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When can we expect Final Cut Studio 4?
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At this point, I would say it being 32-bit software counts as "broke." I'm just saying, it is easily, at this point, the most crufty, behind-the-times piece of software Apple sells.
Well, iTunes might be. But it's certainly the most legacy-code riddled piece of pro software they sell.
Here's what I expect to see:
-Native handling of more codecs.
-Full 64-bit, OpenCL enhanced recoding, using overhauled Quicktime X core instead of now-horribly-dated "Quicktime Classic" engine, resulting in 4-8x speed increases on the same hardware (assuming a Mac Pro).
-Slightly less clumsy integration between applications.
-Overhaul and/or removal of DVD Studio Pro in favor of something that is at least more modern, but preferably supports Blu-ray.
-Overhaul of compressor and particularly Qmaster to be less frigging buggy, sensitive, and opaque.
Here's what I want to see, but very much doubt will happen:
-Full 10 bit per channel color support, for those of us well-heeled or in advanced enough studios to use monitors with said support, which are now increasingly available from high-end manufacturers and definitely supported by Display port.
-Full Blu-ray support.
-Better surround sound support in Soundtrack, among other things.
Support for some of these things has to be baked right into the OS, which they've started moving towards, but it may require Lion or just not happen for the time being for that reason.
Well, iTunes might be. But it's certainly the most legacy-code riddled piece of pro software they sell.
Here's what I expect to see:
-Native handling of more codecs.
-Full 64-bit, OpenCL enhanced recoding, using overhauled Quicktime X core instead of now-horribly-dated "Quicktime Classic" engine, resulting in 4-8x speed increases on the same hardware (assuming a Mac Pro).
-Slightly less clumsy integration between applications.
-Overhaul and/or removal of DVD Studio Pro in favor of something that is at least more modern, but preferably supports Blu-ray.
-Overhaul of compressor and particularly Qmaster to be less frigging buggy, sensitive, and opaque.
Here's what I want to see, but very much doubt will happen:
-Full 10 bit per channel color support, for those of us well-heeled or in advanced enough studios to use monitors with said support, which are now increasingly available from high-end manufacturers and definitely supported by Display port.
-Full Blu-ray support.
-Better surround sound support in Soundtrack, among other things.
Support for some of these things has to be baked right into the OS, which they've started moving towards, but it may require Lion or just not happen for the time being for that reason.
AVID is still 32, even with 5.5 that was just released. Premier is the only one that's made the transition. And FCP will surely make it this week. I'm not saying your wrong, they're just not the only one.
QTkit will probably be replaced by AV Foundation archetecture, making it unnecessary for them to wait until Lion for these features. Hopefully.
I want many of the same things as the TheStrudel wants in the next version of Final Cut Studio, but I guess we'll see what happens. Call me a pessimist, but I predict the following is likely going happen and a lot pros won't like it:
1. Apple will move to a completely file-based workflow (i.e. the death of Log and Capture) and surely, it will piss off a lot of professional editors that would otherwise have to resort to 3rd-party capturing software to deal with tapes.
2. Blu-ray support will continue to be lacking. I think they will ignore DVD Studio Pro completely and continue to ship the same version they've been on for years. Steve Jobs thinks file-based content delivery is the way everything will go and somehow I doubt he'll change his mind. Heck, one of the only reasons I even boot into Windows is to use Blu-ray authoring software that will actually produce the proper BDCMF images that facilities require for pressed disc replication. NOTHING in OS X will do this, not even Adobe Encore. If Apple does indeed ship a new authoring app with fully standardized Blu-ray support, I will be pleasantly surprised. But I'm not holding my breath.
3. If Apple goes completely file-based with the new version of FCP, Cinema Tools will probably go away because then, there would then be no need for them to continue to support film conforming.
4. Color will go unchanged. Somehow, I don't think Apple is willing to exert the time and resources into rewriting this app. And this would also mean that a file-agnostic FCP would still require conforming to Quicktime to import projects into Color.
If enough of these things happen, I can only imagine there would be a strong following among working pros for "legacy" FCP, for obvious reasons. And perhaps a lot of them will jump ship to Adobe (some already have).
Don't get me wrong. I really do hope that Final Cut Studio continues to be a professional suite of software and doesn't get reduced to a prosumer toy. I really don't want it to be iMovie on steroids, if you know what I mean. I've made a career out of cutting in FCP and it'll be a sad day when I have to jump ship because Apple has lost touch. I'm nervously awaiting what gets unveiled at NAB, but according to insiders, it could be as far off as June before we see announcement from Apple.
1. Apple will move to a completely file-based workflow (i.e. the death of Log and Capture) and surely, it will piss off a lot of professional editors that would otherwise have to resort to 3rd-party capturing software to deal with tapes.
2. Blu-ray support will continue to be lacking. I think they will ignore DVD Studio Pro completely and continue to ship the same version they've been on for years. Steve Jobs thinks file-based content delivery is the way everything will go and somehow I doubt he'll change his mind. Heck, one of the only reasons I even boot into Windows is to use Blu-ray authoring software that will actually produce the proper BDCMF images that facilities require for pressed disc replication. NOTHING in OS X will do this, not even Adobe Encore. If Apple does indeed ship a new authoring app with fully standardized Blu-ray support, I will be pleasantly surprised. But I'm not holding my breath.
3. If Apple goes completely file-based with the new version of FCP, Cinema Tools will probably go away because then, there would then be no need for them to continue to support film conforming.
4. Color will go unchanged. Somehow, I don't think Apple is willing to exert the time and resources into rewriting this app. And this would also mean that a file-agnostic FCP would still require conforming to Quicktime to import projects into Color.
If enough of these things happen, I can only imagine there would be a strong following among working pros for "legacy" FCP, for obvious reasons. And perhaps a lot of them will jump ship to Adobe (some already have).
