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mad jew said:
I agree. I hate Mozilla-based products (no rational explanation) and I like the browser to be integrated well with the rest of the system. I only have Explorer installed on my Dell. :eek:

I will give you a good reason "gecko is caca", if you have a slow internet connection you will see what I mean. If you have the luxury of broadband it appears fast as the page seems to render all at once.

Gecko was probably the single biggest reason for the slump and decline of Netscape rather than any dirty tricks M$ is supposed to have done.

Actually I might just have another look at Shirra:)

Funny reading this thread its like the BBC's religion website trying to discuss Jesus on the Islam board as visa versa:D
 
Gave Camino a good try with its recent 1.0 release and now it's my main browser. Safari isn't even on my dock anymore.

It's way faster than Safari, although I had heard that Safari for Tiger was a speed upgrade—I'm still on 10.3.9, so I don't know how Camino rates against Safari in 10.4.x
 
I used Safari until it became slow around 10.4.2 or .3 (can't remember), so I switched to Firefox, I never liked the look of it, but I still used it all the time.

Then I tried Camino, because it's pretty, but the features are very limited, and for being written in Cocoa, it sucks that there's no spell checking or dictionary support. But I was in love with the look. Still, I stick with Firefox.

Then I found out the UNO now applies to Firefox too, and by enabling it and making some tweaks in the CSS file, I got it to look like this:

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Camino.

I also like Firefox. The best thing I like about Firefox is the way it handles the find in page command, with the search bar constantly at the bottom. I don't understand why more browsers don't at least have this as an option. The way IE and Safari do the Find command in a separate window is just retarded, since you have to bring the window up again to find the next occurance. I would probably stick with Firefox if not for the stability problems I've had with it.

MisterMe said:
I have issues with Firefox, but stability is not one of them. If you are having stability problems with Firefox, the problem lies in your machine. Possibly, the problem lies between the keyboard and chair. It does not lie with Firefox.

I don't know where to assign blame to the problems I've been having with Firefox. But when Firefox unexpectantly quits on me everyday and I never have any problems with Safari or Camino, I'm not going to continue using Firefox. I'd rather just use something that works rather than try to figure out how I'm making Firefox crash.

It's my opinion that Camino feels faster than Safari most of the time. I know it's faster for some sites (such as eBay which just brings Safari to its knees on my computer). It's also been very stable. It has the Find command in a separate window (probably to make it more like Safari despite how stupid it is), but there's also a keyboard workaround to make it a little more useable.

Another cool thing about Camino is how you can sort the history by the website name, address, date you last visited it, or date you first visited it. Very nice.
 
I use Firefox. It's not really because I love Firefox, but Safari and Camino don't really do it for me.

Safari has 2 main problems for me:
1) The inability to allow popups for a few sites while blocking from all others. I have a few sites that use menus that I cannot block.
2) The scroll bar has all kinds of problems--often wrong size and breaks up all funny like,

Camino has similar scroll bar problems. Also, the unified title bar also does weird things and the borders break up. Additionally, Camino has a real problem handling favicons.

So, Firefox wins. Stable. Smooth. I love Grapple themes and the Sage news reader. I also used firefoxy to spiffy up the widgets and radio buttons. Looks sharp.
 
Here is another vote for Safari; I have not had too many problems with it.

Although some of the *.pdf compatibility leaves something to be desired.
 
I used to use Netscape back in the day, so when I got into Linux four years ago I was using Mozilla, and that led me to Firefox. When on the Mac machines at school I also use Firefox. Firefox seems to be faster than Safari and it doesn't have troubles that Safari sometimes does on websites that I like to visit.
 
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