Then do it. You don’t use your mouth to code, do you? Mr. WhatsApp?
Nice find!Is this the one? https://apps.apple.com/us/app/calculator-plus-v2/id1181465428
I did a DuckDuckGo search for Calculator Plus and that so far is the only one free without in-app purchases...
This is interesting and a nice to know, because from a far perspective: a company with billions of dollars per year, tons of other development endeavors seemingly harder (i.e more than a chat app) done successfully already, etc yet “they can’t find, hire and execute that single engineer time for the extra device?”Agree
However here in Asia, everything runs on WA, so I still need it
As a software engineer I can appreciate how much effort it takes to go from a single device E2E encrypted system to multi device.
In Software 101 it would be a classic example how something that would cost them maybe one guy and 1-2 months engineering time in the beginning of the development to now 1-2 years with dozens of engineers, disruptions to the service, and a 100 service and support people in place, QA teams etc.
So the cost to implement this now vs starting out like that from day 1, is easily 10,000x
Of course in the beginning those 1-2 months can be the difference between life and death for a startup.
But it's still interesting from a software engineering perspective.
No, it's Whatsapp's own basic requirement of a phone that cockblock itself. Other messaging apps like Wechat, Line, etc have no problems making an iPad client.‘We’d love to do it’ sounds like they got cockblocked by apple. Otherwise, they’d say ‘it’s coming’ and use this as marketing jump point.
Yup.Wait... am I reading that right or am I needing glasses ?
We "WOULD" love to do it ?
Then... just do it ?
What prevents your team from downloading Xcode and doing it ?
A good developer will take a week top and it will be done.
Actually, the incentive is huge as it allows many businesses to use Whatsapp Business on iPads instead of using a separate phone. And yes, whatsapp does make money from the whatsapp business APIs.Follow the money -either there’s not a big enough potential user base to justify creating an iPad app or there’s something keeping FB from making the good money on iPad user data that they make from selling iPhone user data.
They would have put one out years ago if the financial incentive was there.
You have a point. Whatsapp is old. Whatsapp was conceived in the days where most people only have one smart device, the one smartphone. The main requirement of a phone device + a phone number speaks for itself. This is both a plus and minus. It's a Plus since it's a low barrier of entry in many markets, resulting whatsapp's huge userbase today. It's a minus since it's an antiquated system when users have multiple devices.WhatsApp was already the most used chat app in the world before FB bought them. They never fully supported more than a phone because most of their user base only uses a phone to message. iPads are first world problems. There's also a desktop app, but it sucks.
The nazi app? Really?Zero reason to use WhatsApp. Get Telegram.
Whatsapp uses a somewhat strict login system based on the phone number. They could do that but first they would need to allow for multiple master logins. Their multi-device stuff relies on a single master device running the primary WhatsApp app and the rest are child client devices that have a secondary login that is permitted through the master device, and they run a web-based (sometimes with a native UI) app that is designed as a client/child app and isn’t full-featured.What prevents them on clicking the 'universal' checkbox in Xcode? If code is already there? We are talking just iPhones and iPads and Macs - not the gazillion different Androids devices.
Make it a requirement to run 12.X and 15.X. Maybe i am missing something - but i thought that was the point of the universal feature?
No, there's one good reason: when important groups you belong to use WhatsApp to communicate.Zero reason to use WhatsApp. Get Telegram.
I'd suggest it's successful because it has such a high number of users. Because many people I know and groups I belong to use WhatsApp to communicate, WhatsApp becomes hard to bypass.WhatsApp is total trash.
It's successful simply because it works on so many trash phones.
The whole single-device limitation seems to come from the E2EE. There is a desktop app, but it relies on the phone app to be running and relaying the messages. Other E2EE chat apps have similar limitations. The one exception is iMessage, which must've worked around that in some complex way, at a cost: iMessage isn't very reliable. It's a little too common for one device to get messages out of order or for group chats to get out of sync.You have a point. Whatsapp is old. Whatsapp was conceived in the days where most people only have one smart device, the one smartphone. The main requirement of a phone device + a phone number speaks for itself. This is both a plus and minus. It's a Plus since it's a low barrier of entry in many markets, resulting whatsapp's huge userbase today. It's a minus since it's an antiquated system when users have multiple devices.
You forgot to mention “in my life”Zero reason to use WhatsApp. Get Telegram.
I have followed a Telegram channel two years ago and did nothing more with it.The nazi app? Really?