iPhone XS When will iPhone cameras come close to this?

[I7guy]

To improve performance, that was crippled in iOS 11. Nice one.

Do you know why android doesn't feature battery health status? Because :
- android doesn't throttle down the cpu when batteries get old
- because they don't shut down unexpected
- because no one with an android phone gives a damn for the battery health, because they don't need to.

Stop with the misinformation.

iOS 12 was a general release to improve performance that includes phones as old as the 5s. It has nothing to do with iOS 11 and everything to do with reworking some stuff from the ground up.

Android doesn’t throttle you’re right. The phones just die as iPhones used to do. With iPhones you know when the battery is aged and you have a choice.

 

[johny328i]

I had an iPhone 5s when it was flagship. It doesn't run half as good now, when it used to back in the days.

Improved performance, my a##.

 

[pika2000]

90% of the job of a VP like Craig Federighi is to ensure resources are available and assigned according to strategic priorities.

According to Apple, the top three iOS 12 features were:

1. Performance
2. FaceTime
3. Messages

Camera was #9.

Either Craig didn't see camera features as important, or the software engineering team is poor at executing.

In hindsight, the context here was the epic mess called iOS11. So no doubt performance is put first, and with issues in Group facetime and etc, no doubt those are next.

But don't forget, iOS12 brings software bokeh for the iPhone XR right off the gate, where previously, the only iPhones capable of doing that were the ones with dual cameras. This might seem simple as it doesn't "add" any new feature, but that's the typical beauty of Apple. From the user perspective, it just "works."
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To improve performance, that was crippled in iOS 11. Nice one.

Do you know why android doesn't feature battery health status? Because :
- android doesn't throttle down the cpu when batteries get old
- because they don't shut down unexpected
- because no one with an android phone gives a damn for the battery health, because they don't need to.

Oh yes they do. As a safety measure, a device has to shut itself down if there's something wrong with its highly explosive battery. And yeah, I have had multiple Android phones, from my Nexus 5, HTC One M7, and Sony Xperia Z1 (all flagships as well, mind you) that suffers battery issues. And so did my iPhone 6S. The difference is that I got my battery on my 6S replaced for free by Apple, twice, even out of warranty, while none of those Android companies even acknowledged there's a problem, and refused support for my phones.

 

[decafjava]

I wonder if there are any objective tests to see what old devices did - shut down and when and throttle and when?

 

[pika2000]

I had an iPhone 5s when it was flagship. It doesn't run half as good now, when it used to back in the days.

Improved performance, my a##.

The 5S was released in 2013, and the fact that you still use it means it's actually still usable.
Samsung Galaxy S4 was released in 2013 as well. Go find one person who still uses that (or want to), and ask about its performance.

 

[johny328i]

I've had like 10 different android in the past till today, and have NEVER ever experienced a shutdown. And it was never, and still isn't an issue in the android world.


Luckily enough, back when I had an iPhone 5, there was a huge batch of shutting down 5s (s as multiple), my didn't shutdown.

But today you see for yourself in the forum all the topics complaining about shutdowns and battery health concerns on iPhones.

I'm not using a 5s anymore. And galaxy s4 is one generation older than 5s. You can compare it the same way with S5. And yes - people still use them.

 

[pika2000]

I've had like 10 different android in the past till today, and have NEVER ever experienced a shutdown. And it was never, and still isn't an issue in the android world.


Luckily enough, back when I had an iPhone 5, there was a huge batch of shutting down 5s (s as multiple), my didn't shutdown.

But today you see for yourself in the forum all the topics complaining about shutdowns and battery health concerns on iPhones.

I'm not using a 5s anymore. And galaxy s4 is one generation older than 5s. You can compare it the same way with S5. And yes - people still use them.

If you used 10 different Android phones in the past, it means you barely used each of them for 1 or 2 years at best. Battery issues don't usually happen right away, it is usually when the battery is well used.

S5? Yeah, ask them about its performance today. The S5 has only 2GB of RAM. I have the OnePlus One, which carries the same SoC as the Galaxy S5 but with more RAM, and although it flew on KitKat, it turned into a slowpoke on lollipop. And that was with Cyanogen, which is far smoother than TouchWIZ. I can be fairly sure the S5 is not in any better position.

 

[johny328i]

Well as long as you have an android phone, you know android isn't Samsung, right?
I've had Nexus 5 back in the day, and it was butter smooth. Like every Google phone.

Android gives you many options, unlike Apple.
Apple glory days are long gone.

 

[I7guy]

I had an iPhone 5s when it was flagship. It doesn't run half as good now, when it used to back in the days.

Improved performance, my a##.

My two 5s’ run acceptably well for 2019 software in 2013 hardware. As was suggested try that with android.

Well as long as you have an android phone, you know android isn't Samsung, right?
I've had Nexus 5 back in the day, and it was butter smooth. Like every Google phone.

Android gives you many options, unlike Apple.
Apple glory days are long gone.

Maybe, but the universe is disagreeing with your assessment.

 

[sparksd]

this is fear mongering.

Yeah, that one's been going around for years now.

Well as long as you have an android phone, you know android isn't Samsung, right?
I've had Nexus 5 back in the day, and it was butter smooth. Like every Google phone.

Android gives you many options, unlike Apple.
Apple glory days are long gone.

I recently switched from a Samsung Galaxy phone to the XS Max and really like it. I've been an Android user since its introduction and am a "power user" - I have rooted and put many different custom ROMs on a myriad of Android phones and tablets. I don't find Android and Android devices to be particularly special that would cause me to rank them above iOS and Apple devices (I also have an iPad Pro and Asus, Samsung and Google tablets). And I would hardly say that Apple's glory days are gone.

 

[macfacts]

And I would hardly say that Apple's glory days are gone.

Tim has basically said this by concentrating on services.

 

[I7guy]

Tim has basically said this by concentrating on services.

One does not preclude the other.