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Apparently, there's a troll farm active here on MacRumors, so if I see any overtly terrible posts, instead of blindly believing them like I normally do, I should attribute them to the trolls.
I've never felt so scared.
I've never felt so scared.
@Mefisto
Moi,
pysy turvassa!
Don't be, there is an anti-troll company here. Not that we are so successful, more on the losing side.
Moi,
pysy turvassa!
Don't be, there is an anti-troll company here. Not that we are so successful, more on the losing side.
They need to be fed troll house cookies, they won’t post for awhile.
From what little I've read on it the attack seems strange and doesn't fall under the terrorism umbrella. I know a police director in Finland but he had no idea what had transpired when I spoke to him yesterday. I've known him for maybe 11 years at this point. Must admit the random pullup, shooting and calm walking away is very, very strange.
Edit: Spoke too soon without reading updates. Seems victims and perpetrator knew each other. Violent quarrels are no good.
Thanks!
I am trying to get a picture myself at the moment.
It is weird and especially in that region of Helsinki.
Maybe SUPO knows more.
I remember the Sallo Mall shooting in 2009. The pepetrator was a Kosovar.
None of the people involved were, as far as the police are currently aware, Finnish nationals, but they all did in fact know each other. There's no clear motive as of yet, the suspect will be interrogated tomorrow, and the victims are still in the hospital so no interviews conducted with them yet. The police are being vague about pretty much all of it, but the motive seems to have something to do with money, and work; who works where, does what etc.
The lead investigator referred to what happened as "a first in Finnish crime history". The location, the level of violence when compared to the possible/probable motive, there having been many civilians at the site when it happened etc.
Yeah, but crimes of passion, at least in Finland, pretty much always follow a similar pattern: Guy gets drunk, and stabs his wife/girlfriend in a drunken stupor in a private residence, and that's it most of the times.
In this case, as the shooter was wearing construction site type of clothing, it actually explains the situation a little bit, or gives it a little context. At this time of year, there's a construction site on pretty much every street corner here. And the crews that work those sites are often not Finns. They come, usually, from Eastern Europe, because they do the work for cheaper than Finns. I'd really have no problem with who works where, but the fact that this sort of penny pinching not only has the potential to severely compromise the quality of the work being done, and at the same time cause the fact that Finnish construction workers don't have work to do makes it unacceptable.
But that's not something I want to get into right now, and obviously not all of the guys that come here to work are violent criminals, not by a long shot. But like I said, what happened yesterday was very out of the ordinary when thinking about crime in Finland.
EDIT: To be clear, I'm not faulting the guys who come here to work, more so the companies that cut corners and hire them to save money where money shouldn't be saved.
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Speaking in a very generalizing fashion, we as a people, somewhat infamously, have our problems with alcohol, and when you add feelings of being wronged, cheated on, or similar things in to the mix sometimes the results are, like you said, disturbing. It's telling that the story about the father getting drunk on Christmas Eve and chasing his family out of the house into the snow outside is pretty much a cliche.
I must stress, though, that mostly we're a pretty swell and easy going bunch.
But this is becoming depressing, I remember seeing a video on Youtube some time ago where two monkeys were driving a car of sorts. I'm going to go look for that now.
I have to take Mrs AFB ‘s car to the garage tomorrow. Can’t decide if I’m going to work from home and forgo the AC I’d get in the office or drive in. But if I drive in Mrs AFB’s car to the office it has no AC.
One way or another I’m going to get hot.
Wow, I didn’t realize that any cars these days come without A/C! In the US I think A/C in cars is pretty much standard now, although in homes it is a different situation. People in the New England states or in Minnesota and Wisconsin don’t really need it most of the time, and also solder homes in any state weren’t initially built with it and ductwork and all the rest for central A/C can be prohibitively expensive or simply impossible depending upon the dwelling. That’s when people employ the use of window A/C units.
It’s a pretty basic 2012 Kia Picanto. Not my choice. But she liked it when we were car shopping a couple of years back.
Around 39 then? Hotter than it is here. Plus the humidity is greater there.
36 here. Knock on wood we haven't had rain and clouds to cause a humidity rise. It drizzled a few mornings ago but thankfully dried up before the sun came up.
Here in Minnesota we only need air conditioning one weekend a year...that’s summer. Then it’s winter again.
Probably why you fly out of the high desert so much. Do people still use swamp coolers + AC or just AC? I was looking at some real estate here and there, particularly in Indian Wells and saw multiple AC units, albeit smaller ones, for better climate control. I thought the gold standard was 2? I see a lot of garages with discrete ductless systems with slim registers. on the one hand I don't see the point and on the other I somewhat do.
