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Apple needs to step up with iOS exclusive features for iPad, that's the problem
 
Apple needs to step up with iOS exclusive features for iPad, that's the problem

What exclusive features? Split screen? Anything else?

As far as split screen, I think, for me, that'd be too small to use on the mini, and barely usable on the Air. Even on my MacBook, I blow up most apps to full screen most of the time.
 
With iOS being almost exactly the same with nothing to really set the iPad apart, what's the point of an iPad when the 5.5" iPhone comes out? Even more hilarious is how useless the iPad mini will look next to it

Screensize has a tremendous impact on user experience and immersion. Think watching a movie on a 20" tv vs. in the cinema.
Screensize also has tremendous impact on usability and UI possibilities. Try using OS X, and say, Photoshop on an 11" Air vs. on an Apple Cinema Display.
Or even Mail on iPhone vs. iPad.

Screensize alone makes a huge difference. And 5.5" is nowhere near 9.7".
It is what really sets the iPad apart.
 
What exclusive features? Split screen? Anything else?

As far as split screen, I think, for me, that'd be too small to use on the mini, and barely usable on the Air. Even on my MacBook, I blow up most apps to full screen most of the time.


You say that split sceen is not usable on the ipad Mini and the 9.7 Inch display of Ipad Air.
Try doing that on a 4/5 inch smartphone/phablet!!

The split sceen(multi window) works very well on my Samsung Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4 that has a 8.4 inch sceen and i use it nearly all the time.

I am sure it is going to be very usable and works well on the Ipad Air with 9.7 inch sceen and 7.9 inch sceen of the Ipad mini.

I say that split sceen(multi window) does not work well on Samsung Galaxy Note 3 that has a way smaller sceen than the Ipad Air and Mini and it is pointless to have a splitsceen on a 4/5inch smartphone/phablet.
 
The iPhone 6 will be 4.7 inches. That said, I just got a 5.5 inch Android phone (I love the iPhone but need a big screen due to vision issues) and my iPad is still just as useful as it was before. Here is a pic of my LG G3 (5.5 inch screen) and my iPad Air.
 

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1. Not all iPads are cellular.

2. Cellular iPads don't require any contract. You buy data when you need/want it.

That's not the point, especially when wifi is available almost everywhere

We are talking about iOS being close to identical on devices with dramatically different screen sizes. When the 5.5" iPhone 6 launches it's going to hurt iPad sales quite badly, especially the iPad mini
 
That's not the point, especially when wifi is available almost everywhere

We are talking about iOS being close to identical on devices with dramatically different screen sizes. When the 5.5" iPhone 6 launches it's going to hurt iPad sales quite badly, especially the iPad mini

Apple already said the iPhone 6 will NOT be 5.5, sorry. It will be 4.7. The 5.5 version, if released, won't be around until next year, and it won't badly hurt the iPad at all. They are two different devices with different uses.
 
That's not the point, especially when wifi is available almost everywhere

We are talking about iOS being close to identical on devices with dramatically different screen sizes. When the 5.5" iPhone 6 launches it's going to hurt iPad sales quite badly, especially the iPad mini

I don't think a substantial number of iPad users care how well-optimized iOS for iPad is - screen dimensions undoubtedly trump that. I also think that, though there are undoubtedly those who want to see more differences/optimization between iOS iPhone and iOS iPad, there is probably an equal group that want the experience to be as similar as possible. And then there's probably a much larger group that doesn't really notice or care one way or the other.

I don't disagree that there will be some people who decide, "The big iPhone is big enough, I don't need to own both any more." I also don't doubt that, among iPad models, the Mini will probably be affected by that more than its larger siblings. But of those who currently own both iPhone and iPad, a larger iPhone is not likely to change the fact that they prefer to do some things on a screen the size of an iPad. Perhaps they'll use their iPad less and iPhone more. But that doesn't change the basic proposition. For viewing, bigger is better, for portability, smaller is better. Which factor is more important will vary from person to person, and from moment to moment.

But what really matters to Apple is not whether they lose some iPad sales, but that, overall, having a larger screen captures more new $900 Apple customers than it loses in $400 iPad sales. That's no different than iPhone's "creative destruction" of iPod.

