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Land Rovers are very fun to drive. There is just this charm about them. The british eccentrics and the very high ride height.
 
A decent bicycle and a bus pass can get you anywhere you need. Plus, you'll stay in shape and save A LOT of money. No insurance, no gas, no repairs.

Easier said than done. Home for me is the St. Louis suburbs, where there's virtually no public transit and the nearest bus station for me would probably be about 5 miles away. College for me is a small town in rural Missouri that doesn't have ANY public transportation whatsoever. People like me need a car, there's simply no other choice.

And don't say bike. I'd like to see someone ride a bike a few miles while carrying a weeks worth of groceries, which includes things like cases of bottled water, soda, beer, etc, not to mention, a sh*tload of bags. Or ignoring the fact that it would be impossible to carry, what about when it's raining, there's half a foot of snow on the ground, or extremely cold or hot temperatures or some other condition where it's unsafe to ride a bike. You'd have 2 choices, put your life on the line, or starve.

Then, of course, there are the times I need to travel between home and college. 100 miles away. I definitely don't think biking's going to cut it.

You don't know everyone's situation, and it annoys me greatly when people tell me that I don't need a car, because I do.
 
I'm not telling anyone they don't need a car, I'm just saying that in some cases people can reduce their dependency and use of their cars. There are situations when a car is useful. Grocery shopping, you mentioned, or long distance trips. In a lot of cases, it just seems like people hop in their car for a 5 minute trip; something they could have easily done on a bicycle.
 
My bad I misread that part of the post. You are also making an assumption that all I care about is going in a straight line. Flooring it is half the fun of driving the car. The other part is pushing it through the curves. Which an Aston Martin, BMW( especially BMW since they're tested on the Nurburgring track), Corvette Z06( also tested on Nurburgring), etc which all will out handle a Civic on the curves.

Lol who said anything about a honda civic driving around on the curves? Like I specifically said a few post back, my day to day commuter is a Civic. Again you go with your assumptions. Nurburgring, isn't that pretty much a level track? Although this isn't the exact clip I'm looking for where it was a battle of "super cars" on a leveled track, I found it amusing to see the lambo's and porches do so poorly... But this one will have to do.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=lzDvVaTCPsc

And Nurburing doesn't have sh*t on this track, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7rEFxUxxpU

Thats what you get when you put a bad ass driver behind a stupidly fast car.

I still like how you keep pushing the fact that I said Civic once and assume that I use that as my "fun" car.

Truth be told, my go stupid dumb fast car was a 91' Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo that only pushed 356hp to the wheels daily.

My downhill "mountain road car" was a stripped down 91' Honda CRX HF, with a 4 point roll cage welded and bent by me. Well actually a buddy of mine helped me with a few of the welds.

My next project car is going to be a 98'~01' Subaru Impreza 2.5RS preferably a coupe. I'm looking forward to experience Northern Cali's RallyX division.

It was pretty funny back in highschool when you had those rich kids who's parents bought them the $32k AWD Evo's/Subarus who'd challenge you to drag racing, but would be to afraid to take an evening drive up to the mountains.

But please keep talking about Aston Martin's and Corvette Z06's and your Dad's bimmer that you'll never push to actually see that cars potential.

The man oppisition I have agaisnt these cars, are the people that buy them. They purchase them as a status symbol, to show off on friday/saturday nights when they pull up to a club or resturant.

Lol and the times you do see them wrecked, it was because the driver couldn't even keep it in a straight line.

And kid, the peoples who's jaws drop when they see you pulling up in your tricked out hoopty aren't the kind of people you want as company or respect.
 
A decent bicycle and a bus pass can get you anywhere you need. Plus, you'll stay in shape and save A LOT of money. No insurance, no gas, no repairs.

No fun.

And irritation.

I used to cycle 10 mins to the busstop, then have a 15 minute busride to the trainstation, then a 20 minute trainjourney to the city, where I had to walk about 10 minutes to my school. In total it was about an hour's journey from house to school..... IF everything was on time and IF the transportservices were streamlined. ;)
In practice it took up to about 90 minutes. :mad:
Whereas in a car, i could do the trip in 30 minutes! :rolleyes:
Must admit that in rushhour the cartrip would take about an hour.... Still far quicker than with public transport, and I sit very comfortably in my car listening to the radio or iPod.
I don't care much for cycling in the rain, or having to standup cramped in a bus or train, only to walk in the rain again.
 
