought dual 1.25 MDD could not stand the sound from the fans there so again sold that off got core 2 duo Intel to replace them and as luck would have it when Leopard came out few months later and the hackintosh scene arrived with it I was able to run OSX on it.

Getting back to the not ready for prime time now here end of last year I was still running Mavericks and as support for that was ending when 10.12 was coming out I figured what the hell I do not like the iOSification direction that OSX was taking on so I will give the linux a try again and I got to tell you next to nothing has changed in them intervening 10 years since I last used it as desktop. I will give them the idea that I did not have to get into reading the Xorg logs to figure out what the hell was needed to get my dual monitor setup working it worked out of the box but just about everything else like messing about with xinputrc to get the extra buttons working on my mouse was still the same. Add in that next to no progress had been made on a consistent look and feel of the various desktop environments and I was just shaking my head thinking an entire decade has gone by and these people cannot still get it together on a common direction to go in. In short if possible at this point I have built bridge on the OSX direction taken and am using 10.11 perhaps in another decade linux on the desktop my be a reality but I doubt it...
 
This is pretty much spot-on. Apple hit a sweet spot (well, a relative one) around Leopard/Snow Leopard, and since then it has been a steady downhill march in both reliability and good UI design. My recent dip back in the Linux pool left me with the same impression as MacUser2525. Maybe all the Linux people who cared about a good Desktop all left for OS X about the same time in the mid 2000s, which left the Linux Desktop in limbo. It sure feels that way.
 
This is pretty much spot-on. Apple hit a sweet spot (well, a relative one) around Leopard/Snow Leopard, and since then it has been a steady downhill march in both reliability and good UI design. My recent dip back in the Linux pool left me with the same impression as MacUser2525. Maybe all the Linux people who cared about a good Desktop all left for OS X about the same time in the mid 2000s, which left the Linux Desktop in limbo. It sure feels that way.

If I could I would still be using SL the best Apple ever put out Mavericks a close second if I had to go with newer.
 
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For a desktop OS, picking the correct distribution is key. Some don't like Ubuntu's Unity, but love Ubunte MATE. Different DE's make all the difference.

I recall using Solaris 2.5 and loved CDE, but not TWM (think that was it). Each offers a different perspective of the same OS.

For my workflow, I love Linux on the desktop, but I don't require really specific programs, such as ZBrush mentioned above. However, since Linux on the desktop is not available where I work, I use OS X.
 
I'm currently hackintoshing and loving it. It's a pain to set it up, but once it's running, you forget it's not Apple hardware. I use it for work (Adobe apps), and works perfectly. The biggest setup headache is getting iMessage/icloud integration to work, because Apple tries to use a specific hardware ID and it's tricky to replicate/workaround.
 
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Completely agree. An OS is as safe as the nut behind the keyboard.

And I want to add that Linux is not ready for the desktop. Far too many problems (video card support is a nightmare) with all of the distros that I have tried.

I tend to agree, I'm a linux admin at my day job but there are issues with most distros. For web browsing/emails, it's ok.


cons:
I don't really like the current video editing apps, don't like the photo management apps (rawtherapee,darktable), don't like most audio editing apps, audio players. Telemetry in some distros: ClearLinux, Ubuntu

pros:
For development, virtualization, automation, it's good. I like the server distros (Ubuntu, CoreOS, Fedora, CentOS)



MacOS is the best of both world
pro: high quality apps that are usually more polished.
cons: aging hardware, hardware cost $$$


Windows 10, very good overall
pro: almost everything, you can use any hardware, excellent performance
cons: I totally dislike the telemetry madness at every level.
 
This comment is bizarre. I've been using Windows 10 on and off since beta and never had any issues with viruses, malware or anything. None of these things are 'inherent' to Windows, it's actually a pretty solid OS. Viruses and malware are inherent to stupid people who compulsively click every hyperlink they see and run every .exe they download.

You forgot to add "and have 10+ toolbars installed in their browser of choice -- Internet Explorer." :D
 
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As it's really looking like Apple will never go back to making upgradable computers again, I guess many of us will have to move away from the Mac.

The question is: Where do we go from here?

