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This stop everything in one chassis argument doesn't sit well from me. People made the same argument about combining a GPS, Palm Pilot, and cell phone. Now we have an iPhone and nobody is making the claim we should separate the devices.

I don't think people did make the same argument about iPhone. iPhone was the solution to a significant problem for many people, "How many pocket-sized devices can one person carry?" Cell phone, pager, Blackberry, iPod, calculator, electronic games, point-and-shoot camera, GPS, translator, guitar tuner, photo album, voice memo recorder.... The specifics are different from one person to the next, but once upon a time, two or three of those items was pretty typical. I'm now down to wallet, keys, and iPhone.

iPad and "full" computers are a different case. To a large extent, they simply sit on different points of the same continuum. iPad is all the computer that some people need, but it'll be inadequate for others. But then, once you get into "real" computers, there are plenty that fall short of someone else's definition of "functional computer."

The list of what iOS devices can't do has little to do with anything, imo. Computers are tools, and the best tool is the one that's best suited to the individual user's needs. The particle physicists at CERN need a whole lot more computer than I do. And I need a whole lot more computer than my elderly aunt does.

In my case? iPad (First Gen) and a Bluetooth keyboard virtually eliminated my need for a laptop. It did not eliminate my desktop. But... I now have computing power in many places I'd never have taken my laptop, no less a desktop. That's the revolution, as far as I'm concerned.
 
Would people use a keyboardless 11" MacBook Air with touchscreen and the ability to switch between OSX and iOS?

Sounds like a nightmare. OS X is not a touch interface. I'm quite pleased with my 11" Air as it is with a real, actual keyboard (ie, not some makeshift little bluetooth crap version) and I have no need for iOS on it, thanks.
 
My iPad is pretty much my main computer. I do have a desktop I once in awhile play WoW on. Other than that everything else I use the iPad for.
 
My iPad is pretty much my main computer. I do have a desktop I once in awhile play WoW on. Other than that everything else I use the iPad for.

The more I think about this question, the more I agree with this statement.

How does anyone define what their "main" device is?

Personally, I use my rMini more than my MBP. Therefore, if I am basing the term "main" on amount of usage, my iPhone 5 is my main device, followed by my rMini, and then my MBP comes in to play.
 
The more I think about this question, the more I agree with this statement.

How does anyone define what their "main" device is?

Personally, I use my rMini more than my MBP. Therefore, if I am basing the term "main" on amount of usage, my iPhone 5 is my main device, followed by my rMini, and then my MBP comes in to play.

You have a point, people don't need a computer for games buy a game consul
you buy a computer for the wrong reason.
tablet for the common people is great, E Mails, ams, camera, Skype,iTunes,
and,,,,,,,
if you need some CAD or heavy stuff go buy a computer.
 
I think it'll be along time until they have the power and storage space to do things like, say, editing and rendering a 20 minute video. You also need an external keyboard if you want to write more than a few paragraphs, and at that point you're already at a mini-laptop form factor, so there's not much of an advantage.

Also, tiny screens and speakers suck and always will. I love my 15" Macbook Pro, and can't wait for my 27" iMac. Sure- the resolution is about the same as an iPad air, but i can really USE all of it and not have to have it 18" away.

The lack of a true file system is also not good for those who create content. Not being able to attach a picture from the "Mail" app is also very annoying.

Tablets are also not THAT much more portable than something like a MacBook air. In other words, it has to be in a backpack or purse rather than your pocket. Most tablet owners also have smartphones, so there's a lot of redundancy there, and you have to buy a seperate data plan. I'd rather have a barely pocketable phablet; all my stuff is in one place, it's always with me, and I don't have to have a seperate data plan. Then I'll have my iMac at home, and perhaps a <13" laptop for longer trips. I really see the market for tablets getting slightly smaller as more adopt big-screen phones, and the market for computers not changing much

What I see happening is tablets replacing computers for people who don't do much more than surf the web (not much content creation), and other people having a computer plus phone/phablet.