And kid, the peoples who's jaws drop when they see you pulling up in your tricked out hoopty aren't the kind of people you want as company or respect.

Yep, but a lot of these people cannot survive without the gratuitous daily ego stroking.

But, I also think a magazine and a jar of KY Jelly would be a lot less expensive.
 
No fun.

And irritation.

I used to cycle 10 mins to the busstop, then have a 15 minute busride to the trainstation, then a 20 minute trainjourney to the city, where I had to walk about 10 minutes to my school. In total it was about an hour's journey from house to school..... IF everything was on time and IF the transportservices were streamlined. ;)
In practice it took up to about 90 minutes. :mad:
Whereas in a car, i could do the trip in 30 minutes! :rolleyes:
Must admit that in rushhour the cartrip would take about an hour.... Still far quicker than with public transport, and I sit very comfortably in my car listening to the radio or iPod.
I don't care much for cycling in the rain, or having to standup cramped in a bus or train, only to walk in the rain again.

You obviously have have never lived in NYC. Its faster to walk or take a subway than to actually drive. That includes getting there too. If I had to commute to NYC everyday I would probably kill yourself. Traffic is a nightmare.
 
You obviously have have never lived in NYC. Its faster to walk or take a subway than to actually drive. That includes getting there too. If I had to commute to NYC everyday I would probably kill yourself. Traffic is a nightmare.

That's true.
And to be honest same goes for London (where I used to live closeby as a kid).
But where I live now, things are different. In Holland we don't have real major cities like London or New York, but more like "major towns" pretty close together with smaller towns in between. I live in such a smaller town, which has Amsterdam around 20 miles to the west, and Utracht around 20 miles to the south. The town I live in has no trainservice, so the only form of public transport is the busservice. If you want to go to a major town (like Amsterdam or Utrecht) via public transport I take the bus to a nearby small town, and get on a train from there...

Much easier to take the car, and relax in the traffic-jams.

Now if we had the underground service like the one in London linking all our major and smaller towns....
 
I'd take the Aston-Martin, (but I do like the Ford GT also).

BTW: sort of off-topic, but a few days ago my neighbor brought home a new silverish-grey V8 Vantage. Those things are absolutely gorgeous :eek:
 
That's true.
And to be honest same goes for London (where I used to live closeby as a kid).
But where I live now, things are different. In Holland we don't have real major cities like London or New York, but more like "major towns" pretty close together with smaller towns in between. I live in such a smaller town, which has Amsterdam around 20 miles to the west, and Utracht around 20 miles to the south. The town I live in has no trainservice, so the only form of public transport is the busservice. If you want to go to a major town (like Amsterdam or Utrecht) via public transport I take the bus to a nearby small town, and get on a train from there...

Much easier to take the car, and relax in the traffic-jams.

Now if we had the underground service like the one in London linking all our major and smaller towns....

Well, where i live now, there is no public transportation, everything is so far away from my house, riding a bike would be very impractical and time and energy consuming. Walking would be out of the question because its just so far, and besides there are no sidewalks, except for around the town green. There are not even any to the schools.
 
Hahahaha!:D This thread is hilarious!

Nazmac what should I buy for my private jet:

Gulfstream G5
767-300
747-400 maybe?
Learjet
orrrr maybe a 777

but maybe a yacht I was thinking the QE2, you know only 1,000ft+ long.
 
Hahahaha!:D This thread is hilarious!

Nazmac what should I buy for my private jet:

Gulfstream G5
767-300
747-400 maybe?
Learjet
orrrr maybe a 777

but maybe a yacht I was thinking the QE2, you know only 1,000ft+ long.

You should buy the 787 Dreamliner when it goes into production. Or if you must go for a 747, get the 747-8 when it goes into production. For a yacht, go for the Island Packet 485. :p
 
I'm not telling anyone they don't need a car, I'm just saying that in some cases people can reduce their dependency and use of their cars. There are situations when a car is useful. Grocery shopping, you mentioned, or long distance trips. In a lot of cases, it just seems like people hop in their car for a 5 minute trip; something they could have easily done on a bicycle.

Damn straight. Since I moved to Chicago I totally got rid of my car, it'd just be a waste of money to keep it around. If I really need one, I can just sign up for a car-sharing service and drive one around for as long as I need for cheap. The only place my bike can't take me in a timely manner is the 'burbs, and there's nothing of interest there anyways.
 