On one hand, I really don't want to go back to Windows, and especially Windows 10. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

On the other hand, Linux is great because it allows you to have a hardware selection (not to mention pricing) that's closer to that Windows than Hackintoshes, it's Unix-based (great for Terminal users), it has some nice programs, and it can even be made to look remarkably like OS X. With Linux, you can get the power you want for things like media transcoding and gaming - though I realize Linux doesn't have nearly as many games as OS X. But there's a lot of mainstream software that you can't get on Linux. You also can't watch iTunes videos without stripping the DRM, which is not something you're going to want to put an old Mac through. There's also the potential legal issue - technically Hackintoshes are illegal, but Apple doesn't care, especially since it doesn't really make upgradable Macs anymore, so I guess they realize that they're not catering to everybody and Hackintoshes make it possible for people to keep using OS X, which I guess Apple sees as a plus as it could keep people using real Apple products like peripherals and iPhones, and it could even keep them buying some Macs, like maybe a Mac Mini to keep in the garage or a MacBook Air or two for their kids.

But then you have Hackintoshes. The advantage of Hackintoshes is that they allow you to have OS X and its vast selection of mainstream software, while also being more upgradable than a modern Mac. But they can be a pain to set up - especially on laptops - and I keep reading comments about Hackintoshes requiring a lot of maintenance - though I don't have a Hackintosh, so don't really know for sure whether or not Hackintoshes require a lot of maintenance.

I have no idea what I'll do when I need a new computer. I'll just have to hope my trusty 2011 13" MacBook Pro will last me long enough to decide what my next computer should be and which OS it should run.

I feel somewhat unqualified to weigh in as I'm actually only an occasional lurker here, and hardly what anyone would call a "power user". On the other hand, I've been using Linux exclusively since about 2008. I have literally downloaded and burned well over 100 Linux based OS's and tried them on for size. I used the "Buntu's" (Ubuntu and derivatives) for years, but lately have been sold on Linux Mint. It is elegant and complete requiring almost no post-install configuration, and has worked equally as well on the 4 different computers I've tried it on. One of the keys here I believe, is their proprietary updater. By default, it weeds out all the "bleeding edge" updates that can break your system - had that happened twice with the Buntu's. All updates are numbered 1-5 depending on their risk factor to your system, and numbers 4 & 5 are not automatically checked for installation. You have to manually do that if you want. So far, no hiccups for me.

My beloved Compaq Presario laptop died suddenly about two months ago, and being currently laid off, I couldn't afford to buy a new computer. I started looking on ebay and stumbled upon a page of iMacs. I used to go into the Apple store and drool all over the shoes of the "Geniuses" when they first came out. I couldn't believe how inexpensive they had become. A testament to built-in obsolescence! I purchased a late 2006 17" duo with keyboard and mouse for $89. My wife loved it so much, I went back and purchased another 2006 (this one a 20") for her to replace her year-old Lenovo laptop! That one I got without keyboard and mouse for just $70. So I got two great computers for about half the cost of a new mediocre laptop!

I shrunk the original partitions for the native OS-10's on the two computers to 50 GB, but kept them intact. I then installed Linux Mint to the remainder of the hard drives. I now have the best of both worlds. I can use the Mint for all my regular needs, but still have OS-10 to fall back on if needed. Like tonight, I was chasing an internet gremlin and was chatting with a very nice man from India representing TWC/Spectrum. He asked me to open a terminal. I told him I was running Linux. After a looong silence, I offered to reboot into OS-10 and he happily gave me the instructions to proceed. Mint, like most Ubuntu derivatives comes with 5-years Long Term Support (updatable for 5-years). After that, I can just reinstall a new OS. I can keep these old Macs running and productive till they die...or I do.

Now I'm not a gamer, nor a coder, nor dependent on numerous Windows or Mac programs. But for me, I can do virtually anything needed with Linux. Like someone else said here; it depends on your workload.I will admit in the beginning there was a steep learning curve, but that was mostly due to the fact that I knew precious little about computers in the first place. I remember I was once instructed to "Go into the BIOS and change the boot order" and it took me over a week to figure out how to do that! The point being that if I can learn, any one of you can as well - and much, much faster I would wager.

