When MBP 2018 come out, will you buy immediately?

[hajime]

Knowing that there are issues with the current keyboard, will you buy immediately?

I am concerned that if I buy immediately and later discover that the new keyboard also has some problems, even Apple is willing to repair for free for 4 years, I will be unhappy about it.

 

[leman]

Then you should be waiting for a year or more at least two month is not enough.

 

[torana355]

ill be waiting for feedback on the keyboard before i buy one.

 

[Denmac1]

I bought a 2015 MBP refurb. Right price, right amount of ports. I'll consider something else in 3-4 years when it goes 'Vintage'. Oh, but it will still probably work, just like my 2006 G5 tower.
I guess at one point, that Apple doesn't update as often because we love our 'Vintage' machines, 'cuz they just work.....

 

[hajime]

Then you should be waiting for a year or more at least two month is not enough.

My MBP 17" 2010 is about 3KG. Got pain carrying it along with other stuffs.

 

[throAU]

I'll be waiting at least 6-12 months. Assuming it has things i want.

Mostly because of the keyboard issue.
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My MBP 17" 2010 is about 3KG. Got pain carrying it along with other stuffs.

And that determines how long you need to be sure the keyboard issue is fixed, how exactly?

 

[Schranke]

considering my 2017 15" is 3 months old I will not be upgrading.
I am pretty sure that apple will speak about the keyboard how it is improved and whatnot if they have made any changes at all, if they haven't they will not mention it with a word and just silently add the new model to the repair program.

Personally I expect some changes to the keyboard and that they have made it compatible with the current machines so that after the unveil, machine coming in through the repair program would get a new keyboard which I less prone to failure

 

[Falhófnir]

I will wait at least a full quarter of availability to see what the keyboard situation is, and I think it will depend on what configurations they have available at what prices - I don’t care about a dGPU but I want a 15” screen and 512GB storage and if I’m going USB C I’d preferably still have 4 of them so I always have a couple available even when plugged in. Considering the HP spectre with comparable specs (including 4K display) can be had for £1,699 and I don’t really like wasting money I don’t think I will be paying much over £2k for it either so it will have to retain the 2015s current £1,899 starting price or lower.

 

[afir93]

I'll be buying immediately. The wait has been long enough. If I'm gonna buy a 2018 one anyway sooner or later then there's no point in waiting for reviews to to give an insight into whether the keyboard issues have been fixed, I'd just be missing out for longer.

 

[Hater]

Depends if there is a 32GB option or not.

Probably hold onto my 2012 if there isn't as I won't be able to get 1TB SSD + 5TB HDD in a new one. I don't want to have to start using external drives for raw footage I haven't got to yet.

 

[UBS28]

If it has a 6 core CPU, then I will make the jump.

 

[Ezcompane]

I voted to wait a few weeks, but in reality I will probably order as soon as they're up. My 5 year old Air is starting to show it's age so I think it's time to jump back into a Pro after looking at some of the Retina screens.

 

[maflynn]

It really depends on what Apple does with the 2018 model. A spec bump with zero mention of an updated keyboard, I may wait. A mentioned of a third generation butterfly keyboard, I'll probably wait a little less time then a spec bump. A return to the scissor keyboard mechanism, I'll buy immediately.

If I was a betting man, I'd expect my first guess, a spec bump without any mention.

 

[hajime]

For 2016-17 keyboards, what is the average number of months before issues start showing up?

 

[afir93]

For 2016-17 keyboards, what is the average number of months before issues start showing up?

The thing is, we as the public don't have anywhere near the necessary statistics to put an average number to that, we only have anecdotal posts and reports that are hard to go on. And there are of course also many factors that are hard to accommodate for, for example people in dusty or dirty environments might naturally have more failures than those who do not. I don't think the average is anywhere below at least several months for the people wo did have issues (so without factoring in everyone who successfully owns one without any issues), but again, any precise guess is going to be mostly speculation.

 

[hajime]

The thing is, we as the public don't have anywhere near the necessary statistics to put an average number to that, we only have anecdotal posts and reports that are hard to go on. And there are of course also many factors that are hard to accommodate for, for example people in dusty or dirty environments might naturally have more failures than those who do not. I don't think the average is anywhere below at least several months for the people wo did have issues (so without factoring in everyone who successfully owns one without any issues), but again, any precise guess is going to be mostly speculation.

So, if we wait for a few months to find out, it will be waiting for MBP 2019.

 

[Fishrrman]

Anyone who buys a 2018 MacBook Pro immediately after release is takin' a big chance.
...UNLESS they release it with the old-style (non-butterfly) keyboard again!

 

[afir93]

Anyone who buys a 2018 MacBook Pro immediately after release is takin' a big chance.
...UNLESS they release it with the old-style (non-butterfly) keyboard again!

I'd rather take that chance instead of waiting who knows how long past-release, to be honest. I mean there's still warranty, the possibility of purchasing AppleCare, and the exchange program (which, if issues do persist with new models, might expanded to the new models aswell). And even with current models there's a good chance that you never run into any issues. So the odds aren't that bad.

 

[bluecoast]

My next MB will be a MB ARM...

...Or it might be an iPad with trackpad support.

Mainly because I bought a MBP in 3017.

Fingers crossed for those with old machines who want to buy a proper new pro machine with a keyboard that works properly, that Apple see sense this year.

 

[rjbruce]

For 2016-17 keyboards, what is the average number of months before issues start showing up?

I have two 2017 MBPs, one is a personal device (13") that I've had for about a year, the other is my work device (15") that I've had since October. I use that laptop about 10+ hours a day 5+ days a week and I don't have any issues with the keyboard. Maybe it will show more wear over time, but suspect I've stressed it as much as anyone. I'm not in the market for a new MBP, but I wouldn't hesitate for keyboard concerns.

I actually really like the keyboard. It took a little bit to get used to, but now it feels strange typing on standard laptop keyboards.

 

[RobbieTT]

My 2009 13" MBP cannot live forever but I would miss the port selection and seamless TM backups on to the micro SD card.

Rather fond of this keyboard too, even after 9 years of my fingers and thumbs.

 

[nudoru]

If it has the 6 core i7 then I'll get it immediately. I need a new laptop and am on the fence between an updated 15" pro and a Dell XPS.

 

[hajime]

If it has the 6 core i7 then I'll get it immediately. I need a new laptop and am on the fence between an updated 15" pro and a Dell XPS.

One concern I have is that as far as I read, all Windows laptops with 6-core 8th gen have heat issues.

 

[clangers23]

13" quad core with a revised keyboard and I'm in. I don't actually mind the butterfly keyboard just a revised one that doesn't succumb to dust or crumbs and doesn't require a can of compressed air.
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One concern I have is that as far as I read, all Windows laptops with 6-core 8th gen have heat issues.

Just bought an XPS 9570 it's been fine so far, no sign of the dreaded throttling. I've had three successive XPS 15 models and it's the first that I haven't immediately under-volted or reapplied the thermal paste to...so far. I may have been lucky after checking the web. Dell's QC is very variable. I'm still going to under-volt and may apply thermal paste anyway.

I've still replaced the PCIe SSD and wireless card straight away (Intel 9260 for Killer Wifi).

I suspect Dell have been very cautious with the CPU thermal profile this time around.

Basically a great laptop if you accept you're probably going to have to tinker!

I was going to buy a Razer Blade 15" but the XPS was going cheap.

 

[Newtons Apple]

Unless the keyboard design has changed, I would never buy another MBPro.