Where are the proper large tablets?

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- Non-Windows
- At least 12"
- Full HD is too little

Nothing besides iPad since Yoga 2.
 

willmtaylor

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- Non-Windows
- At least 12"
- Full HD is too little

Nothing besides iPad since Yoga 2.
Manufacturers could never crack the code. For all the flack the iPad gets, Android hardware folks just haven’t been able to reliably produce decent tablets.
 

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Manufacturers could never crack the code. For all the flack the iPad gets, Android hardware folks just haven’t been able to reliably produce decent tablets.

All true but how hard would it be to make a Galaxy Tab S4 with Stylus support and 8.0" OLED 1440p Display with a Snapdragon 835 and 6GB of RAM.

Also ASUS made a go of it in the tablet game But they never could get the Android Updates sorted out.
https://www.asus.com/us/Tablets/ZenPad-products/

If you are going to invest Money in a Tablet just get an iPad Pro Apple will stand behind it for years, and it will be faster than some PCs at webbrowsing. You just can't get anything better.
 
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No more OS upgrades.
It was released with iOS 3 and received updates through iOS 5, right? So 2 years of iOS upgrades and then no more because of hardware restrictions on a gen 1 product, right?

How is that “killing” it (in the negative connotation)? Am I missing something?
 

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It was released with iOS 3 and received updates through iOS 5, right? So 2 years of iOS upgrades and then no more because of hardware restrictions on a gen 1 product, right?

How is that “killing” it (in the negative connotation)? Am I missing something?
Apple ecosystem ISVs tend to abandon older OS versions.
 

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Apple ecosystem ISVs tend to abandon older OS versions.
Sure, this is true of all hardware and software manufacturers; you’ve been around these forums long enough that you must know this and know that Apple and its RSV’s are better than most at supporting older OS’s and hardware.

Like I said though, you bought the debut product in a brand new category. It had 256MB of memory and didn’t even have a camera. I’d say 2 years of support and then several years of viability (without updates) is to be expected for such a device.

My .02. Each to his own, I suppose.
 
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Sure, this is true of all hardware and software manufacturers; you’ve been around these forums long enough that you must know this and know that Apple and its RSV’s are better than most at supporting older OS’s and hardware.

Like I said though, you bought the debut product in a brand new category. It had 256MB of memory and didn’t even have a camera. I’d say 2 years of support and then several years of viability (without updates) is to be expected for such a device.

My .02. Each to his own, I suppose.
Apple sucks for older hardware. PCs are better.

Android sucks more than Apple.
 
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Apple ecosystem ISVs tend to abandon older OS versions.
How is that any sort of surprise with anything technology-related? Not to mention it's not Apple killing it if you're referring to third party developers abandoning older OS versions... And to second the other statement, it received support through several OS revisions over multiple years and didn't cease to function on top of that.
 
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How is that any sort of surprise with anything technology-related? Not to mention it's not Apple killing it if you're referring to third party developers abandoning older OS versions... And to second the other statement, it received support through several OS revisions over multiple years and didn't cease to function on top of that.
It is Apple's abandonware culture. Apple knows how the ISVs behave.

The Windows PC ecosystem does not function like this.
 

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It is Apple's abandonware culture. Apple knows how the ISVs behave.

The Windows PC ecosystem does not function like this.
Well first of all, you can’t compare a full-fledged computer OS to a young mobile OS... yeah big shock that Windows support had lasted longer than the initial iOS tablet. Just because app updates may have required newer OS versions doesn’t mean the versions on your iPad stopped working - at least they didn’t on mine. And were you really surprised that developers would target the latest OS/device with new apps/updates? Windows devs don’t build apps with Windows 95 in mind - they just don’t work in the same way.
 

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Well first of all, you can’t compare a full-fledged computer OS to a young mobile OS... yeah big shock that Windows support had lasted longer than the initial iOS tablet. Just because app updates may have required newer OS versions doesn’t mean the versions on your iPad stopped working - at least they didn’t on mine. And were you really surprised that developers would target the latest OS/device with new apps/updates? Windows devs don’t build apps with Windows 95 in mind - they just don’t work in the same way.
Software that stops getting updates is dead software nowadays.
 

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I don't care. I paid $1000 for it. And way lower than Brazilian price.
Are you new to Apple? This is how they've been with 1st generation or early eras of any product (and end of era products) for a very long time. Go back to the OWR G3s which lost OS X support at 10.2, first generation Intel Macs only getting 10.4-10.6 support, and of course the 1st generation iPod Touch and iPhone also had this happen. Likewise, with people who bought the last year or so of PowerPC Macs losing support from not only Apple early, but the entire software development community left us behind in a hurry. Lots of people with high end PowerBooks and $3000 PowerMac G5s were just as screwed. You're not going to get much sympathy because anyone whose been in the Apple ecosystem for any period of time has experienced what they consider a premature end of life on their product too.
 

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What non Windows, non iPad, tablet gets supported for five years? I'll give you a hint: none.
I paid $350 for my Tab Pro 12.2 . I am still waiting for an Android upgrade, but at least I still get updates.
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Are you new to Apple? This is how they've been with 1st generation or early eras of any product (and end of era products) for a very long time. Go back to the OWR G3s which lost OS X support at 10.2, first generation Intel Macs only getting 10.4-10.6 support, and of course the 1st generation iPod Touch and iPhone also had this happen. Likewise, with people who bought the last year or so of PowerPC Macs losing support from not only Apple early, but the entire software development community left us behind in a hurry. Lots of people with high end PowerBooks and $3000 PowerMac G5s were just as screwed. You're not going to get much sympathy because anyone whose been in the Apple ecosystem for any period of time has experienced what they consider a premature end of life on their product too.
My MBP 2011 was "repaired" twice and when I had the battery replaced in December, I asked to check the GPU. In January it failed and Apple said I was SOL because they had no more parts left.
 
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