When will the Mac dam finally break?

Discussion in 'Apple, Inc and Tech Industry' started by KingCrimson, Jul 11, 2011.

  1. KingCrimson macrumors 65816

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    Macs sales have steadily increased to nearly 4 million sold last quarter. But what would happen if demand surged to 8-10 million in the next quarter? Could Apple ramp up production to meet that demand , or would people be forced to wait 8-10 weeks? That's in an interesting problem to have and Apple's cash hoard gives them the option of opening new production facilities.
     
  2. mrkramer macrumors 603

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    I don't think it's likely for that much demand to come suddenly. But if it did I don't think Apple or any other company could get new production going that fast so people would have to wait a little bit.
     
  3. Vantage Point macrumors 65816

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    But what would happen if demand surged to 8-10 million in the next quarter?

    Prices would skyrocket due to supply and demand. But, unless someone sabatoges HP, Dell, Asus... at the same time that scenario is highly unlikely. If a company like suddenly HP gets a bad rap people will switch to another windoz machine, not a different platform. Of course I think if sales for Apple suddenly dropped the prices would still remain high :(
     
  4. TheSideshow macrumors 6502

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    QC would take an even bigger dump. Then people would get angry. Customer service would then drop. People would get angrier and unhappy. Apple would lose its brand appeal. Someone else would take over.

    If it happened next quarter the only thing that would happen, as per my guess, would be long wait times and a few more bad Apples as they try to take a few shortcuts.
     
  5. flipster macrumors 6502a

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    This. As their market share has increased over the last few years, their quality control has definitely dropped.
     
  6. KingCrimson thread starter macrumors 65816

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    Yet Apple rates #1 for customer satisfaction and Macs have the highest re-sale value. So maybe QC has dipped slightly but not enough to matter. Compared to the utter junk that is Dell, it's heaven.
     
  7. flipster macrumors 6502a

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    Definitely. I didn't mean they slipped unbearably, just a little from what I have read and experienced myself. I'm basing this off of all the problems the new iMac's have been having, as well as my iPhone 4 that I just got. Home button broken out of the box, and the screen is tinted yellow on the left, and white on the right. Frustrating, but they still are one of the best companies out there.
     
  8. neiltc13 macrumors 68040

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    What personal experience are you basing your claim that Dell is "utter junk" on?
     
  9. gnasher729 macrumors P6

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    And what evidence do you have for that?

    With quarterly sales growing from one million to four million Macs in the last five years there would be four times as many defective Macs if the quality stayed unchanged. Do you have any evidence at all that the number is higher?
     
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    Please use the TIMG tag for large images

    You want evidence? Fine.

    First iPhone = broken home button out of boke
    Second iPhone = extreme yellow tinted display
    Third iPhone = yellow/brownish tinted display

    iMac: I've had NUMEROUS repairs on it, and I baby this thing. The video card died, the hard drive was replaced 3 times, the logic board was replaced as well. Here's some proof...

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    These are based off my current experiences, as well as others. As you see in the pictures, the percentages for yellow tinted iMacs are very high. I'm not flaming Apple, it's just reality.. As their business increases, chance for mistakes do as well. It happens..
     
  11. Bonch macrumors 6502

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    I don't buy that evidence. Is there anymore proof you could offer? Don't be lazy this time. Thanks.
     
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    What other evidence would you want? In my opinion that is much more reliable evidence than a link to a so-called "accurate" online article.

    Macs are getting more and more popular. And as things start selling more, more faults are found in the software and more faulty units are shipped. It just happens. It's probability.
     
  13. flipster macrumors 6502a

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    You don't buy that evidence....? :confused: What else could I provide you with? Would you like me to link you some articles from Consumer Reports stating why they won't reccomend the iPhone due to the Anntenagate issue (it does exist, I've tested it on VZW iPhone 4).

    I'm NOT flaming Apple, I'm literally just stating what happens when companies begin to become extremely successful/popular. The proof is all over these forums, and it's happened to me. I could also give you images to the repair bills for my iMac? Would that be enough for you?
     
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    It's quite unlikely that the sales would double overnight. If there is rise, it will be steady, allowing Apple to ramp up their production if needed. FYI, Apple doesn't have its own factories, their products are mainly manufactured by Foxconn.
     
  15. Bonch macrumors 6502

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    Yes please. Thank you.
     
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    None of what you have stated is evidence of a dip in quality control. I agree that your premise is likely correct. But forum posts are not evidence. Your personal experience is not evidence. They are anecdotes. Unless you have scientifically-obtained statistics that speak to Apple's QC then and now, you are just stating an opinion.
     
  18. flipster macrumors 6502a

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    The poll with over 1,000 votes all leaning towards yellow displays on the iMacs aren't evidence, just opinions? The scientifically proven antenna problem on the iPhone are opinions? The yellow screen's on iPhone's are my opinions too, right?

    Guys in all seriousness, I don't know why your defending Apple so much. I understand they're an excellent company, it's just time to get real. With increased popularity comes more opportunity for failure. I like Apple and their products, I wrote a whole essay on Apple for school on how I believed they changed the world. So... why the denial?
     
  19. Bonch macrumors 6502

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    Real real solid flipster. You are a credit to your race. Take care my new MR friend. I love everyone. :)
     
  20. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    I didn't defend Apple at all. I said I agreed with your premise. But as someone who works with statistics, nothing that you have provided is evidence of your claim.

    A forum poll is self selecting, and therefore meaningless to any larger populations than those people that actually responded. All your poll indicates is that 698 people claimed to have an issue. That's not a particularly significant number compared to the number to iMacs sold. And it definitely doesn't show any change.

    Antennagate is a real issue, but it is a data point, not evidence of a change in quality. Even Consumer Reports acknowledges that the reception of the iPhone 4 is better than previous models.
     
  21. flipster macrumors 6502a

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    Only for you babe ;)
     
  22. KingCrimson thread starter macrumors 65816

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    It's hard to predict how many Macs will sell in the next year because sales keep increasing 25% year on year. Extrapolating based on the last few years growth rate, I'd say they sell 20 million Macs in the next year easily. Couple that with 100 million iPhones and 60 million iPads and we're talking total world domination of computing.
     
  23. Heilage macrumors 68030

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    Unfortunately, the nature of this evidence is anecdotal and is without statistical relevance. But it sucks that you've had so many problems.
     
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    Computer sales in general are increasing annually. Apple's growth may be slightly above the average but it's not like they are the only ones increasing their shipments. In the end, Macs' marketshare has pretty much been the same for years.
     
  25. BaldiMac macrumors 604

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    Apple's Mac sales have grown faster that the overall PC market for 20 consecutive quarters. Which means that their market share has increased for 20 consecutive quarters. Lately, growth has been 20-30% over the market average.
     

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