When to complain?

[MJedi]

If you've been reading the forums recently, obviously there is an issue with restoring from an older ipad. what's the harm in trying? There's a reason why people are saying that

For me when ever i get a new iOS device or laptop i always set it up as new. Not stupid at all. To me it kinda ruins the the whole "NEW" factor.

God forbid you might have to install a few apps, and put some music/pics back in there manually, wouldn't want you to hurt your finger now....

I can see the benefit of setting it up as a "new" iPad instead of restoring. However, there is currently no OFFICIAL way to restore saved games or application settings from your previous iPad. iCloud was supposed to provide this function, but app developers have not implemented this feature, AFAIK. Maybe if you don't care about starting over in Angry Birds and loosing all your 3-star ratings. Or setting up each and every app again to your preference.

I emphasized OFFICIAL because if you jailbreak your iPad, you can restore application settings and saves using one of several apps from Cydia. But then, there is currently no publicly available jailbreak method for the new iPad, so you're SOL.

 

[davedvdy]

I can see the benefit of setting it up as a "new" iPad instead of restoring. However, there is currently no OFFICIAL way to restore saved games or application settings from your previous iPad. iCloud was supposed to provide this function, but app developers have not implemented this feature, AFAIK. Maybe if you don't care about starting over in Angry Birds and loosing all your 3-star ratings. Or setting up each and every app again to your preference.

I emphasized OFFICIAL because if you jailbreak your iPad, you can restore application settings and saves using one of several apps from Cydia. But then, there is currently no publicly available jailbreak method for the new iPad, so you're SOL.

Actually all of my game data came back when I restored from my iPad 2 iCloud back up.

 

[Wrathwitch]

If you've been reading the forums recently, obviously there is an issue with restoring from an older ipad. what's the harm in trying? There's a reason why people are saying that

For me when ever i get a new iOS device or laptop i always set it up as new. Not stupid at all. To me it kinda ruins the the whole "NEW" factor.

God forbid you might have to install a few apps, and put some music/pics back in there manually, wouldn't want you to hurt your finger now....

I agree with this and set mine up from new simply because I would have to update all of the apps anyways which were at the time being updated by the developers to benefit the resolution change. My battery life is just as good with the new iPad as with my iPad originale. I charge it once per week and play zynga poker on it all week, watch some streaming TV, news feeds etc.

 

[MJedi]

Actually all of my game data came back when I restored from my iPad 2 iCloud back up.

Isn't that, therefore, restoring the iPad from a backup as well? (Instead of the backup coming from your iTunes, it comes from your iCloud.) As opposed to setting it up as a new iPad?

 

[ZipZap]

Actually, it's not stupid at all. Restoring from an iPad 2 can cause major battery issues. I'm not exactly sure why, but I've read numerous posts about it. Something to do with the battery sizes being different and the way the 2 iPads handle battery drain.

This is the answer. I would restore as a new 3. Then re-setup. I would never use a backup from a dissimilar model. Apple is the worst at making this work. Check out the MBA and MBP threads and you will see.

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So the official Apple "policy" says nothing about setting it up from scratch, and that it should be able to run around 9-10 hours watching a movie. So my 6 hours are indeed a problem...

When restoring from an iPad 2 it merely copies the Apps, their settings, mail etc. I don't think it copies the power settings, and the architecture is the same, so why would it make a difference. I will try (it is after all easy to restore), and see what happens.

I usually have it set at 30-50% brightness. With the new iPad the screen is more bright, and I can use it at a lower brightness than the iPad 2.

Unless your opinion is because you are an Apple engineer.....the experiences of others point to this being a bad idea.

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For simple troubleshooting, it shouldn't be too hard to backup the iPad, restore it as new, watch the movies/check the battery life. If it's noticably different, then you have to make some decisions as how you want to proceed. But if it's no different, then you can just restore it from the last good backup.

Excellent idea!

