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When is 3.1 update official

ct2k7 said:
Law, is a generic term, but it does have a stem in:

binding or enforceable rule: a rule of conduct or procedure recognized by a community as binding or enforceable
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True, but there's an obvious difference between a "law" by AT&T and a federal law. An big difference.
 
STEVESKI07 said:
There is no law specifically stating that tethering an iphone on AT&T is illegal. I figured by everything else I was saying I made that clear, but maybe you need exact words. You would be violating the TOS in the contract that you signed. If taken to court, you could be punished (money, not jail time <----READ), for breaching a contract. Now this would most likely never happen, but technically it is possible if you ticked off AT&T as much as you tick me off. Now can you please go on with your life.
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Reading through all that he said to you, I don't see the reason for you to be so angry. Irritated, perhaps, but not angry. Cool down. Besides, all this tethering nonsense has been discussed/argued in another length thread. There's really no reason to start it all over again, IMO.
 
Isn't breaching a contract to use data you haven't or aren't paying for illegal?:rolleyes: More or less "stealing". Which you can look up yourself because that is breaking a law.
 
The General said:
It's just irritating when these sheep post this nonsense about jailbreaking, unlocking and tethering being "illegal." I just want to know which law I'm breaking. Really, that's all I want to know.

Now, which law am I breaking?
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Jailbreaking is likely a violation of the DMCA. The EFF is actually trying to get an exception approved to specifically allow jailbreaking.

I believe unlocking is currently legal. I think there is a DMCA exemption for unlocking.

Tethering is illegal on AT&T because it is a violation of their terms of service. Violating a legal contract is illegal according to contract law.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/business/contract_law.html
 
BaldiMac said:
Jailbreaking is likely a violation of the DMCA. The EFF is actually trying to get an exception approved to specifically allow jailbreaking.

I believe unlocking is currently legal. I think there is a DMCA exemption for unlocking.

Tethering is illegal on AT&T because it is a violation of their terms of service. Violating a legal contract is illegal according to contract law.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/business/contract_law.html
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Thank you. If only I could have spit that out in the first post this could have all been avoided.
 
BaldiMac said:
Jailbreaking is likely a violation of the DMCA. The EFF is actually trying to get an exception approved to specifically allow jailbreaking.

I believe unlocking is currently legal. I think there is a DMCA exemption for unlocking.

Tethering is illegal on AT&T because it is a violation of their terms of service. Violating a legal contract is illegal according to contract law.

http://www.expertlaw.com/library/business/contract_law.html
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Thank you.
 
STEVESKI07 said:
And show me which post I stated that tethering breaks a federal law?
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Show me which post I stated that tethering on an iPhone was a federal law?

I'm just stating that there is a difference between a federal law and a law/rule/contract set by AT&T.



Tethering on an iPhone through AT&T is a breach of contract, yes. Whether or not you choose to interpret that as "illegal" or not, is up to you. Will it result in negative results if you're caught? Yes, it will. Is it illegal on a state or federal level? That's debatable.

"Violating a legal contract is illegal according to contract law." Yes, it is. It's not a direct violation of a law set by the state, or a federal law. That's just the distinction that I'm trying to make.
 
pelicanflip said:
Tethering on an iPhone through AT&T is a breach of contract, yes. Whether or not you choose to interpret that as "illegal" or not, is up to you.
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It is not an opinion. Breach of a legal contract is illegal.

Will it result in negative results if you're caught? Yes, it will. Is it illegal on a state or federal level? That's debatable.
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Contract law is codified at a state and federal level.

"Violating a legal contract is illegal according to contract law." Yes, it is. It's not a direct violation of a law set by the state, or a federal law. That's just the distinction that I'm trying to make.
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It is a direct violation of state and federal laws that deal with contracts. There is no distinction to make.
 
STEVESKI07 said:
I'm done wasting my time posting to you. You remind me of my girlfriend back in early high school. You hear one word (illegal) that upsets you and no matter how I justify it and explain myself what I meant, you still keep hearing that one word and ignore everything else that's being said. Good luck to you.
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Illegal = against the LAW. A breach of contract with a company is not "illegal".
 
You should rename this thread title to "ILLEGAL: What it REALLY means". Then hopefully it will get moved to a relevant section. F*cking Christ.
 
What is 3.1?!

STEVESKI07 said:
So your biggest reason for needing an iphone is a feature that it doesn't have? Sounds like you made a poor purchase. You could have bought a different, cheaper phone and legally used tethering.
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The greatest part of the general going on his rant was the fact that you never stated tethering was illegal. You said to, and I am paraphrasing, "buy a different, cheaper phone and legally use tethering." He inferred from your statement that tethering was illegal. And thus it began....:D
 
Silly me...thought I'd come into a thread about the imminent release of 3.1 only to see retarded arguments over the meaning of "illegal"
 
I had an idea. I have a feeling that officially 3.1 will be out in mid-September with the iPod touch 3rd Gen. Here's why.

A history of iPhone OS releases:

1.0 June 29, 2007
1.1 September 14, 2007
1.1.1 September 27, 2007
1.1.2 November 12, 2007
1.1.3 January 15, 2008

2.0 July 11, 2008
2.1 September 12, 2008
2.2 November 21, 2008
2.2.1 January 27, 2009

So as history suggests we'll see updates like this:

3.0 June 17, 2009
3.0.1 July 31, 2009
3.1 September 15, 2009
3.1.1 November 24, 2009
3.2 January 26, 2010

4.0 June 8, 2010

Of course... this is all speculation but it could give you an idea of Apple's usual release schedule.
 
TheSpaz said:
I had an idea. I have a feeling that officially 3.1 will be out in mid-September with the iPod touch 3rd Gen. Here's why.

3.0 June 17, 2009
3.0.1 July 31, 2009
3.1 September 15, 2009
3.1.1 November 24, 2009
3.2 January 26, 2010
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i will revise yours because 3.0.1 doesnt really count as an update, its only once change. and its not visual to the user.


heres what i think

3.0 June 17, 2009
3.0.1 July 31, 2009
3.1 August 11, 2009
3.1.1 September 15, 2009
3.2 November 17, 2009
 
TheSpaz said:
I had an idea. I have a feeling that officially 3.1 will be out in mid-September with the iPod touch 3rd Gen. Here's why.

A history of iPhone OS releases:

1.0 June 29, 2007
1.1 September 14, 2007
1.1.1 September 27, 2007
1.1.2 November 12, 2007
1.1.3 January 15, 2008

2.0 July 11, 2008
2.1 September 12, 2008
2.2 November 21, 2008
2.2.1 January 27, 2009

So as history suggests we'll see updates like this:

3.0 June 17, 2009
3.0.1 July 31, 2009
3.1 September 15, 2009
3.1.1 November 24, 2009
3.2 January 26, 2010

4.0 June 8, 2010

Of course... this is all speculation but it could give you an idea of Apple's usual release schedule.
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Jan 26 for 3.2. No way. That far away for a 3.2. Maybe in November.
 
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