Land Rovers are very fun to drive. There is just this charm about them. The british eccentrics and the very high ride height.
Do the planet a favour and take public transport instead of massaging your ego.
lol - someone's been playing too much Gran Turismo.
A decent bicycle and a bus pass can get you anywhere you need. Plus, you'll stay in shape and save A LOT of money. No insurance, no gas, no repairs.
My bad I misread that part of the post. You are also making an assumption that all I care about is going in a straight line. Flooring it is half the fun of driving the car. The other part is pushing it through the curves. Which an Aston Martin, BMW( especially BMW since they're tested on the Nurburgring track), Corvette Z06( also tested on Nurburgring), etc which all will out handle a Civic on the curves.
A decent bicycle and a bus pass can get you anywhere you need. Plus, you'll stay in shape and save A LOT of money. No insurance, no gas, no repairs.
And kid, the peoples who's jaws drop when they see you pulling up in your tricked out hoopty aren't the kind of people you want as company or respect.
Not interested in that, I am interested in sport cars.
No fun.
And irritation.
I used to cycle 10 mins to the busstop, then have a 15 minute busride to the trainstation, then a 20 minute trainjourney to the city, where I had to walk about 10 minutes to my school. In total it was about an hour's journey from house to school..... IF everything was on time and IF the transportservices were streamlined.![]()
In practice it took up to about 90 minutes.![]()
Whereas in a car, i could do the trip in 30 minutes!![]()
Must admit that in rushhour the cartrip would take about an hour.... Still far quicker than with public transport, and I sit very comfortably in my car listening to the radio or iPod.
I don't care much for cycling in the rain, or having to standup cramped in a bus or train, only to walk in the rain again.
You obviously have have never lived in NYC. Its faster to walk or take a subway than to actually drive. That includes getting there too. If I had to commute to NYC everyday I would probably kill yourself. Traffic is a nightmare.
That's true.
And to be honest same goes for London (where I used to live closeby as a kid).
But where I live now, things are different. In Holland we don't have real major cities like London or New York, but more like "major towns" pretty close together with smaller towns in between. I live in such a smaller town, which has Amsterdam around 20 miles to the west, and Utracht around 20 miles to the south. The town I live in has no trainservice, so the only form of public transport is the busservice. If you want to go to a major town (like Amsterdam or Utrecht) via public transport I take the bus to a nearby small town, and get on a train from there...
Much easier to take the car, and relax in the traffic-jams.
Now if we had the underground service like the one in London linking all our major and smaller towns....
Hahahaha!This thread is hilarious!
Nazmac what should I buy for my private jet:
Gulfstream G5
767-300
747-400 maybe?
Learjet
orrrr maybe a 777
but maybe a yacht I was thinking the QE2, you know only 1,000ft+ long.
I'm not telling anyone they don't need a car, I'm just saying that in some cases people can reduce their dependency and use of their cars. There are situations when a car is useful. Grocery shopping, you mentioned, or long distance trips. In a lot of cases, it just seems like people hop in their car for a 5 minute trip; something they could have easily done on a bicycle.
Damn straight. Since I moved to Chicago I totally got rid of my car, it'd just be a waste of money to keep it around. If I really need one, I can just sign up for a car-sharing service and drive one around for as long as I need for cheap. The only place my bike can't take me in a timely manner is the 'burbs, and there's nothing of interest there anyways.
Nice to see another pro-bike poster on here.
It really doesn't take much longer to ride a bike somewhere than it does to drive. There's no traffic if you're riding a bike, and you feel really great and healthy.
Ah right, a defender of ego driven consumers who merely buy automobiles as a status symbol (the same ones who are polluting our planet).
I'm sure you don't even know what enthusiast means. You sound like a confused hobbyist. But there is a time and place to be a hobbyist, for example not taking a car like the corvette or the aston martin and turning into a weekend/daily commuting/grocery getter. The driving experience doesn't exist between home and work, between the grocery store or what errands you run.
I love driving, even while driving to work I practice something Jackie Stewart or was it Stirling Moss said a long time ago "Try to drive so smoothly that a passenger can't feel the transistions." (I thought I was the only one who tried to do that on a daily basis) And a quote from something I read a while back " When you can drift Grandma through the esses without making her looking up from her crossword puzzle, then you can talk about smooth"
What most of you classify as the driving experience, isn't smashing your gas to the pedel after a stop light.
My apologies I don't find it necessary to take "the driving experience" into day to day living just to pollute the earth. I'll keep my Honda Civic for day to day driving.
I find it more enjoyable when a group of me and my buddies take a day trip into the mountains of Northern California, with the sole reason to enjoy the experience. As well as places like Laguna Seca, Infineon Raceway or even a freakin' Auto X Parkling lot on the weekends where the driving experience is well suited.
Excuse me, that I don't love the driving experience as much as you do.
Lol, there you ago again with your assumptions. Who says I go drive the mountain roads for site seeing? The good mountain roads are about performance, handling and how YOU drive the car not how the car drives you. Any chump with a deep pocket can buy a car that throws him into his seat while going in a STRAIGHT LINE. Talk about passion and driving experience when you drive 2+ hours to have a chance to drive on a mountain road that you heard through word of mouth that is secluded and safe from passer-bys.
But if straight lines do it for you, more power to you and your cheap thrills.
Lol, driving experience? Still getting excited about flooring the gas pedal in your dads BMW.
Heal toeing with your right foot while engaging the clutch with your left foot shifting gears with your right hand prior to entering the apex of a turn all the while trying to find the best line to follow. That’s what the mountains are all about.
Frankly, traffic and parking where I live is so terrible, especially around rush-hour, that having a bike or taking the train is pretty much a necessity if you wanna get anything done.
Plus, I feel like I can get a lot more done on the bus or train in the morning than I would if I were idling on some freeway. I can read, prepare presentations for the day, and do work while someone else takes me where I need to go. Very convenient.
Oh, and here's my current fixie. Note the two Apple stickers
Edit: But this is all off-topic! The OP should get a Hummer, because sometimes you just have to say F-U to the world! Especially all those jerk-ass biker punks who think they're better than everyone! Honk at them right before you run 'em off the road!
I think that was the problem with the original post.Get the iCar.
No brainer.