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Ok so don't hate me here, but I used to do tech support for Comcast. You need to unplug your modem and router from the ac outlet. Plug your modem in first and let it fully boot up...2-3 minutes. After that plug the power to your router back in. That's the proper way to power cycle. That should do the trick. Do you have other devices in the house that is wireless? Are they working?

Spoken like a true cable tech support person. It must take about 5 minutes to train you guys, since that's the only thing they have to teach you.
 
I give up. You don't want help or want to learn anything. Good luck.

My post was directed at the people who claimed that routers give out that address when there is something wrong with the router and I'm saying it's not possible and one of the reasons is that both my routers cannot assign that IP because it is not in the allowed range of assignable IP addys.

So tell me, how does that equate to "You don't want help or want to learn anything."?
 
it so weird this thread came up because I just noticed my wifes iphone was doing it today. She is still on 3.X iOS. I'll fix it when I get home now.
 
The 169 addresses are self assigned by the system trying to get an address. They are used when your system is configured to automatically get an IP address but there is not a server available to actually give it an IP address.

This can mean that your iphone is not properly configured to ask for an address, the router is not properly configured to give it an address or there is a physical problem with your WiFi/3G.

You said that you manually entered the MAC address into the router. Has your iphone lost its MAC due to a hardware problem. Is the MAC address FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF, if so then you have a firmware problem with the phone and it will default to a broadcast MAC address.

If all other devices in your network work properly then it points to the phone. Take it to ATT and they will identify the problem quickly.
 
So tell me, how does that equate to "You don't want help or want to learn anything."?

Because you keep posting the same wrong information and/or repeating it which does nothing but perpetuate it.

There's something wrong with your phone since it doesn't 'remember' the connection across a reboot yet everything works fine when you delete and redefine it. which indicates there's nothing wrong with your router.
 
Spoken like a true cable tech support person. It must take about 5 minutes to train you guys, since that's the only thing they have to teach you.[/QUOTE

I don't do that anymore. it's your isp's job to make sure the connection is at the home, which they can see immediately if the modem is online. Do you call the electric company when when a light bulb burns out? Do you call the water company company when a pipe bursts? 99 percent of the time people would just unplug and plug in what they felt like and expect it to work.

Just trying to help the guy because more than likely thats the problem. If he doesn't know what 169 is he probably doesn't know the right way to cycle his modem and router.......
 
Because you keep posting the same wrong information and/or repeating it which does nothing but perpetuate it.

There's something wrong with your phone since it doesn't 'remember' the connection across a reboot yet everything works fine when you delete and redefine it. which indicates there's nothing wrong with your router.

By refuting claims of others that are saying the router is the problem somehow translates to "You don't want help or want to learn anything."?

Perhaps you should be directing your posts at them.
 
Really? Where is this magic AT&T Store where they know WTF is going on?

Because if it is a hardware problem, then ATT will be able to identify it as such or laugh in your face. Either way the phone is either identified as broken or not. Then he can look elsewhere.

Also, why quote my last sentence which you then decide to take out of context with the dozen other sentences I wrote before that.
 
The 169 addresses are self assigned by the system trying to get an address. They are used when your system is configured to automatically get an IP address but there is not a server available to actually give it an IP address.

This can mean that your iphone is not properly configured to ask for an address, the router is not properly configured to give it an address or there is a physical problem with your WiFi/3G.

You said that you manually entered the MAC address into the router. Has your iphone lost its MAC due to a hardware problem. Is the MAC address FF-FF-FF-FF-FF-FF, if so then you have a firmware problem with the phone and it will default to a broadcast MAC address.

If all other devices in your network work properly then it points to the phone. Take it to ATT and they will identify the problem quickly.

I don't think they would take too kindly to a JBreaked phone. :eek:

The MAC address for my iPhone in my router admin is valid, as that was the first thing I checked.

I did Sync the phone with iTunes, and the issue appears to have resolved itself as the phone will now immediately grab the correct IP address upon reboot.

Thanks to all for your input and help.
 
@phpeters87

You have two recent threads (this and the 3G memory one)
On both, you have argued with posters attempting to help you.

So, perhaps you don't want help or want to learn anything after all ?? :confused:
 
I don't think they would take too kindly to a JBreaked phone. :eek:

I visited an ATT store once and nearly everyone there had a jailbroken iPhone. I've visited Apple stores before, and encountered employees with jailbroken iPhones.

Just because it's jailbroken, doesn't automatically mean they won't help.

In fact, it's an opportunity for them to prove how smart they really are.
 
@phpeters87

You have two recent threads (this and the 3G memory one)
On both, you have argued with posters attempting to help you.

So, perhaps you don't want help or want to learn anything after all ?? :confused:

On the other thread, someone posted that it was "highly doubtful" or similar language that I had the amount of free memory that I claimed my phone was displaying, so I posted a screen shot to prove my claim.