There is one thing I have learned that I would like to pass on. There was mention of the various Linux desktop environments, and an inference that they are a liability. I would disagree.I think they offer many things to many people. As previously observed, if you prefer the feel of a Mac, the Unity or Mate environments are probably what you want to try. However, if you are still Jonse-ing for Windows XP, XCFE or LXDE is probably where you want to go. If you like really beautiful graphics, try KDE - just be ready for the resources it grabs. But...IMPORTANT...download the desktop version of the OS you want to run! Don't install Unity then logout and back into a different desktop environment. Yes, it is technically possible to do so in Linux, but you're asking for trouble if you do.

Well, that's my opinion and it's worth exactly what you paid for it. I defer to the old adage: "Opinions are like 'exterior orifices' ; everyone has one, but nobody particularly wants to hear about yours."

On one hand, I really don't want to go back to Windows, and especially Windows 10. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

On the other hand, Linux is great because it allows you to have a hardware selection (not to mention pricing) that's closer to that Windows than Hackintoshes, it's Unix-based (great for Terminal users), it has some nice programs, and it can even be made to look remarkably like OS X. With Linux, you can get the power you want for things like media transcoding and gaming - though I realize Linux doesn't have nearly as many games as OS X. But there's a lot of mainstream software that you can't get on Linux. You also can't watch iTunes videos without stripping the DRM, which is not something you're going to want to put an old Mac through. There's also the potential legal issue - technically Hackintoshes are illegal, but Apple doesn't care, especially since it doesn't really make upgradable Macs anymore, so I guess they realize that they're not catering to everybody and Hackintoshes make it possible for people to keep using OS X, which I guess Apple sees as a plus as it could keep people using real Apple products like peripherals and iPhones, and it could even keep them buying some Macs, like maybe a Mac Mini to keep in the garage or a MacBook Air or two for their kids.

But then you have Hackintoshes. The advantage of Hackintoshes is that they allow you to have OS X and its vast selection of mainstream software, while also being more upgradable than a modern Mac. But they can be a pain to set up - especially on laptops - and I keep reading comments about Hackintoshes requiring a lot of maintenance - though I don't have a Hackintosh, so don't really know for sure whether or not Hackintoshes require a lot of maintenance.

I have no idea what I'll do when I need a new computer. I'll just have to hope my trusty 2011 13" MacBook Pro will last me long enough to decide what my next computer should be and which OS it should run.
 
I feel somewhat unqualified to weigh in as I'm actually only an occasional lurker here, and hardly what anyone would call a "power user". On the other hand, I've been using Linux exclusively since about 2008. I have literally downloaded and burned well over 100 Linux based OS's and tried them on for size. I used the "Buntu's" (Ubuntu and derivatives) for years, but lately have been sold on Linux Mint. It is elegant and complete requiring almost no post-install configuration, and has worked equally as well on the 4 different computers I've tried it on. One of the keys here I believe, is their proprietary updater. By default, it weeds out all the "bleeding edge" updates that can break your system - had that happened twice with the Buntu's. All updates are numbered 1-5 depending on their risk factor to your system, and numbers 4 & 5 are not automatically checked for installation. You have to manually do that if you want. So far, no hiccups for me.

My beloved Compaq Presario laptop died suddenly about two months ago, and being currently laid off, I couldn't afford to buy a new computer. I started looking on ebay and stumbled upon a page of iMacs. I used to go into the Apple store and drool all over the shoes of the "Geniuses" when they first came out. I couldn't believe how inexpensive they had become. A testament to built-in obsolescence! I purchased a late 2006 17" duo with keyboard and mouse for $89. My wife loved it so much, I went back and purchased another 2006 (this one a 20") for her to replace her year-old Lenovo laptop! That one I got without keyboard and mouse for just $70. So I got two great computers for about half the cost of a new mediocre laptop!

I shrunk the original partitions for the native OS-10's on the two computers to 50 GB, but kept them intact. I then installed Linux Mint to the remainder of the hard drives. I now have the best of both worlds. I can use the Mint for all my regular needs, but still have OS-10 to fall back on if needed. Like tonight, I was chasing an internet gremlin and was chatting with a very nice man from India representing TWC/Spectrum. He asked me to open a terminal. I told him I was running Linux. After a looong silence, I offered to reboot into OS-10 and he happily gave me the instructions to proceed. Mint, like most Ubuntu derivatives comes with 5-years Long Term Support (updatable for 5-years). After that, I can just reinstall a new OS. I can keep these old Macs running and productive till they die...or I do.