 

[matbook101]

You expect 10 hours out of video? HAHA, the 10 hours is for absolutely minimal brightness, nothing installed, and just scrolling in an already loaded page on safari. Your battery for video is absolutely normal.

 

[G77]

You expect 10 hours out of video? HAHA, the 10 hours is for absolutely minimal brightness, nothing installed, and just scrolling in an already loaded page on safari. Your battery for video is absolutely normal.

No, there is no problem to see 10 hours of video playing on 50% brightness with default video player. Check the reviews.... 610 minutes of video playback (macworld)

 

[/user/me]

No, there is no problem to see 10 hours of video playing on 50% brightness with default video player. Check the reviews.... 610 minutes of video playback (macworld)

That's more than 10, so theoretically, you could have 1.5 times that, or possibly double if you're not doing anything intensive?

 

[Irishman]

always set up as new!

Will that not make it more difficult to bring over app and media purchases from iTunes?

 

[G77]

That's more than 10, so theoretically, you could have 1.5 times that, or possibly double if you're not doing anything intensive?

Playing in default video player is not so intensive - there is special HW acceleration chip in iOS devices that is very energy efficient for playing h264 video in MP4 format - its not much more intensive than surfing the web etc... This is also the reason why MP4 is only supported format in iTunes.

With alternative video players and formats it is completely different situation - you are playing directly via processor and using much more energy - I think this is OPs problem.

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always set up as new!

I have never set up as new (i am on my 4th iPhone and 2nd iPad) without single problem. Ability to quickly migrate whole data from device to device is one of the greatest features of iOS so please dont spread this FUD.

 

[Killerbob]

I have never set up as new (i am on my 4th iPhone and 2nd iPad) without single problem. Ability to quickly migrate whole data from device to device is one of the greatest features of iOS so please dont spread this FUD.

I absolutely agree! I am a Machead, and have been through several generation changes. iPhones, iPads, MacBooks, etc. and OSX and IOS are exactly so popular because you can just keep using the "same installation".

I have never had any problems, and I have used a MacBook Air profile on my MacBook Pro, as well as generations of iPhones/iPads.

The problem I think may be related to the fact I am using Azul for playing my films. I didn't know that made a difference, and I do think the iPad "3" battery life is worse than on the iPad 2. Perhaps I have a dud, I will talk to Apple support.

Bo

 

[G77]

The problem I think may be related to the fact I am using Azul for playing my films. I didn't know that made a difference, and I do think the iPad "3" battery life is worse than on the iPad 2. Perhaps I have a dud, I will talk to Apple support.

Bo

That may be the problem. It also depends on what type of file are you playing - some of the alternative players can use HW acceleration with MP4 files, i dont know about Azul.

Video playback time is worse with new iPad as macworld review shows - they were able to get 800 minutes of video playback with iPad 2 and 610 minutes of video playback with iPad 3. But still you should be able get 10 hours of playback with native video player.

 

[MJedi]

If you've been reading the forums recently, obviously there is an issue with restoring from an older ipad. what's the harm in trying? There's a reason why people are saying that

For me when ever i get a new iOS device or laptop i always set it up as new. Not stupid at all. To me it kinda ruins the the whole "NEW" factor.

God forbid you might have to install a few apps, and put some music/pics back in there manually, wouldn't want you to hurt your finger now....

So I gave this a shot. It took a few hours to re-sync the apps and media (and it DID hurt my finger. ) But, I now have a "clean installed" iPad.

And the verdict... the battery life is the same compared to when the new iPad was restored from an iPad 2 backup. It's still poor compared to my iPad 2. I'm thinking of exchanging it, since I have already tried the clean install method.

 

[ewo1992]

IMO, having PUSH enabled uses more battery as the device has to maintain an continuous data connection, vs FETCH, where it creates a data connection on an interval that only lasts for a few seconds.

If you look at how Apple ran the tests that they base their battery life on, it specifically states that their test unit was set to only fetch mail once an hour.

http://www.apple.com/ipad/specs/

Even if you have it off it still has the connection, where the drain comes from is whenever an email is pushed.