What if we got a limited run of the 1st generation iPhone remade with modern internals (probably except wireless charging due to the aluminum back). That would be nice and I would definitely get one
I always stood by the fact that the Air wasn’t supposed to be a yearly update. Hence why they called it Air without tying it to the 17 series. They wanted flexibility in when to do it all along.
Pretty sure they’ll release another. And in 5 years time when enough improvements have been made it will be the standard model.
A 5 min google search would tell you none of that is true. Your iphone 13 is 174grams while the Air is 165grams. While having a 6.1 screen vs 6.5 inch screen. Huge difference. I can see knocking lack of features but its form factor? Cmon now. Why exaggerate to prove a point when its false?The real problem with the iPhone Air is that it is not truly 'Air', while also asking people to sacrifice features.
The iPhone Air is not light, it weighs just as much as my current iPhone 13 (which I have named 'Chunky' due to its weight).
Most of that weight is in the battery.
Invest the resources in tuning the operating system similar to the millions they spent tuning responsiveness of iPadOS to the Apple Pencil.
Then give us a smaller battery, saving weight.
That also frees up room for more cameras, minimizing the sacrifice for the lighter weight.
That would be a much better product.
-R
First of all, the Air is indeed lighter than your 13 (165 vs. 174 gr.) while - more importantly - having a much bigger display.
And secondly, have you held an Air yet? It feels a lot lighter still than the numbers would suggest because the weight is distributed over a larger area. It is a very pronounced psychological effect, same as with the latest, super-thin iPads Pro.
A 5 min google search would tell you none of that is true. Your iphone 13 is 174grams while the Air is 165grams.
While having a 6.1 screen vs 6.5 inch screen. Huge difference.
I can see knocking lack of features but its form factor? Cmon now. Why exaggerate to prove a point when its false?
Have you felt a 9 gram weight? It's miniscule. That's less than a 6% reduction in weight from the iPhone 13, not notable.
The screen is not 'much bigger', it's only 0.4 inches. Pull out a ruler and look at how large half an inch is, this is less of a change, and less than 7% larger, that's not 'much bigger'. For practical purposes it's not beneficial.
No, not held one yet. It might be a good psychological effect with regards to dynamic handling (moment of inertia), but try holding one statically for five minutes while watching a video or reading a long article and see if that's still a notable difference. I am very skeptical it will be notable.
The Air weighs 1/3 of a pound less than your 13.The real problem with the iPhone Air is that it is not truly 'Air', while also asking people to sacrifice features.
The iPhone Air is not light, it weighs just as much as my current iPhone 13 (which I have named 'Chunky' due to its weight).
The Mini didn't sell well in part due it its smaller battery.Most of that weight is in the battery.
Silicon batteries are lighter while being more power-dense.Invest the resources in tuning the operating system similar to the millions they spent tuning responsiveness of iPadOS to the Apple Pencil.
Then give us a smaller battery, saving weight.
That also frees up room for more cameras, minimizing the sacrifice for the lighter weight.
That would be a much better product.
-R
Whether or not the Air 2 sells better really depends on what hardware upgrades Apple gives it. But right now it is impossible for anyone to claim that it will be a success or a failure.Apple's bar for releasing the iPhone Air 2 is the bottom of the barrel!
Even Gurman acknowledges that it's going to flop like the original Air.
You miscalculated here. The display area of the Air is 16% larger than that of the 13.
You should really try it if you happen to pass by an Apple store one day. It is quite surprising.
Counter point, the ProMax is around .5" larger than the equivalent Pro and most people can tell the difference.I didn't miscalculate, you are citing a completely different measure. I cited the linear diagonal screen size that is used as the descriptive size. Area is a completely different measure and can be misleading.
For practical purposes what is the improvement in viewable height or width of content? For width it's less than 8%, for height it's 8%, neither is a notable difference, and shows that the diagonal size difference of less than 7% is a good proxy, certainly better than area.
The Air weighs 1/3 of a pound less than your 13.
Huge? That's less than 7% larger. Pull out a ruler and look at how big half an inch is not. The difference is less than that, which is not practical.
Counter point, the ProMax is around .5" larger than the equivalent Pro and most people can tell the difference.
As a couple of commenters suggested the smaller flip phone could be attractive. Fold the Air in half like a clam shell. Prioritising the smaller flip over the larger fold is my preference 2026.
Your math is wrong. Total screen area in square inches (height and width) of the iPhone 13 (6.06 inch screen...18.36 square inches) vs the iPhone Air (6.55 inch screen...21.45 square inches) is 16.82% larger screen size.
No, my math is not wrong, you are citing a completely different measure. I cited the linear diagonal screen size that is used as the descriptive size. Area is a completely different measure and can be misleading.
For practical purposes what is the improvement in viewable height or width of content? For width it's less than 8%, for height it's 8%, neither is a notable difference, and shows that the diagonal size difference of less than 7% is a good proxy, certainly better than area.
Viewable height of content is what truly matters for most and that is merely an 8% improvement over the 13, not meaningful.
-R
I think you just answered your own question. The iPhone Air is most definitely at least 20% lighter than the alternative, the iPhone 17 Pro (almost 30% lighter than the Pro Max). As you admit, that is absolutely deserving of the Air moniker. The iPhone 13 is so old, with such poor battery life, slower LTE, inferior silicon, etc, that comparing it to the Air is just silly.Yea, a negligible difference of less than 6%.
The MacBook Air is over 20% lighter than a MacBook Pro, a real difference and worthy of the 'Air' moniker. That is the standard which the iPhone Air does not meet.
Huge? That's less than 7% larger. Pull out a ruler and look at how big half an inch is not. The difference is less than that, which is not practical.
I believe you are the one exaggerating, unless you feel that less than 7% is a large increase, I think most people would think 7% is not notable.
-R
Area is a completely different measure and can be misleading.
I think you just answered your own question. The iPhone Air is most definitely at least 20% lighter than the alternative, the iPhone 17 Pro (almost 30% lighter than the Pro Max).
The real problem with the iPhone Air is that it is not truly 'Air', while also asking people to sacrifice features.
The iPhone Air is not light, it weighs just as much as my current iPhone 13 (which I have named 'Chunky' due to its weight).
Most of that weight is in the battery.
Invest the resources in tuning the operating system similar to the millions they spent tuning responsiveness of iPadOS to the Apple Pencil.
Then give us a smaller battery, saving weight.
That also frees up room for more cameras, minimizing the sacrifice for the lighter weight.
That would be a much better product.
-R