Now I'm not a gamer, nor a coder, nor dependent on numerous Windows or Mac programs. But for me, I can do virtually anything needed with Linux. Like someone else said here; it depends on your workload.I will admit in the beginning there was a steep learning curve, but that was mostly due to the fact that I knew precious little about computers in the first place. I remember I was once instructed to "Go into the BIOS and change the boot order" and it took me over a week to figure out how to do that! The point being that if I can learn, any one of you can as well - and much, much faster I would wager.

There is one thing I have learned that I would like to pass on. There was mention of the various Linux desktop environments, and an inference that they are a liability. I would disagree.I think they offer many things to many people. As previously observed, if you prefer the feel of a Mac, the Unity or Mate environments are probably what you want to try. However, if you are still Jonse-ing for Windows XP, XCFE or LXDE is probably where you want to go. If you like really beautiful graphics, try KDE - just be ready for the resources it grabs. But...IMPORTANT...download the desktop version of the OS you want to run! Don't install Unity then logout and back into a different desktop environment. Yes, it is technically possible to do so in Linux, but you're asking for trouble if you do.

Well, that's my opinion and it's worth exactly what you paid for it. I defer to the old adage: "Opinions are like 'exterior orifices' ; everyone has one, but nobody particularly wants to hear about yours."

On one hand, I really don't want to go back to Windows, and especially Windows 10. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

On the other hand, Linux is great because it allows you to have a hardware selection (not to mention pricing) that's closer to that Windows than Hackintoshes, it's Unix-based (great for Terminal users), it has some nice programs, and it can even be made to look remarkably like OS X. With Linux, you can get the power you want for things like media transcoding and gaming - though I realize Linux doesn't have nearly as many games as OS X. But there's a lot of mainstream software that you can't get on Linux. You also can't watch iTunes videos without stripping the DRM, which is not something you're going to want to put an old Mac through. There's also the potential legal issue - technically Hackintoshes are illegal, but Apple doesn't care, especially since it doesn't really make upgradable Macs anymore, so I guess they realize that they're not catering to everybody and Hackintoshes make it possible for people to keep using OS X, which I guess Apple sees as a plus as it could keep people using real Apple products like peripherals and iPhones, and it could even keep them buying some Macs, like maybe a Mac Mini to keep in the garage or a MacBook Air or two for their kids.

But then you have Hackintoshes. The advantage of Hackintoshes is that they allow you to have OS X and its vast selection of mainstream software, while also being more upgradable than a modern Mac. But they can be a pain to set up - especially on laptops - and I keep reading comments about Hackintoshes requiring a lot of maintenance - though I don't have a Hackintosh, so don't really know for sure whether or not Hackintoshes require a lot of maintenance.

I have no idea what I'll do when I need a new computer. I'll just have to hope my trusty 2011 13" MacBook Pro will last me long enough to decide what my next computer should be and which OS it should run.
Didn't I write the second half of your post?
 
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I think it was a quoting issue in the post. It happens.
Oh, okay. It was just a little jarring reading my words in someone else's post the way they were integrated, since they looked like you wrote them, even though I did. I've experienced issues with quotes in the past, though nothing quite like that. But it happens.
 
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I'd avoid the hackintosh route, been there done that. Its a nice thing to play with but it gets old quick.

I also used Linux for a while, and I seemed to spend more time working on conf files then actual work, plus upgrading was a pain. Lack of apps that I want or need was also a primary concern.

So that brings us to Windows, I use Win10 quite a lot and its as stable if not more so then OS X, has more apps available then os x. It Handles games better, and is the industry standard.

My vote is to use windows, though I'm incredibly happy with my iMac and OS X works well enough for me. I switch from Windows to OS X on it about 73-30 lately. 70% OS X and 30% of the time on windows.

My main laptop is a surface book and that thing has been a great laptop, I'm happy with that as well, so I truly use a mixed environment.
When did you use Linux?
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This is pretty much spot-on. Apple hit a sweet spot (well, a relative one) around Leopard/Snow Leopard, and since then it has been a steady downhill march in both reliability and good UI design. My recent dip back in the Linux pool left me with the same impression as MacUser2525. Maybe all the Linux people who cared about a good Desktop all left for OS X about the same time in the mid 2000s, which left the Linux Desktop in limbo. It sure feels that way.
Gnome 3 is actually pretty nice. And I've heard XFCE is good. Unity is good, though I don't care for the way the launcher takes up the whole length or height of the display (depending on how you have it set up) instead of varying the length of launcher by the number of apps in it.
 
