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Hi all,

I have the atv4k, and now looking to upgrade my tv to a 4k tv. I am currey looking at the sony 75x900e, but it does not have DV, how important is dv? and should I consider that when buying a new tv?

the other tv I am also looking is the samsung82mu8000 which has both hdr and dv.
 
surfer369 said:
Hi all,

I have the atv4k, and now looking to upgrade my tv to a 4k tv. I am currey looking at the sony 75x900e, but it does not have DV, how important is dv? and should I consider that when buying a new tv?

the other tv I am also looking is the samsung82mu8000 which has both hdr and dv.
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I don't think the Samsung you mentioned has DV and in fact, as of right now, no Samsung TV supports DV.

Have you looked at the LG OLED series? They support DV and are largely believed to deliver the best 4k picture.
 
btrach144 said:
I don't think the Samsung you mentioned has DV and in fact, as of right now, no Samsung TV supports DV.

Have you looked at the LG OLED series? They support DV and are largely believed to deliver the best 4k picture.
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Totally agree! LG seem to be the safest bet with Dolby Vision. I guess that there's a reason why you see LG TVs everywhere - no matter which country I visit :)
New 2018 range due March BUT 2019 will see HDMI 2.1!!! Could be a game changer and you'll regret spending a large amount of money if that is the case which, let's be honest, it is!!!
 
BODYBUILDERPAUL said:
New 2018 range due March BUT 2019 will see HDMI 2.1!!! Could be a game changer and you'll regret spending a large amount of money if that is the case which, let's be honest, it is!!!
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Hardly. It will be years before content is widely distributed that takes advantage of the increased bandwidth and by then people that are interested will be ready for an upgrade.
 
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Yes, I'm not 100% sure that waiting for hdmi 2.1 would pay off. By that time, HDMI 2.2 or 3.0 will be rumored and you'll never end up buying a new TV.

Current lineup of 4k TVs are freakin sweet.
 
I've been very impressed with my LG. Great screen and colour depth and the software and apps that come with it are top notch. Connects flawlessly to my WiFi and all my gear. Only drawback I feel about it is that I wish it had an extra HDMI port. None of them on the market have enough.
 
I bought the 55x900e a few weeks ago and am very happy with the purchase. From what I understand, very few if any sets actually meet the standards for Dolby vision and HDR 10 looks really good. Most of the content on iTunes and Netflix that are marked as Dolby vision still send an HDR 10 feed if your set doesn’t support DV.

While the OLED’s may have better blacks, for me it wasn’t worth an extra $500 at the 55inch level.
 
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Hardly. It will be years before content is widely distributed that takes advantage of the increased bandwidth and by then people that are interested will be ready for an upgrade.
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I’m waiting for HDMI 2.1 but’s not for the increased bandwidth.

At the moment I have a Panasonic plasma with a Playbar and Sub. I’m happy enough with this setup for now but my next setup is going for a full 7.1 home cinema experience. AV receivers manage video and it means that you need to update your receiver every time you purchase a new TV. Got a new TV with Dolby Vision HDR? You’re going to need a new receiver with DV to take advantage of it. Thankfully, HDMI 2.1 has eARC, which means all your input devices such as Apple TV and Blu Ray player are connected to the TV instead and the full resolution audio including DTS-HD Master Audio is sent to the receiver. The HDMI forum says that this will create a new breed of audio-only receivers designed to be future proof. No more needing to purchase a new receiver when upgrading your TV.
 
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surfer369 said:
I am currey looking at the sony 75x900e, but it does not have DV, how important is dv? and should I consider that when buying a new tv?
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If you are considering a Sony TV, consult Sony forums and AVforums for comments about the latest Android TV software. When I was going to buy a TV two years ago, Sony TVs had countless negative feedback about random freezes, lag when changing input, weekly factory resets etc.

Gigster said:
Thankfully, HDMI 2.1 has eARC, which means all your input devices such as Apple TV and Blu Ray player are connected to the TV instead and the full resolution audio including DTS-HD Master Audio is sent to the receiver. The HDMI forum says that this will create a new breed of audio-only receivers designed to be future proof. No more needing to purchase a new receiver when upgrading your TV.
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Awesome. I didn't know about eARC.
 
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Hardly. It will be years before content is widely distributed that takes advantage of the increased bandwidth and by then people that are interested will be ready for an upgrade.
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What content? Every thing is on the Internet (old skool TV channels are in and deserve to stay in the 1900s). iTunes streams 4K Dolby Vision as of 2017. Vimeo as of 2013. Vimeo now allows 8K HDR uploading. Netflix 4K & DV, Amazon 4K HDR.
 
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future proof

now where have i heard that one before ???

every tech bit of kit i've ever bought had that 'tag'

shortly before it became obsolete...
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I bought the 55x900e a few weeks ago and am very happy with the purchase. From what I understand, very few if any sets actually meet the standards for Dolby vision and HDR 10 looks really good. Most of the content on iTunes and Netflix that are marked as Dolby vision still send an HDR 10 feed if your set doesn’t support DV.