Damn straight. Since I moved to Chicago I totally got rid of my car, it'd just be a waste of money to keep it around. If I really need one, I can just sign up for a car-sharing service and drive one around for as long as I need for cheap. The only place my bike can't take me in a timely manner is the 'burbs, and there's nothing of interest there anyways.

Nice to see another pro-bike poster on here.

It really doesn't take much longer to ride a bike somewhere than it does to drive. There's no traffic if you're riding a bike, and you feel really great and healthy.
 
Nice to see another pro-bike poster on here.

It really doesn't take much longer to ride a bike somewhere than it does to drive. There's no traffic if you're riding a bike, and you feel really great and healthy.

Frankly, traffic and parking where I live is so terrible, especially around rush-hour, that having a bike or taking the train is pretty much a necessity if you wanna get anything done.

Plus, I feel like I can get a lot more done on the bus or train in the morning than I would if I were idling on some freeway. I can read, prepare presentations for the day, and do work while someone else takes me where I need to go. Very convenient.

Oh, and here's my current fixie. Note the two Apple stickers :)

Edit: But this is all off-topic! The OP should get a Hummer, because sometimes you just have to say F-U to the world! Especially all those jerk-ass biker punks who think they're better than everyone! Honk at them right before you run 'em off the road!
 
Ah right, a defender of ego driven consumers who merely buy automobiles as a status symbol (the same ones who are polluting our planet).

I'm sure you don't even know what enthusiast means. You sound like a confused hobbyist. But there is a time and place to be a hobbyist, for example not taking a car like the corvette or the aston martin and turning into a weekend/daily commuting/grocery getter. The driving experience doesn't exist between home and work, between the grocery store or what errands you run.

I love driving, even while driving to work I practice something Jackie Stewart or was it Stirling Moss said a long time ago "Try to drive so smoothly that a passenger can't feel the transistions." (I thought I was the only one who tried to do that on a daily basis) And a quote from something I read a while back " When you can drift Grandma through the esses without making her looking up from her crossword puzzle, then you can talk about smooth"

What most of you classify as the driving experience, isn't smashing your gas to the pedel after a stop light.

My apologies I don't find it necessary to take "the driving experience" into day to day living just to pollute the earth. I'll keep my Honda Civic for day to day driving.

I find it more enjoyable when a group of me and my buddies take a day trip into the mountains of Northern California, with the sole reason to enjoy the experience. As well as places like Laguna Seca, Infineon Raceway or even a freakin' Auto X Parkling lot on the weekends where the driving experience is well suited.

Excuse me, that I don't love the driving experience as much as you do.

Lol, there you ago again with your assumptions. Who says I go drive the mountain roads for site seeing? The good mountain roads are about performance, handling and how YOU drive the car not how the car drives you. Any chump with a deep pocket can buy a car that throws him into his seat while going in a STRAIGHT LINE. Talk about passion and driving experience when you drive 2+ hours to have a chance to drive on a mountain road that you heard through word of mouth that is secluded and safe from passer-bys.

But if straight lines do it for you, more power to you and your cheap thrills.

Lol, driving experience? Still getting excited about flooring the gas pedal in your dads BMW.

Heal toeing with your right foot while engaging the clutch with your left foot shifting gears with your right hand prior to entering the apex of a turn all the while trying to find the best line to follow. That’s what the mountains are all about.

Where did this rant even come from??? What does this have to do with people not wanting boring hybrids and stuff?
 
I luff my 07 GTI :D

To the OP:
Don't rule out some of the smaller less 'luxury' sport cars. They can be a lot of fun. I've had it for about 4 months now and I still get a stupid grin on my face when I start it. It gives me more than enough power than I will ever need and looks damn good.
 
Frankly, traffic and parking where I live is so terrible, especially around rush-hour, that having a bike or taking the train is pretty much a necessity if you wanna get anything done.

Plus, I feel like I can get a lot more done on the bus or train in the morning than I would if I were idling on some freeway. I can read, prepare presentations for the day, and do work while someone else takes me where I need to go. Very convenient.

Oh, and here's my current fixie. Note the two Apple stickers :)

Edit: But this is all off-topic! The OP should get a Hummer, because sometimes you just have to say F-U to the world! Especially all those jerk-ass biker punks who think they're better than everyone! Honk at them right before you run 'em off the road!

You're right about getting things done on the bus or train. I do all of my reading for my classes for the day (or as much as I can) on the bus in the mornings. It's great. One day I got about 80% of my work for my online class done.

Nice bike. The milk crate is smart.

I don't think the OP should stop at a Hummer. He should buy a Hummer limo.
 
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