How was that poster trying to help me?
By basically calling me a liar?

If people don't have something positive to contribute to a thread, they shouldn't post in the thread IMO

And in this thread when I pointed out to others that it was NOT the router, another poster (MikePA) said "you don't want to learn anything" even though we both agreed it wasn't the router.

And a quick search of his posts shows he tends to be more confrontational than helpful in several threads.

I'm not the one coming out of nowhere with claims of "you don't want to learn anything" or calling out people on their claim of how much free memory they have.

Like I said, if someone doesn't have anything positive to contribute to a thread, perhaps they shouldn't post as it hijacks the thread and nothing gets accomplished.

I'm here to learn as well as to help others, not to engage in petty BS
 
On the other thread, someone posted that it was "highly doubtful" or similar language that I had the amount of free memory that I claimed my phone was displaying, so I posted a screen shot to prove my claim.

How was that poster trying to help me?
By basically calling me a liar?

And in this thread when I pointed out to others that it was NOT the router, another poster (MikePA) said "you don't want to learn anything" even though we both agreed it wasn't the router. And a quick search of his posts shows he tends to be more confrontational than helpful in several threads.

I'm here to learn as well as to help others, not to engage in petty BS
I did try and help you in this thread and you ignored it and you didn't simply point out it wasn't the router. In the other thread someone simply asks for proof and they are calling you a liar. Yep, it's always the other guy who is at fault. A quick search of your posts shows you tend to ignore help, incorrectly characterize other people's posts to make you look like the 'injured' party and argue with people who try.

And now, your phone has magically healed itself, it's now working and nothing was changed since you started this thread. Congrats.
 
All I had to do on the my wifes phone is choose "Forget this network" and then reconnect to it.
 
Just trying to help the guy because more than likely thats the problem. If he doesn't know what 169 is he probably doesn't know the right way to cycle his modem and router.......

That's my point entirely. It is actually very unlikely if not impossible that this is the cause of his problem, which has already pretty clearly been isolated to his phone, and yet that is the first place you go. It's a lazy solution, and it assumes that the OP and everyone else here is an idiot.

I would add that I have plugged-in my cable modem and router countless times in all kinds of orders, reset one and not the other, waited for the lights and not waited for the lights and it has never failed to connect except when the problem was on my cable company's end, whatever "the proper way to power cycle" may be.
 
That's my point entirely. It is actually very unlikely if not impossible that this is the cause of his problem, which has already pretty clearly been isolated to his phone, and yet that is the first place you go. It's a lazy solution, and it assumes that the OP and everyone else here is an idiot.

I would add that I have plugged-in my cable modem and router countless times in all kinds of orders, reset one and not the other, waited for the lights and not waited for the lights and it has never failed to connect except when the problem was on my cable company's end, whatever "the proper way to power cycle" may be.

There is a right way to do it, and by you saying you have tried every way possible shows you don't understand how. In my original response i asked if other wireless devices were working to rule out the modem and router being the problem. Its not lazy, it's what the problem is 95% of the time. You are bitter... I just tried to help :)
 
There is a right way to do it, and by you saying you have tried every way possible shows you don't understand how. In my original response i asked if other wireless devices were working to rule out the modem and router being the problem. Its not lazy, it's what the problem is 95% of the time. You are bitter... I just tried to help :)

The fact that you persist in this advice just proves my point. I'm done.
 
Guys, I am sorry to jump in like that, but I am facing this very same problem with an iPod touch I have. I am quite experienced with TCP/IP etc and for the name of God, I can't find a solution. Another iPod Touch (these belong to my twins), the wife's iPhone 3GS, my iPhone 3G, the iMac I am using right now and the wife's MacBook work fine. It's only this stupid iPod that's causing the problem.

Now, it might very well be that the little owner of this device has broken it, he is known to be a certified destroyer of everything he can get his hands on.

I tried everything I knew, (reset the network settings, release and re-acquire the networks (there are two in the house), I even upgraded to iOS 4.0.1 but nothing. Oh and it's not jailbroken, straight as it came from Apple last January.

Any ideas?
 
Guys, I am sorry to jump in like that, but I am facing this very same problem with an iPod touch I have. I am quite experienced with TCP/IP etc and for the name of God, I can't find a solution. Another iPod Touch (these belong to my twins), the wife's iPhone 3GS, my iPhone 3G, the iMac I am using right now and the wife's MacBook work fine. It's only this stupid iPod that's causing the problem.

Now, it might very well be that the little owner of this device has broken it, he is known to be a certified destroyer of everything he can get his hands on.

I tried everything I knew, (reset the network settings, release and re-acquire the networks (there are two in the house), I even upgraded to iOS 4.0.1 but nothing. Oh and it's not jailbroken, straight as it came from Apple last January.

Any ideas?

Sounds like a hardware problem.
 
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