Hi people!
Just put my order down for a 2012 Mini, bumped to 2.6GHz i7, and with a fusion drive. Memory, however, I did leave at the standard 4GB, as I plan to upgrade it on my own.
This is where my questions start; Memory options.
I've been doing quite a bit of searching, but I still haven't found any consistent "evidence"/results/experiences from the different options there are when upgrading the memory, especially when it comes to two areas; Frequency and timings.
General consensus on the 2011 Mini at least seems that even if the specs says memory should be at 1333MHz, there is no problem running RAM at 1600MHz, and 1866MHz is also possible if you find the right memory.
For the 2012 Mini however, the only first hand experiences I've found so far is the thread here in this forum (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1479944/) where NoisyCat mentions that DDR3-1866 RAM that had been running fine at 1866MHz speed in their 2011 Mini only would run the same RAM at 1600MHz in their 2012 Mini.
In my view it does not sound likely that the newer processor models would have worse memory support, which makes me believe that NoisyCat's experience might be a fluke, but so far I've not seen any other reports of anyone trying.
Doing a bit of studies of results over at Geekbench tells me pretty much what has been described here, I can find results with the 2011 Mini running with both 1600MHz and 1866MHz memories, but I've not found anything higher than 1600MHz for the 2012 (did see a 1333MHz one though), and my tries to search for specific memory frequencies in their database has not been quite successful.
Frequency is quite easy to lookup, and is shown in a lot of various tests. The RAM latencies/timings however is often not often shown at all when people are discussing RAM.
Lower timings, if actually utilized by the computer and not adjusted back up to higher latencies, will provide better performance. The issue however is that I've not been able to find any way to properly find out what latencies the system is running the sticks of memory at.
The only thing I've found with regards to this, is reports about MacBook Pro 2011 which resulted in Kernel Panics if either too low or too hi timings (<8 or 10< http://guides.macrumors.com/Buying_RAM)
Any one has any different experiences with sticking really low timing memory in their 2012 Mini?
As for my set of choices I'm going for at total of 16GB, and listening to the choir states to keep as far away as possible from Corsair memory. This will work in all cases except for when I decide to go for 1866MHz RAM, as they're the only ones with a 16GB kit running this frequency. This leaves the following kits (available from stores here in Sweden) as interesting (all of them are 16 GB kits with two 8GB sticks):
Crucial PC12800/1600MHz CL11 1.35V ($100)
Kingston HyperX PnP PC12800/1600MHz CL9 1.5V ($160)
Kingston HyperX LoVo (also PnP) PC12800/1600MHz CL9 1.35V ($163)
Corsair Vengeance PC15000/1866MHz CL10 1.5V ($160)
My current aim is probably for one of the Kingston kits, for their lower CAS latencies, and quite known compatibility with Macs in general (contrary to the numerous issues Corsair RAM seems to have).
So come on people, especially you guys on the edge that has had some time to experiment with throwing memories in to their new 2012 Minis.
The lack of stories of experience with memory upgrades for this model is what I'm hoping to get moving a bit here, as it is still not quite clear what is the best types of memory to aim for...
Just put my order down for a 2012 Mini, bumped to 2.6GHz i7, and with a fusion drive. Memory, however, I did leave at the standard 4GB, as I plan to upgrade it on my own.
This is where my questions start; Memory options.
I've been doing quite a bit of searching, but I still haven't found any consistent "evidence"/results/experiences from the different options there are when upgrading the memory, especially when it comes to two areas; Frequency and timings.
General consensus on the 2011 Mini at least seems that even if the specs says memory should be at 1333MHz, there is no problem running RAM at 1600MHz, and 1866MHz is also possible if you find the right memory.
For the 2012 Mini however, the only first hand experiences I've found so far is the thread here in this forum (https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1479944/) where NoisyCat mentions that DDR3-1866 RAM that had been running fine at 1866MHz speed in their 2011 Mini only would run the same RAM at 1600MHz in their 2012 Mini.
In my view it does not sound likely that the newer processor models would have worse memory support, which makes me believe that NoisyCat's experience might be a fluke, but so far I've not seen any other reports of anyone trying.
Doing a bit of studies of results over at Geekbench tells me pretty much what has been described here, I can find results with the 2011 Mini running with both 1600MHz and 1866MHz memories, but I've not found anything higher than 1600MHz for the 2012 (did see a 1333MHz one though), and my tries to search for specific memory frequencies in their database has not been quite successful.
Frequency is quite easy to lookup, and is shown in a lot of various tests. The RAM latencies/timings however is often not often shown at all when people are discussing RAM.
Lower timings, if actually utilized by the computer and not adjusted back up to higher latencies, will provide better performance. The issue however is that I've not been able to find any way to properly find out what latencies the system is running the sticks of memory at.
The only thing I've found with regards to this, is reports about MacBook Pro 2011 which resulted in Kernel Panics if either too low or too hi timings (<8 or 10< http://guides.macrumors.com/Buying_RAM)
Any one has any different experiences with sticking really low timing memory in their 2012 Mini?
As for my set of choices I'm going for at total of 16GB, and listening to the choir states to keep as far away as possible from Corsair memory. This will work in all cases except for when I decide to go for 1866MHz RAM, as they're the only ones with a 16GB kit running this frequency. This leaves the following kits (available from stores here in Sweden) as interesting (all of them are 16 GB kits with two 8GB sticks):
Crucial PC12800/1600MHz CL11 1.35V ($100)
Kingston HyperX PnP PC12800/1600MHz CL9 1.5V ($160)
Kingston HyperX LoVo (also PnP) PC12800/1600MHz CL9 1.35V ($163)
Corsair Vengeance PC15000/1866MHz CL10 1.5V ($160)
My current aim is probably for one of the Kingston kits, for their lower CAS latencies, and quite known compatibility with Macs in general (contrary to the numerous issues Corsair RAM seems to have).
So come on people, especially you guys on the edge that has had some time to experiment with throwing memories in to their new 2012 Minis.
The lack of stories of experience with memory upgrades for this model is what I'm hoping to get moving a bit here, as it is still not quite clear what is the best types of memory to aim for...