Here's something that might be interesting though: a 12" iOS tablet, and a keyboard dock that includes an additional battery, an additional ARM processor, and additional storage. Basically another tablet with a keyboard where you'd expect to find a screen. The processors would be used as multiple cores for heavier-duty jobs. Of course, it would also cost almost as much as a tablet so I suppose the market would be limited.
 
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Id rather have a bigger and more powerful iPhone and no ipad. I have a desktop computer for when i am at home to watch movies, browse the web and play Minecraft.
 
When I'm home, I use:
7 year old laptop:50%
iPhone 4S: 30%
iPod Touch and iPad: 20%

My iPad would never replace my laptop, because I prefer a keyboard. Which reminds me... I need to order a keyboard case for my iPad :p
 
The iPad will never be my computer because Apple refuses to set it free and let it do all it could do. It would also have to be a good bit more powerful to run full photoshop and AutoCad. Until Apple allows me to move any files I want into my iPad, how could it replace a computer. No fan of iTunes but iPad can not love without it.
 
Soon or later all will be tabletized (crt to lcd tvs)
Like or not.

I predict ( as i did some years ago )

A main flat screen in every house ( 40-70" )
Working as home-brain
Working wirelessly (or not) from a mini case containing other hw )

Every person will have a tablet ( 5-6-8" )
Wich will all be linked to the home main brain flat monster

Mobiles-smartphones concepts will move to the tablet or smart watch

Something that might still require a medium large box might be science or 3d movies related.

10-15 years for the beginning of the spreading
100 years or more for the whole world to be able to ( as most of africans dont have wash machine or microwave

When and if they might ger it there will be another mass concept


Keyboards also are dying, just touch.

Tv concept dead, we are at smart tv stage (tv will move to the monster)
Touch, flat, big, wireless
 
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I had it a while ago

How did bad cases keep you from using your iPad?

so I fixed my iPad mini because of bad job of people at digi express and it was that the case was to flimsy and to flexible so I ended up before going on vacation that year it dented I got back and it cracked a week later in the case
 
I use my iPad for everything, I gave up my notebook 2 years ago and have never looked back. I am talking for both business use and personal. I love the OS and having everything in one place.

Sure there are certain enterprise programs that are not optimized for iPad, but just wait, these devices are becoming incredibly powerful and it will happen. Don't forget how far the iPad has come in an extremely short period of time.

I think at this stage, it is simply down to what you require it for. If you have any say in what programs you use iPad becomes a dream.
 
I use my iPad for everything, I gave up my notebook 2 years ago and have never looked back. I am talking for both business use and personal. I love the OS and having everything in one place.

Same for me. With Office on the ipad, I can do 95% of my at-work tasks on my iPad. I don't even remove my laptop from its docking station anymore. We have a few internal apps that require IE so I need my laptop for those. My iPad goes to every meeting with me.

At home I have 3 iPads, one in the kitchen attached to the cabinet, an iPad mini in my iTrack Dock, and my iPad Air as my primary computer.

I sold my desktop computers and laptops over a year ago. Don't miss them at all.
 
When that happens depends on each person's computing needs and preferences. It already fulfils some people's needs today.

Can't say when it might start fulfilling mine, I lack the vision necessary for such an estimation. All I know is that even if iOS should one day become capable of juggling everything for me, there's still the problem of the screen size. If it's big enough to be my laptop, then it's also too big to take into bed with me and hold up comfortably with one hand, and too big to throw in my bag and lug around for the sake of it without feeling the excess bulk, as I often do with my iPad mini when I know I'll be out all day with a few hours of time to kill in between.
Who knows.
 
Personally, I can see a few good purposes for tablets; pick one up real quick to check the weather/news, etc., videochatting and the like. The form factor can be a huge strength for certain games.

