What's your limit on piracy?

Discussion in 'Community Discussion' started by mrat93, Mar 6, 2011.


On a scale from 1 to 10, how bad of a pirate are you?

  1. 1

    15 vote(s)
  2. 2

    13 vote(s)
  3. 3

    5 vote(s)
  4. 4

    9 vote(s)
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    13 vote(s)
  6. 6

    9 vote(s)
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    15 vote(s)
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  1. mrat93, Mar 6, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 6, 2011

    mrat93 macrumors 65816


    Dec 30, 2006
    I've noticed a lot of discussion on piracy on MR lately, and I wanted to get a general idea on how much people pirate different types of media. Because there are so many different types of media, it's not very easy to measure 'how much' you pirate, here's a little scale.

    10 - I download everything illegally. Software, , operating systems, games, apps, music, movies, you name it!

    8 - Mostly all of my media has been downloaded illegally. I rarely, if ever, pay for music, movies, software, etc.

    6 - More than half of my media is pirated. I only buy media if I feel the artist, developer, whomever really deserves X amount of money for what I am buying.

    4 - I try to pay for most of my music and movies and other low-cost things, but software packages in the 100s of dollars are a little too much to pay for.

    2 - I rarely pirate media. I do a lot of trying before buying and give credit where it's due.

    1 - Piracy is never justified. NO EXCEPTIONS.

    By this scale, I say I am a 7. I try before I buy all of my apps. Except for LogMeIn. I had a cracked version for a while then bought it when it was on sale for $20. I also pirate 95% of computer software, especially when it comes to things like Angry Birds for Mac. It's the exact same game but for $4 more. Maybe worth $1 extra but no more. I pirate 99.9% of my music, butI also don't listen to 99% of my music, so I wouldn't consider it to be THAT much money lost to artists. I just find it more convenient to download full albums as opposed to individual songs. For movies, unless they're bluray, I always download them. Faster and easier than going to a store. And of course, I download ROMs for whatever I can for older systems which are no longer sold anyway.
  2. ace198 macrumors regular

    Oct 8, 2007
    6 or 7 most likely. I only buy from artists I love. I download all music except for two artists. I bought all of the albums for those two.
  3. glossywhite macrumors 65816


    Feb 28, 2008
    I don't agree with piracy - it was/is a terrible thing! To attack ships, steal, rape and murder is AWFUL. Copying binary streams, however? Meh - who cares.

  4. shstiger2009 macrumors 6502

    Jan 30, 2011
    Probably a 6/7 for me...I have 300 songs in my iTunes account and I've bought about 10 of them. Software? When it's in the 100's of dollars vs paying 0...well, I just can't justify spending that money. I do buy things that are in the $20-40 range however, because it's not breaking the bank buying things worth this amount of money from time to time.
  5. Mexbearpig macrumors 65816


    Dec 26, 2008
    Music, I don't often download. But when I do, I usually pirate it. Unless I want it right then. In which case I don't mind paying a dollar.

    Movies, I only watch online. Never download. That's where i draw the line.

    Software/apps-If I am jail broken, yes. But Im not right now. And
  6. Rodimus Prime macrumors G4

    Rodimus Prime

    Oct 9, 2006
    for me the line tends to be for high end software like Adobe PDF. My reason for that is often times I just need a basic PDF writer that allows me to do minor edits or appending/removing pages in the middle of a PDF.
    I have not put a PDF writer on my laptop but my desktop has one because I needed it to fill out an application so it was easier to read. Other wise I would not of gotten it. It is not like I am doing any real work with it.

    I used to pirate my music but not I tend to buy it because it is easier to pay the few bucks for it than to go hunting for it. Movies the one that I pirate are not ones I would ever pay money for any how. Normally it is some limited thing that I want to see out of it. I have a fairly large DVD library of DVD that i have bought.

    Hell my desktop has Quicktime pro on it just to shut up apples stupid do you want to upgrade pop ups.
  7. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
  8. glossywhite macrumors 65816


    Feb 28, 2008
    LOL "stealing". I'll have to explain binary to you sometime ;)
  9. Xavier macrumors 68030

    Mar 23, 2006
  10. ucfgrad93 macrumors P6


    Aug 17, 2007
    I'll pass on your explanation. :rolleyes:
  11. turtle777 macrumors 6502a

    Apr 30, 2004
    I'm a 2.5

    I often "test-pirate" software for a while, and then purchase it if I continue using it.