For a desktop OS, picking the correct distribution is key. Some don't like Ubuntu's Unity, but love Ubunte MATE. Different DE's make all the difference.

I recall using Solaris 2.5 and loved CDE, but not TWM (think that was it). Each offers a different perspective of the same OS.

For my workflow, I love Linux on the desktop, but I don't require really specific programs, such as ZBrush mentioned above. However, since Linux on the desktop is not available where I work, I use OS X.
I don't care for Unity either. I like Gnome 3, it's pretty good. Pantheon looks good, but I've heard it can be jarring to go from the Mac-like Pantheon OS and programs to programs which weren't made to look like Mac programs.
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A number of years back now, I forget exactly. I had used Ubuntu and Fedora
So far, the only thing I've had a problem with is changing desktop environments. So, I've learned that it's very important to install a distro which already has the desktop environment you want. In my case, that's Ubuntu Gnome. For others, that might be Mint XFCE or Lubuntu, or Kubuntu, or Xubuntu.
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I feel somewhat unqualified to weigh in as I'm actually only an occasional lurker here, and hardly what anyone would call a "power user". On the other hand, I've been using Linux exclusively since about 2008. I have literally downloaded and burned well over 100 Linux based OS's and tried them on for size. I used the "Buntu's" (Ubuntu and derivatives) for years, but lately have been sold on Linux Mint. It is elegant and complete requiring almost no post-install configuration, and has worked equally as well on the 4 different computers I've tried it on. One of the keys here I believe, is their proprietary updater. By default, it weeds out all the "bleeding edge" updates that can break your system - had that happened twice with the Buntu's. All updates are numbered 1-5 depending on their risk factor to your system, and numbers 4 & 5 are not automatically checked for installation. You have to manually do that if you want. So far, no hiccups for me.

My beloved Compaq Presario laptop died suddenly about two months ago, and being currently laid off, I couldn't afford to buy a new computer. I started looking on ebay and stumbled upon a page of iMacs. I used to go into the Apple store and drool all over the shoes of the "Geniuses" when they first came out. I couldn't believe how inexpensive they had become. A testament to built-in obsolescence! I purchased a late 2006 17" duo with keyboard and mouse for $89. My wife loved it so much, I went back and purchased another 2006 (this one a 20") for her to replace her year-old Lenovo laptop! That one I got without keyboard and mouse for just $70. So I got two great computers for about half the cost of a new mediocre laptop!

I shrunk the original partitions for the native OS-10's on the two computers to 50 GB, but kept them intact. I then installed Linux Mint to the remainder of the hard drives. I now have the best of both worlds. I can use the Mint for all my regular needs, but still have OS-10 to fall back on if needed. Like tonight, I was chasing an internet gremlin and was chatting with a very nice man from India representing TWC/Spectrum. He asked me to open a terminal. I told him I was running Linux. After a looong silence, I offered to reboot into OS-10 and he happily gave me the instructions to proceed. Mint, like most Ubuntu derivatives comes with 5-years Long Term Support (updatable for 5-years). After that, I can just reinstall a new OS. I can keep these old Macs running and productive till they die...or I do.

Now I'm not a gamer, nor a coder, nor dependent on numerous Windows or Mac programs. But for me, I can do virtually anything needed with Linux. Like someone else said here; it depends on your workload.I will admit in the beginning there was a steep learning curve, but that was mostly due to the fact that I knew precious little about computers in the first place. I remember I was once instructed to "Go into the BIOS and change the boot order" and it took me over a week to figure out how to do that! The point being that if I can learn, any one of you can as well - and much, much faster I would wager.

There is one thing I have learned that I would like to pass on. There was mention of the various Linux desktop environments, and an inference that they are a liability. I would disagree.I think they offer many things to many people. As previously observed, if you prefer the feel of a Mac, the Unity or Mate environments are probably what you want to try. However, if you are still Jonse-ing for Windows XP, XCFE or LXDE is probably where you want to go. If you like really beautiful graphics, try KDE - just be ready for the resources it grabs. But...IMPORTANT...download the desktop version of the OS you want to run! Don't install Unity then logout and back into a different desktop environment. Yes, it is technically possible to do so in Linux, but you're asking for trouble if you do.