However, I personally can't stand to use one like I do a full-featured computer; maneuvering through websites on a touch screen is horribly clunky, trying to type emails or posts such as this one on a virtual keyboard is too inaccurate and frustrating, and multitasking isn't anywhere near as simple and easy to do. Not to mention I still can't understand how it's comfortable to hold these things in front of your face for long periods of time. :confused:

I had a tablet for a short time, and I don't miss it. Desktops and notebooks are what I know and what work best for me. Perhaps someday that will change, but not if things keep going the way they do.
 
Not to mention I still can't understand how it's comfortable to hold these things in front of your face for long periods of time. :confused:

I don't hold my iPad Air (or the iPad mini for that matter) in front of my face -- I hold it on my lap. In fact, even with something as light as the Kindle, when people are reading a book on it, they are more often than not holding it in their lap, not up in front of their face.
 
I think it's safe to say that the future of computing will be in tablets, and as we have seen since 2010, the iPad is getting more and more useful for everyday tasks. Whilst today, I wouldn't dare say it can take over mainstream computers for everyone, as it lacks power and functionality of a file system (and many other things..), I would go as far to say that it will * someday * be our main computers, doing all tasks from design, to databases, to hardcore gaming and everything in between..

My question to the forum is, when?

Obviously, no one knows, but with some discussion, could be conclude on a realistic and potential year?

When u trade in ur iPad for a surface pro 3!
 
We are in a transitional period today because from 1984 until about 2010, pretty much everyone who used a computer did so based on the WIMP (windows icons mouse pointer) paradigm. We have a whole generation brought up to expect computers to work in a certain way, many of whom find they don't get on as well with the fingers poking a touch screen paradigm. There are kids today, however, who are growing up with the fingers poking a screen as their "natural" computer interface (I hear a lot of stories about kids being introduced to a laptop or desktop and getting confused by the lack of a touch screen). There are, of course, still use cases where the command line interface is the optimum way of using a computer.

I think the non-tablet computer will be a bit like a manual transmission on a car. There are cases where it is superior to an automatic, but most people who drive a manual never actually drive in those conditions. People's acceptance of the new paradigm is more to do with cultural factors than technical factors.
 
A bigger ipad is coming. I think that to replace a computer they need to release bigger ipads.

About the processing speed and other things that will be no issue at all because in the future all ipads will work remotely and you will use hundreds of computers in your own ipad, you will never have to update it because everything will be done on the outside.

I think that the google computer works like this.
 
I see iPads (tablets) as primarily a "consumer" device... and most people are Consumers!

Since I "create" content to be consumed, I work on a MacPro with 3 large monitors connected. I can't imagine trying to do the things I do on a tablet with fingerprints all over the screen! If anyone moves toward one of my Press Monitors with a finger, they may risk losing it! For most of the people that I know a tablet is all they need (if anything).

I have a 17" MacBook Pro and I find it very restrictive (for creation of Press work, web sites, etc.), but "could" work on it if I had to. I had a client offer to buy me an iPad last month, but I said "Save you money as I would never even turn it on". It would be like my iPod Touch I was given a few years ago - never turned it on!
 
I use my iPad for everything, I gave up my notebook 2 years ago and have never looked back. I am talking for both business use and personal. I love the OS and having everything in one place.

Sure there are certain enterprise programs that are not optimized for iPad, but just wait, these devices are becoming incredibly powerful and it will happen. Don't forget how far the iPad has come in an extremely short period of time.

I think at this stage, it is simply down to what you require it for. If you have any say in what programs you use iPad becomes a dream.

I'm almost there. I sold my rMBP recently and we are going to just use our iPads for basically everything. I do have a newer low end Asus windows based laptop "just in case" but I expect to use it very minimally and just to run iTunes.

I believe it can be done for anyone other than true power users.
 
Why do things have to 'replace' other things necessarily?

Why can't things be thought to augment other things?

The iPad augments your Macbook. Just like your 2nd car (hopefully you're allowed something sporty...) augments the no 1 family-mobile. Don't need the truck all the time when you're just commuting around the internet.
 
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