Don't get me wrong. I really do hope that Final Cut Studio continues to be a professional suite of software and doesn't get reduced to a prosumer toy. I really don't want it to be iMovie on steroids, if you know what I mean. I've made a career out of cutting in FCP and it'll be a sad day when I have to jump ship because Apple has lost touch. I'm nervously awaiting what gets unveiled at NAB, but according to insiders, it could be as far off as June before we see announcement from Apple.
Yep, Avid is broken, too. There's only so long a company can retain its industry-standard status through patchwork. I'm hoping that the strides that have been made by Adobe (and hopefully Apple, with the new version of FCS) will put the heat on (I imagine it already has).
well....
BluRay won´t happen. Apple is betting on the cloud and not on discs that are licensed by BluRay. And while 2 years ago I was pissed about that, now I understand the policy. My clients asked fo BluRay for a short period, now they are happy with files that can be played or streamed anywhere without need for a player.
I agree with CaptainChunk...Color won´t be touched. I also don´t expect them to move away from the old Quicktime yet. That will happen with Lion.
I believe the GUI will be totally overhauled. The bad: we will need to learn it again. The good: coming from Fast/Liquid and Edius I was shocked at first how clumsy FCP is as an editor. The full package is alright (but ancient right now), but the constant need to tell the program what I want to do is timeconsuming. I hope they adressed that. What I mean?
Example: When I hover the mouse over a clip it could swap from slide to roll mode just by the position of the mouse.
In iMovie the Sound editing is improved already......i hope we get a mix of the two in regards of GUI. The responsiveness of iMovie wouldn´t hurt.
BluRay won´t happen. Apple is betting on the cloud and not on discs that are licensed by BluRay. And while 2 years ago I was pissed about that, now I understand the policy. My clients asked fo BluRay for a short period, now they are happy with files that can be played or streamed anywhere without need for a player.
I agree with CaptainChunk...Color won´t be touched. I also don´t expect them to move away from the old Quicktime yet. That will happen with Lion.
I believe the GUI will be totally overhauled. The bad: we will need to learn it again. The good: coming from Fast/Liquid and Edius I was shocked at first how clumsy FCP is as an editor. The full package is alright (but ancient right now), but the constant need to tell the program what I want to do is timeconsuming. I hope they adressed that. What I mean?
Example: When I hover the mouse over a clip it could swap from slide to roll mode just by the position of the mouse.
In iMovie the Sound editing is improved already......i hope we get a mix of the two in regards of GUI. The responsiveness of iMovie wouldn´t hurt.
Egg Zachary!
With all the talk of BluRay, my corporate delivery is either DVD (because everyone has DVD players, but no-one has BR players and the AV guys can't stand them) or file for streaming or dropping in to a PPT.
Even if an HD file is large and requires a few minutes of buffering to DL, that is nothing to waiting around to get a disc in the mail and then trying to find a BR player to play it on.
If Apple delivers a CDN as well, it's game over.
Wha...? June 20th is the outside date to meet the stated RELEASE window of "Spring". Tomorrow is their big reveal, and I'm certain we'll have LOTS to digest. What other announcement will you be waiting for?
I could be wrong about that. There was a pre-NAB panel (I'll have to dig up the link) with a bunch of editors that was posted last week and one of the panelists was invited to Apple to preview FCP 8. He also said "Spring", but he also said that to Apple, that means anywhere from now to June 20th.
I guess I'm just hearing a bunch of mixed information...
This is all the info there is:
At the February event, apparently a "Spring" release timeframe was mentioned. Mark at the preNAB editors' lounge repeated the same info, elaborating that could mean anytime between now and June 20th [which is the last day of Spring]. I doubt there will be any other Event for FCP besides this, other than perhaps a N.A. roadshow like they've done in the past.
I hope 'Log and Capture' doesn't disappear, because it isn't just used for tapes, it's used to capture from live sources such as Blackmagic cards and studios (a local BBC studio i work for uses 'Log and Capture' to record live shows). Yes Blackmagic and co provide software that'll do that too, but the FCP route was always far simpler.
Still just, "June". So it's between 2 weeks and 6 weeks away.
My own personal belief is that Apple isn't thinking about anything right now except WWDC from June 6-10th. That's all about iOS5 and OSX 10.7 Lion.
I think it's VERY likely any further info or release will come after WWDC is finished. And I'm certainly not discounting the idea it won't be released until June 30th. If Apple isn't specific, they make take all the time allotted.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but we'll see...
My own personal belief is that Apple isn't thinking about anything right now except WWDC from June 6-10th. That's all about iOS5 and OSX 10.7 Lion.
I think it's VERY likely any further info or release will come after WWDC is finished. And I'm certainly not discounting the idea it won't be released until June 30th. If Apple isn't specific, they make take all the time allotted.
Hopefully I'm wrong, but we'll see...
June 7th and still nothing?
I am so sick of DVD Studio Pro. I swear it looks the same as it originally did. I am crossing multiple fingers, hoping I will not be disappointed. My list includes:
1. Better integration of motion, color, and soundtrack.
2. Better surround support.
3. More native editing.
4. Oh, and I know this one is kinda stupid, but I would really like a fresh batch of widescreen DVD Studio templates for when I am feeling lazy...
I am so sick of DVD Studio Pro. I swear it looks the same as it originally did. I am crossing multiple fingers, hoping I will not be disappointed. My list includes:
1. Better integration of motion, color, and soundtrack.
2. Better surround support.
3. More native editing.
4. Oh, and I know this one is kinda stupid, but I would really like a fresh batch of widescreen DVD Studio templates for when I am feeling lazy...
Some companies sell DVD Studio Pro templates. Unless you've bought all there is available, which I doubt, you still have options.