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I remember spending hours in it just trying out themes
Someone even rolled out a super hacky patch with nib files to make the UI even more Mac OS X HIG compliant
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WhatsApp Working on Interoperability With Other Encrypted Messaging Apps
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I remember spending hours in it just trying out themes
Someone even rolled out a super hacky patch with nib files to make the UI even more Mac OS X HIG compliant
Again with the fear mongering. Danger danger! New market places on your iPhone, interoperability between messaging apps, … the horror. The only thing these companies want is to protect their interests. And you fall for it.
While the truth is that there’s nothing special about these messaging apps. They’re all more or less the same and could be interoperable like email, but now they lock you in. And there’s no way for a new startup to launch the perfect innovative messenger because no critical mass would migrate (the network effect). So they got you for life.
The EU knows pretty well what it’s doing. The problem is they don’t go far enough as companies are pretty creative with their malicious compliance. And some people fall for the propaganda of these companies.
Yes, the US still uses text messages and ... sms group chat ... and worries that their bubbles in iMessage aren't green... or was it blue, iForgot.
The whole rest of the world wonders why, on their working, cross platform chat apps.
Nah I did some work with that. It's a ****ing train wreck of a protocol and messaging system.
Nobody remembering the "people hub" from Windows Phone...
Email, texts, socials all under one roof... putting people first, not Apps...
obviously the other big tech companies didn't liked that and pulled the plug on APIs and all...
Email, texts, socials all under one roof... putting people first, not Apps...
obviously the other big tech companies didn't liked that and pulled the plug on APIs and all...
iChat 2.0, basically! I remember when it supported AIM, ICQ, MSN, and a bunch of other minor messaging protocols.
I think the really key difference here is how these companies manage privacy. Although I don’t know with advanced data protection, iMessages are not private. They had plans to encrypt it, but backed out due to complaints from the FBI. That’s why things have been silent on the topic since the San Bernardino shooting case. This was verified in an easy to find FBI leak that outlines how messages can be obtained from each receptive messaging app. Once they’re all on one standard, we have to adhere to that privacy level, which is likely equal to iMessage or worse. At that point it’s just perceived security.
I think email is a great point as to the sheer lack of innovation due to a required standard. Wouldn’t read receipts be nice? Even if it was only available for selected contacts? None of this pixel tracking sh*t. Even a thumbs up status on a message or something like that isn’t possible because you can’t vary off the standard. That’s before you dive into the sheer lack of privacy email provides for 99% of users.
In fact, almost every communication standard has almost no privacy: email, call records, SMS….if you want to sign up for that, enjoy. But don’t make me do it. If they’re all the same, there’s zero reason to pick one or the other. One chat company couldn’t add any new features because you’d have to get everyone else on board. And then who dictates what changes go through? Someone mentioned this would help new entrants….how? The f*ck they going to be able to add to a universal standard?
Whatsapp - not for a long time. Telegram, IMessage, Mail, SMS. and yes - phone calls are also possible...
that's how we kill innovation.
We probably won't see a new connector other than USB C for like decades.
Imagine if EU made Micro USB default port for all phones.
and everything should be open source.
corporations should invest in R&D, make it open source so that all the corporations and people benefit from it.
that's the plan.
you really think Google, and carriers are pushing Apple to use open standard for iMessages so that carriers and google can get the data,
Most messaging happens on either WhatsApp or iMessages.
Cariers and Google can get the data by forcing WhatsApp and iMessages to follow open standard.
It’s kind of mind blowing that a company sits in the largest messaging system in the world, and they cannot make a client that would make life easier. Even the color green of WhatsApp makes me sick and anxious.
It’s a mess. No way to split contacts in say, business and friends, no way to have a simple calendar… Meta’s business model seems to be to mess everything everywhere, so you have to rely on them, to be a messed up person.
It’s a mess. No way to split contacts in say, business and friends, no way to have a simple calendar… Meta’s business model seems to be to mess everything everywhere, so you have to rely on them, to be a messed up person.
Mee too but with this we can uninstall the WhatsApp and use iMessages or Telegram on iPhone and iPad.
Meta will lose with this EU decision. iMessages and Telegram are far better UX and iDevices integration.
and thus the Dictatorship beginns. Seriously what is that now forcing messagers to need to be able to talk to eachother. If u want whatsapp then download whatsapp. if u want telegram download telegram. now they force them to be able to send a message from whatsapp to telegram????? thats bs.
There is a big advantage of that EU ruling: If one Messenger starts putting ads between the messages, people can just use another one and keep their contacts. Right now you also have to convince the other person to switch to another messenger and most are too lazy to do that. Of course the EU has to make sure that ads will not be pushed to other messengers.
I wonder which messaging apps will request interoperability with Whatsapp? Have any come out publically to say that they will?
I will be happy to be able to text my contacts in WhatsApp through iMessages
No you wont. This requires Apple to actively seek out WhatsApp for interoperability. It‘s not an universal switch WhatsApp flicks, other platforms have to actively integrate with their solution (which Apple probably wont).
Is Apple out of this because iMessage is not big enough yet? I thought they were also included in this program
No, it‘s because the DMA forces you to provide ways for others to interop with your service, not forcing you to interconnect with other gatekeepers.
WhatsApp provides a way for others to interconnect with them, but Apple does not have to interconnect using their way.
Providing the ability to interoperate is mandatory for the gatekeepers. Actually making use of that interoperability is optional for the non-gatekeeper messaging services.
So there is a world in which WhatsApp provides interoperability but no other messaging service hooks into that.