Though the pace of adoption has slowed for tablets, the tablet market has a long way to go before it saturates. As long as Apple can find as many iPad customers as it loses (and the IBM deal is one example of how that can happen), iPad is not likely to be an endangered species.
 
Attaching pictures of iPhone Calendar and iPad Calendar. See the difference?

And btw, this has me thinking, should a 5+ inches iPhone perhaps use the iPad interface?

The touch points have to be a certain amount of pixels therefore the absolute smallest size screen an iPad interface can sustain is 7.9 inches. The iPad mini math adds up to be the same size touch points as an iPhone currently. And even some have complained that its feels a bit cramped. So a 5.5" iPad interface would be suicide.

iOS 7/8 has been designed to be VERY scalable. So I would assume that a larger iPhone interface will not just bee "bigger" but the app elements will just be a bit more spread out for many apps. But the biggest gains will be for internet, video and photos.
 
Just pointing this out. People want bigger phones (like 5.5") to replace tablets. That fuels a lot of the demand. So obviously the 5.5 will hurt ipad sales. But ipad sales are already hurting.
 
Because an iPad has a significantly better screen than even a rumoured 5.5" iPhone, and even the Cellular iPad Air is a couple of hundred cheaper than the equivalent iPhone 5S, let alone a WiFi iPad Mini vs 5.5" iPhone.

I can't imagine buying an iPhone when I could buy a cheap smartphone and an iPad and still save money.
 
I have a Note 3 which is 5,7" and I am tempted to buy an iPad Mini when it's updated. My use case for it will be magazine/news reader and portable video player. The Note 3 is great in many ways but I really prefer something larger when it comes to reading longer texts.

My point is, the gap in screen size between the largest iPhone and smallest iPad is still large enough to keep them as useful companions.


Same situation. I went for the iPad 4. No regrets about the size :)
 
Maybe it's just me or maybe when you've actually used a 5.5'' + phone you realise it isn't that big and that even an 8 inch tablet overs a lot more real estate. Before I first got the original galaxy note I had the same thoughts and felt that it would be a tablet/phone rolled into one. However after using it for a while I went out and bought both 10 and 7 Inch Tablets. Even when I had the note 3 which is 5.7'' I still used the iPad mini and air.
 
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4.7" iphone with iPad retina mini FTW! iPhone 5.5" will have its fans but I always feel 5.5" phone is too big. If that 5.5" can utilize apps with iPad interface then I will give it a 2nd thought.
 
I think that sales of the 5.5" will not be very high, especially if people already have an iPad.
 
Ipad Air is substantially larger than the rumored 5.5" iphone. For me in my work I no have need for a separate phone. I make/receive calls on my Air. Since my work involves implementing ipads/specific applications to hospitals, this is a no brainer for me. Some of my employees have elected to go phone free as well and allow Ipad to handle everything.
 
"What's the point of a near 10" device when we have our smaller 5.5" device? And that almost 8" device? BWAHAHAHA!"

Really? :|
 
That's not the point, especially when wifi is available almost everywhere

We are talking about iOS being close to identical on devices with dramatically different screen sizes. When the 5.5" iPhone 6 launches it's going to hurt iPad sales quite badly, especially the iPad mini

Wifi is available everywhere? Not in my country. I used my device the most at cafe and bus due to long commuting time. You cannot have wifi in bus in my country. And cafe does not always provide free unlimited wifi. Some Starbucks stall limit wifi usage to 1 hour. I have been pondering cellular vs non-cellular iPad for a long time and cellular iPad is definitely the way to go.
 
What exclusive features? Split screen? Anything else?

As far as split screen, I think, for me, that'd be too small to use on the mini, and barely usable on the Air. Even on my MacBook, I blow up most apps to full screen most of the time.


Whilst I would like split screen on the iPad, how would it be an iOS exclusive feature if it were implemented now?
 
Whilst I would like split screen on the iPad, how would it be an iOS exclusive feature if it were implemented now?

I believe the poster I was responding to was talking about features exclusive to the iPad as opposed to the iPhone. Split screen would be exclusive to the iPad because it wouldn't be on the iPhone.
 
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