Well, that's my opinion and it's worth exactly what you paid for it. I defer to the old adage: "Opinions are like 'exterior orifices' ; everyone has one, but nobody particularly wants to hear about yours."

On one hand, I really don't want to go back to Windows, and especially Windows 10. I'm sure I'm not alone in this.

On the other hand, Linux is great because it allows you to have a hardware selection (not to mention pricing) that's closer to that Windows than Hackintoshes, it's Unix-based (great for Terminal users), it has some nice programs, and it can even be made to look remarkably like OS X. With Linux, you can get the power you want for things like media transcoding and gaming - though I realize Linux doesn't have nearly as many games as OS X. But there's a lot of mainstream software that you can't get on Linux. You also can't watch iTunes videos without stripping the DRM, which is not something you're going to want to put an old Mac through. There's also the potential legal issue - technically Hackintoshes are illegal, but Apple doesn't care, especially since it doesn't really make upgradable Macs anymore, so I guess they realize that they're not catering to everybody and Hackintoshes make it possible for people to keep using OS X, which I guess Apple sees as a plus as it could keep people using real Apple products like peripherals and iPhones, and it could even keep them buying some Macs, like maybe a Mac Mini to keep in the garage or a MacBook Air or two for their kids.

But then you have Hackintoshes. The advantage of Hackintoshes is that they allow you to have OS X and its vast selection of mainstream software, while also being more upgradable than a modern Mac. But they can be a pain to set up - especially on laptops - and I keep reading comments about Hackintoshes requiring a lot of maintenance - though I don't have a Hackintosh, so don't really know for sure whether or not Hackintoshes require a lot of maintenance.

I have no idea what I'll do when I need a new computer. I'll just have to hope my trusty 2011 13" MacBook Pro will last me long enough to decide what my next computer should be and which OS it should run.
That term "lurker" reminds me of the Babylon 5 intro.
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A number of years back now, I forget exactly. I had used Ubuntu and Fedora
Oh, okay. Which of those did you prefer? Which desktop environment did you prefer?
 
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I seemed to gravitate towards Fedora, but Ubuntu was definitely easier to use.
The interesting thing about Fedora is that it's downstream of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, which is great if you're currently using RHEL at work or if you're going to use RHEL at work. But Ubuntu is pretty easy to use, and you're more likely to run into people using it. Admittedly, it's unlikely you'll run into anybody running Linux, at all - most folks are using Windows and some folks are using Macs.
 
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The interesting thing about Fedora is that it's downstream of Red Hat Enterprise Linux, which is great if you're currently using RHEL at work or if you're going to use RHEL at work. But Ubuntu is pretty easy to use, and you're more likely to run into people using it. Admittedly, it's unlikely you'll run into anybody running Linux, at all - most folks are using Windows and some folks are using Macs.

Fedora is upstream of RHEL, as Fedora is more cutting edge. In other words, some of the features tested in Fedora may make it into RHEL in the future.

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux
 
I’ve had nothing but problems with Ubuntu. Always driver issues or just plain weird bugs. On different computers, different versions of Ubuntu even. The Arch Linux and Fedora branches of Linux were the most reliable and pleasant for me. I really liked FreeBSD as well, but there was just too much end-user software missing for me and the community is just too small to find enough guidance for solving problems on your own.
 
I left windows just before 8.0/8.1 to go to macOS. Despite windows having a user base many times larger the technical support for OS X was better. I still run Windows 10 in boot camp for a native program that needs full access so parallels is out of the question. But when I use boot camp it reminds me of why I left and for that reason alone I doubt I'll return to windows hardware unless I'm cash strapped at some point.

I'd rather spend more as I don't game on a Mac and never be left wanting. DPI scaling, trackpad and mouse issues. Windows 10 spying and lack of continuity between mobile and laptop are huge factors I can't ignore. I personally use features that most Apple users don't know about or think isn't possible. I have an Apple TV controller in the taskbar for example that doesn't have a windows alternative that works anywhere near as well.
 
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