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WhatsApp to Roll Out Multi-Device Support, Hints at Future iPad App
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He pulls scumbag corporate moves, but his company is one of the world’s predominant revenue generators at this point. Millions of people are depending on you to have a family and to retire. No pressure! Try to be a little less extreme and more understanding if at all possible. Facebook is much more than just the social platform it appears to be.
I respect that. I’m not a fan either. But I had a computer science professor who changed my life who works for Facebook. I also have spoken to several passionate engineers who have spoken to me about the stack and what a privilege it was to work for the company. Both had a much different take—and a more reliable perspective—as to what the company was.
I’m not a fan of the platform, so I don’t use it, but the company is phenomenal and has put out some of the most ubiquitous open source projects on the planet and maintains them. You use React (asynchronous/reactive front-end components) virtually every time you use the web.
It’s easy to get angry at the companies and CEOs for being snaky, but the real place we should be taking these fights is by building and supporting alternatives. We’re not going to make Facebook not be Facebook; only they can do that.
Tin foil hat, really.
Reason, as I said in an earlier post, if they get caught they will get fined 10's of billions by the EU.
It's encrypted, fact, also a fact, I hate Facebook as much as many others, but, that doesn't mean I don't use my brains.
Nope, they will not use the key to unlock it here in the EU for monetary uses, pretty sure they wouldn't dare either in the states, except (maybe) when asked by the authorities.
Then it wouldn’t be end to end encryption but it is end to end encrypted. And whilst the app is not open source, the encryption protocol is. There is a certain amount of trust necesssary if you use the service, but they would not be blatently lying about the e2e encryption. It’s to easy to be found out and it would be a huge company ending issue. The metadata is still hugely profitable, but it’s unlikely to the point of impossible they have the keys to your chats.
Telegram is worst than WhatsApp in the sense of encryption. Telegram doesn't do end-to-end encryption by default, you have to specifically start a secret chat. On WhatsApp, end to end encryption is the default.
Because WhatsApp is a really old app (2009), when most people generally only had one smartphone, and the iPad was just rumours. Signal is a much newer app (2014).
I swapped to Signal, I still have Whatsapp but not being on the Mac where I spend 99% of time is deal breaker so it's Messages and Signal for me. Whatsapp is too late to the party and there's only a couple of people left on there that I need to contact.
Since when have fact and/or common sense prevented anybody from denigrating Facebook/Google/M$ on this forum?
What's app is fab, it's the go to cross platform messaging app at the moment.
Telegram and a few others saw some significant uptake straight after some recent news that got the privacy radars going, (I remember getting load and loads of notifications telling me loads of my contacts have joined), and since then two of those people have used it to message me on and even they have gone back to WhatsApp.
True, the messages on your device have the same encryption as Signal, which many consider to be the gold standard in security.
However, it should be noted that Facebook can/does use your metadata to learn more about you. Altough they don't know the specifics of your conversation, they know the "who/when/where" of your messages.
Also, your iCloud backup (if you enable it) is not encrypted and will be provided by Apple if they receive a supoena. Some big names in politics over the last year have been prosecuted this way (Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, etc).
I read some fuzzy details about the new WA privacy policy in terms of sharing info with businesses that you chat with. Something about the potential for a business to store some info on their own servers about your transaction, but not sure if that was more "FUD" than fact.
Because Signal has 1/100th the amount of developers and resources as WhatsApp 😉
The issue there is I imagine someone like myself who deleted their account when these new rules were brought into place will need to accept those rules if they were to setup an account again?
I would happily open a WhatsApp account again if I could do so based on the old privacy policy.
Now, that's even better, might have read that but forgot or I just didn't know.
<shrugs> Apple change their minds, I can see it happening here and I can see it happening regarding touch screens on Macs and further iPad+MacOS convergence.
I really don't think they're right here anyway. There are plenty messenger apps for people to use - tying iMessage to iOS just means people have to use others if so much as one of their contacts doesn't have an iPhone. Since you need multiple messages apps on iOS in what way does it tie you to the ecosystem? If iPhones are exclusively using one app it's unlikely to be iMessage.
Thats truly a non answer and literally the most epic excuse that could be given.
They manage to sync a web app and a desktop app 🤷♂️