    Far too often I have purchased software just to find after a few weeks that it doesn't suit my needs. Waste of money.

  12. Tailpike1153 macrumors 6502a


    Aug 31, 2004
    Bellevue, WA
    I'm a about a 1.5. But I've gotten lots of gifts.;)
  13. Apple OC macrumors 68040

    Apple OC

    Oct 14, 2010
    I miss poor little Napster ... have not downloaded since
  14. Theclamshell macrumors 68030

    Mar 2, 2009
    Is modifying trials to make them fulls pirating?
  15. CaoCao macrumors 6502a

    Jul 27, 2010
    Is cracking a PC game when you own the xbox360 version and make it run on OS X piracy?
  16. mrat93 thread starter macrumors 65816


    Dec 30, 2006
    Legally, yes. However, I see no reason why you should have to pay for the exact same game twice.
  17. Abstract, Mar 7, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2011

    Abstract macrumors Penryn


    Dec 27, 2002
    Location Location Location
    Then I'm a 10. By "10", I mean I'm a 2.

    Ok ok, I'm a 7. I download music all the time, but I purchase the albums I really like/want. Despite being a 7 on your scale, I don't really feel bad about it.

    Is it illegal to download music the way I do?? Yes.
    Does illegal downloading lead me to purchase more music than I would have if I hadn't pirated first and put the albums on my iPhone to "try"? Actually, yes.

    I do commit a crime when I download illegally, but realistlcally, the music industry wins when I download illegally. It's the music equivalent of a "test-drive", and trust me, they're far more likely to sell me an album if I'm allowed a test-drive. I purchase around 30 albums per year. There are people out there who purchase far more albums than me, but I still purchase far more music than anybody else I know. :eek: I also pirate more music than anybody I know....maybe 5-10 albums per month.

    With regards to software, I'm a 2. I purchase software. I use a pirated version of Office and Adobe Lightroom, but I have paid for all my other software.
  18. Dmac77 macrumors 68020


    Jan 2, 2008
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    I'm probably a 9. I honesty don't remember the last time I legally bought music. Out of the 5,600 songs in my iTunes library I probably bought about 200 of them.

    I make a copy of every movie I get through Netflix. I feel as if the damn studios make enough already and I already pay $25 a month for Netflix, so screw the law.

    As for software I pirate that too. The only software I buy legally are operating systems and antivirus for my windows machines.

    I honestly couldn't care less if people think I'm a bad person for pirating stuff. My personal opinion regarding those people are get off your damn pedestal and as my grandma always says "shove it where the sun doesn't shine."

  19. 0007776 Suspended


    Jul 11, 2006
    I'm probably around a 5 if I have money I will usually buy something, but I don't have a lot of extra money so things do get pirated. As far as music and movies go I don't like to pay, but I'm happy with watching or listening to an add supported streaming version if it's available. If it's not I pirate it.
  20. rdowns macrumors Penryn


    Jul 11, 2003
    Always love to read how and why people justify their pirating. :D
  21. glossywhite macrumors 65816


    Feb 28, 2008
    Funny eh?
  22. maflynn Moderator


    Staff Member

    May 3, 2009
    I don't pirate, taking something that I don't have a right to is stealing. Not matter how much people try justify their actions. Stealing is stealing.
  23. Lone Deranger macrumors 68000

    Lone Deranger

    Apr 23, 2006
    Tokyo, Japan
    I'd like to hear from those in this thread that have little or no problems with piracy how they would feel about taking a significant pay cut. Or having thousands of individuals siphoning money out of their bank accounts just because they can. Would you be okay with that?
  24. maril1111 macrumors 68000


    Mar 14, 2010

    i have only pirated the adobe suite and a couple of albums nothing else but for a highschool student the adobe suite here in denmark is not affordable
  25. Dagless, Mar 7, 2011
    Last edited: Mar 7, 2011

    Dagless macrumors Core


    Jan 18, 2005
    Fighting to stay in the EU
    It's not the same thing; you don't buy a game, you buy a license to run that copy of it on the console you decided to buy it for. It costs more than nothing to port a game, and it costs a lot more for an additional development team to do the porting.

    Course they wouldn't.
    And of course we should expect some upcoming reply about piracy doesn't impact software.
    (I worked on a software title (PC+PS3) a year ago. Once the PC version was cracked the sales dropped through the floor, recently a hack was released for the PS3 and guess what happened to our software sales?)

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