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WhatsApp Working on Interoperability With Other Encrypted Messaging Apps

TimFL1 said:
No, it‘s because the DMA forces you to provide ways for others to interop with your service, not forcing you to interconnect with other gatekeepers.

WhatsApp provides a way for others to interconnect with them, but Apple does not have to interconnect using their way.
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But could WhatsApp request Apple the tools to interconnect with imessage?
 
jdavid_rp said:
But could WhatsApp request Apple the tools to interconnect with imessage?
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No, Apple has to actively want to connect with WhatsApp using the API WhatsApp provides.

iMessage is not classified as a gatekeeper, so iMessage has no obligation to open up their service (by providing a proprietary API of their own) to other services. That‘s probably the only way this ever happens: iMessage being classified as a gatekeeper and WhatsApp going out of their way to implement the API that Apple then provides (Apple probably wont ever interoperate with other services themselves).
 
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mrochester said:
No as iMessage has not been designated a gatekeeper.
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Even if they get classified, Apple probably wont use the tools WhatsApp provides and instead wait on WhatsApp to use their (Apples) proprietary solution to interconnect WhatsApp with iMessage instead.

Apple has nothing to gain from this other than WhatsApp, who can leech users away from Apple via interconnecting.
 
Sorinut said:
I, on the other hand, absolutely despise tech companies for locking down platforms..espeically messaging services. They should have been a common protocol, like email, from the beginning.

The less proprietary tech and software, the better...Across the board, no exceptions. Consumers > shareholders > companies.
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I agree in principle but it seems like we keep trying this and it keeps failing because the open standards groups have no money or programmers of their own, they're all funded by the industry companies anyway. We've had Richard Stallman screaming into the wilderness for forty years about open source software and standards and not losing root access to our hardware and software. Nobody with a neck beard less than a foot long seems to care.

Nobody is interested in supporting open standards because there's no money in it, and god knows the government isn't going to come up with and force good ones on their own, and there's nobody else to force it. Not that I want force in the first place, but the market doesn't seem able to do it on its own.

Not sure what the answer is.
 
Unregistered 4U said:
There would have to be a LOT more iPhones sold in the EU for iMessage to come anywhere near gatekeeper status. The EU would do good to limit the number of iPhones imported per year to control that.
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The number of iPhones is irrelevant, it’s the number of iMessage users that is important.
 
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mrochester said:
The number of iPhones is irrelevant, it’s the number of iMessage users that is important.
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Apple has already dodged a classification twice in the EU. What counts is business messaging revenue or monthly active users (not registered with iMessage, but sending at least one message a month), Apple sits below these thresholds in both departments in the EU.

They also proactively add support for RCS to calm down the EU (which probably wont change the EUs mind, since that doesn‘t fulfill the DMA).
 
mrochester said:
The number of iPhones is irrelevant, it’s the number of iMessage users that is important.
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Right, but iMessage on mobile phones is limited to the iPhone. If the EU wanted to restrict the potential damage caused by there being more iMessage users, one way to do that would be to restrict the number of iPhones imported. Keep the number of iPhones in the region low, and they’d also keep the number of iMessage users low.
 
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Right, but iMessage on mobile phones is limited to the iPhone. If the EU wanted to restrict the potential damage caused by there being more iMessage users, one way to do that would be to restrict the number of iPhones imported. Keep the number of iPhones in the region low, and they’d also keep the number of iMessage users low.
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I’m not sure how that benefits anyone.
 
.wojtek said:
Not having to deal with iMessage is a plus ;-)

I wouldn't mind if iMessage was available on other platforms (like other chat-app) but because it's Apple only then it's just utterly pointless...
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Seems to work fine for the people who use it.
 
Does anyone know which messaging apps are going to interoperate with WhatsApp and when this will be released?
 
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