Where is the Computers app in the new Apple TV?

thatsmyfish

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Is there any confirmation that the new Apple TV will still allow local content to be played from homesharing?
 

CaptTCS

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I was wondering the same thing. I have several hundred movies on a Hard Drive connected to a Mac Mini "Media Server". The closest thing I have found in the product pages is that it says you will be able to access "home videos". Not sure if that it hinting to this or something different.

I asked this question in another post and some Apple Super-Mega-Fullofhimself User got kinda testy with me.
I simply ended my question with: "Is it going to be there, or it this just one more way for Apple to make it more difficult for us to use content that we did not purchase directly from them?", and he replied with "I think it’s time for you to move to a different platform, anything but Apple. Why do you want to do business with a company you think is out to screw its customers?".

Am I alone in feeling like it wouldn't be beneath Apple to try to make it more difficult for us to watch content that was not purchased directly through them, and also still like Apple products enough to want to use them even if that's the case?
 

rhett7660

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I was wondering the same thing. I have several hundred movies on a Hard Drive connected to a Mac Mini "Media Server". The closest thing I have found in the product pages is that it says you will be able to access "home videos". Not sure if that it hinting to this or something different.

I asked this question in another post and some Apple Super-Mega-Fullofhimself User got kinda testy with me.
I simply ended my question with: "Is it going to be there, or it this just one more way for Apple to make it more difficult for us to use content that we did not purchase directly from them?", and he replied with "I think it’s time for you to move to a different platform, anything but Apple. Why do you want to do business with a company you think is out to screw its customers?".

Am I alone in feeling like it wouldn't be beneath Apple to try to make it more difficult for us to watch content that was not purchased directly through them, and also still like Apple products enough to want to use them even if that's the case?
Looking over the tech specs:

http://www.apple.com/tv/specs/

It is showing home sharing which leads me to believe you will be able to view and listen to your stuff.

Like others have mentioned, I think the new orange icon is the new computer icon.
 
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CaptTCS

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Looking over the tech specs:

http://www.apple.com/tv/specs/

It is showing home sharing which leads me to believe you will be able to view and listen to your stuff.

Like others have mentioned, I think the new orange icon is the new computer icon.
"Home Sharing" could also be referring Airplay, which actually gets mentioned a couple times in the product pages.

I hope you guys are right. The new system looks like a leap forward from the current box, and I would like to get one. I just REALLY need the "Computers" function, so I can still access my movie collection.
 

Rogzilla

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"Home Sharing" could also be referring Airplay, which actually gets mentioned a couple times in the product pages.

I hope you guys are right. The new system looks like a leap forward from the current box, and I would like to get one. I just REALLY need the "Computers" function, so I can still access my movie collection.
Home Sharing and AirPlay are two completely different things.

Home Sharing is a service of iTunes that allows you to share your library with any compatible device (typically, an iOS device or a computer with iTunes installed).

AirPlay is a feature of the OS that allows you to stream your display through an iOS, OSx and (now I assume) tvOS device.

Since the spec list mentions Home Sharing and a list of compatible file formats, its safe to say you will be able to access your iTunes Library from the Apple TV.
 
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CaptTCS

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Home Sharing and AirPlay are two completely different things.

Home Sharing is a service of iTunes that allows you to share your library with any compatible device (typically, an iOS device or a computer with iTunes installed).

AirPlay is a feature of the OS that allows you to stream your display through an iOS, OSx and (now I assume) tvOS device.

Since the spec list mentions Home Sharing and a list of compatible file formats, its safe to say you will be able to access your iTunes Library from the Apple TV.
Isn't Airplay a function of Home Sharing? After all, don't you need Home Sharing turned on to airplay?

Once again.. I hope this is correct. It's just that that function is not mentioned even once in the product pages.
 

TRICKorDEVICE

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I only said that because 1: It's doesn't look like the current button. And 2: It's down among the 3rd party apps, and not the native apps as it currently is.

I was worried about the loss of the same feature. I love streaming my own collection, movies I bought pre-digital age.

However, I think this is the computers icon. If you'll notice, podcasts is also mixed in with third party apps too. We should be good.
 

Beerstalker

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One thing I read is that it is possibly going to be merged into the other apps. For example you go into movies and there you will have options for local, purchased, and then rent etc. Same thing for music and TV. I really hope that person is right because that would be a much better way for it to work in my opinion.

I'm also hoping that with 64GB of internal storage I might be able to sync or download some of my itunes movies/TV shows to the apple TV itself and then take it with me on trips. Then I can hook it up to a TV wherever I am and watch those programs without having to worry about internet service. This would be great for me at the hunting cabin etc, I wouldn't have to bring my Blu-Ray player and a bunch of discs anymore.

Yes, I've tried doing this with my iPad and the digital AV adapter, but don't find that to all that well.
 

Rogzilla

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Isn't Airplay a function of Home Sharing? After all, don't you need Home Sharing turned on to airplay?

Once again.. I hope this is correct. It's just that that function is not mentioned even once in the product pages.
Nope. As I said, Home Sharing is a function of iTunes, AirPlay is a function of the OS. Two very different features and unrelated.

One thing I read is that it is possibly going to be merged into the other apps. For example you go into movies and there you will have options for local, purchased, and then rent etc. Same thing for music and TV. I really hope that person is right because that would be a much better way for it to work in my opinion.
This is how Apple TV used to work. I liked it that way but I got used to the current way. If they do go that route, I'll be fine with it. But that orange icon does seem like it could be the "Computers" app that you access home sharing through.

They probably just moved it down so they could focus on the updated apps. I suspect we will see little difference in the Computers app.
 

JMEANS

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Definitely looks like we will be able to continue viewing our local media, that being said it will be interesting to see if our current meta tagged TV & movie files will have a conflict with the new slick interface? Even though I really dig the new display, I Really don't want to retag 7TB of iTunes movies & TV shows.
 

BarcelonaPaul

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I'm not sure. If you look at the tech specs for ATV3 it says...
  • For streaming media from a Mac or PC: iTunes 10.6 or later; iTunes Store account for Home Sharing.
This wording is not there for ATV4
 

TRICKorDEVICE

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One thing I read is that it is possibly going to be merged into the other apps. For example you go into movies and there you will have options for local, purchased, and then rent etc. Same thing for music and TV. I really hope that person is right because that would be a much better way for it to work in my opinion.

I'm also hoping that with 64GB of internal storage I might be able to sync or download some of my itunes movies/TV shows to the apple TV itself and then take it with me on trips. Then I can hook it up to a TV wherever I am and watch those programs without having to worry about internet service. This would be great for me at the hunting cabin etc, I wouldn't have to bring my Blu-Ray player and a bunch of discs anymore.

Yes, I've tried doing this with my iPad and the digital AV adapter, but don't find that to all that well.

That would be a great solution to streaming our own off-line libraries. Quite frankly I don't care how they do it if it's a separate computer app or if it's merged with movies and TV, as long as we don't lose that functionality
 
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