While the OLED’s may have better blacks, for me it wasn’t worth an extra $500 at the 55inch level.
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plus no ir problems unlike oled
 
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I have the 55 900e and love it. I debated over it not having dv, but I got a sweet deal on it and couldn't pass it up. I'm guessing recommendations would depend on your budget. If money isn't an issue wait for the 2018 sony lineup, or look at their 2017 930 or 940 I think support dv. Or go OLED like others have suggested. I am not a fan of sony's android tv, but since I use an apple TV it's a non issue.
 
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I had the LG B6 OLED TV but developed burnin after 6 months of interspersed news channel logos. LG does not warranty burnin. We watched a lot of Netflix and other movies but the burnin just adds up over time. I dumped the LG and went to a Sony 930E. I am very pleased so far. It does have off angle viewing but thats it and its very bright which works great for daytime viewing.
 
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Just bought my first 4K TV (an LG 55SJ810V), and thought I was all set: LG have a great reputation, 4K, Dolby Vision. I'm set.

Bright scenes are fine, but many dark scenes are horrible (and I mean really nasty). It seems as if the screen is divided into 6/8 vertical 'columns', and if there's a bright object on-screen anywhere in that column the whole column gets brighter. Light goes off / pans away: the column gets darker. On some scenes it's like there's a disco going on behind the screen, it's incredibly distracting.

Incidentally, it's also a poor choice for gaming. "Game" picture mode is incredibly blurry, and any other picture mode looks fine, but breaks up / stutters (I don't know the correct terminology in this case) when you pan around quickly.
 
whooleytoo said:
Just bought my first 4K TV (an LG 55SJ810V), and thought I was all set: LG have a great reputation, 4K, Dolby Vision. I'm set.

Bright scenes are fine, but many dark scenes are horrible (and I mean really nasty). It seems as if the screen is divided into 6/8 vertical 'columns', and if there's a bright object on-screen anywhere in that column the whole column gets brighter. Light goes off / pans away: the column gets darker. On some scenes it's like there's a disco going on behind the screen, it's incredibly distracting.

Incidentally, it's also a poor choice for gaming. "Game" picture mode is incredibly blurry, and any other picture mode looks fine, but breaks up / stutters (I don't know the correct terminology in this case) when you pan around quickly.
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The LG SJ8500 actually got knocks for its blacks. I assume the LG SJ810V is a similar model outside the US market, or perhaps even a step down from that. LG is known for great OLEDs, but not necessarily LCDs.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/sj8500
 
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The LG SJ8500 actually got knocks for its blacks. I assume the LG SJ810V is a similar model outside the US market, or perhaps even a step down from that. LG is known for great OLEDs, but not necessarily LCDs.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/sj8500
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Very similar models, but the SJ8500 is a notch or two above the SJ810V (see displayspecifications - very handy site).

I found the blacks generally ok, except when a very bright colour suddenly appears onscreen, the light seems to bleed through to the entire height of the screen. Thanks for the link above - it does mention a "Local Dimming" feature which might be related.

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@whooleytoo, have you tried searching for picture and/or calibration settings used by other owners?

I had to do some tweaking when I got a 4k TV. I was not impressed with the colours out-of-the-box.
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Not yet. Was focused on getting everything set up - will do so now. :) It's a great TV for bright scenes, but as it stands - with no tweaking - dark scenes with bright items in them can look terrible. As stated above, maybe the "Local Dimming" feature is relevant for this.

I guess it goes to show, you can buy a good brand, read reviews, compare specs, and still get it 'wrong'. Or at least it might not be ideal out-of-the-box. :)

I do love the webOS on LG tvs though. The magic remote is a huge step up for text entry (speech recognition is a bit hit 'n' miss for my Irish accent!)
 
@whooleytoo, I had a 60" LG plasma tv that I really liked. It wasn't a smart tv but the picture was beautiful. I didn't need the smart features since I had a home theatre PC connected to it for playback of all media.

Since no computer supports playback of iTunes 4k movies except the Apple TV, I got it to access my iTunes movies in HDR or DV.
 
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whooleytoo said:
Bright scenes are fine, but many dark scenes are horrible (and I mean really nasty). It seems as if the screen is divided into 6/8 vertical 'columns', and if there's a bright object on-screen anywhere in that column the whole column gets brighter. Light goes off / pans away: the column gets darker. On some scenes it's like there's a disco going on behind the screen, it's incredibly distracting.
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Try switching off local dimming.
 
surfer369 said:
Hi all,

I have the atv4k, and now looking to upgrade my tv to a 4k tv. I am currey looking at the sony 75x900e, but it does not have DV, how important is dv? and should I consider that when buying a new tv?

the other tv I am also looking is the samsung82mu8000 which has both hdr and dv.
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LG makes Sony panels and both are good. Go with Dolby Vision. I have a Samsung in one room that looks great, but the LG we bought for another has better picture. Sony sets are great, but this was for a spare room. I’d buy either, Sony was a bit more expensive.

What size? This will make a difference in the lines you have available to choose from. If you can, go with a 55” that you can afford.
 
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