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Which chip does your 6s(6s+) have?
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You know, I was doing some light reading and realized Apple has a habit of underclocking some processors. If they were doing this, which chip is being throttled here? I'm thinking TSMC?
3GS:
The iPhone 3GS is powered by the Samsung APL0298C05 chip, which was designed and manufactured by Samsung. This is the first iPhone with a system-on-a-chip. This system-on-a-chip is composed of an ARM Cortex-A8 CPU core underclocked to 600 MHz (from 833 MHz), integrated with a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU.
4:
The iPhone 4 is powered by the Apple A4 chip, which was designed by Intrinsity[54] and, like all prior iPhone models, manufactured by Samsung.[55] This system-on-a-chip is composed of an ARM Cortex-A8 CPU integrated with a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU.[56] The Apple A4 is also used in the iPad where it is clocked at its rated speed of 1 GHz. The clock speed in the iPhone 4 has not been disclosed. All prior models of the iPhone have underclocked the CPU, which typically extends battery life and lowers heat dissipation.
3GS:
The iPhone 3GS is powered by the Samsung APL0298C05 chip, which was designed and manufactured by Samsung. This is the first iPhone with a system-on-a-chip. This system-on-a-chip is composed of an ARM Cortex-A8 CPU core underclocked to 600 MHz (from 833 MHz), integrated with a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU.
4:
The iPhone 4 is powered by the Apple A4 chip, which was designed by Intrinsity[54] and, like all prior iPhone models, manufactured by Samsung.[55] This system-on-a-chip is composed of an ARM Cortex-A8 CPU integrated with a PowerVR SGX 535 GPU.[56] The Apple A4 is also used in the iPad where it is clocked at its rated speed of 1 GHz. The clock speed in the iPhone 4 has not been disclosed. All prior models of the iPhone have underclocked the CPU, which typically extends battery life and lowers heat dissipation.
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Pleassseeeee spare me all of this chip talk. Who cares what chop you have, you have the device and that's that. I'm sure Apple will push out an update to fix the issue if its worth even fixing. Just enjoy your phone people. You would have never known the difference if this never came up in the media.
Lirum Info Lite was pulled from the App Store.
Should be obvious now, that there is something behind it, and Apple wants to hide / deny it.
Just hoping they don't shorten the battery life for TSMC iPhones with some update
Should be obvious now, that there is something behind it, and Apple wants to hide / deny it.
Just hoping they don't shorten the battery life for TSMC iPhones with some update
"Phew! Thank goodness I have a TSMC chip." goes the general sentiments.
The way TSMC is slipping up, having a Samsung-made chip is no shame at all.
Like it or not, Samsung is a powerhouse when it comes to manufacturing hardware. Memory, SSD drives, AMOLED displays... you name it.
It's only software and certain aspects of hardware design where Samsung falls short.
It's the same A9 chip, made under the same specifications, stop obsessing over a non-issue.
The way TSMC is slipping up, having a Samsung-made chip is no shame at all.
Like it or not, Samsung is a powerhouse when it comes to manufacturing hardware. Memory, SSD drives, AMOLED displays... you name it.
It's only software and certain aspects of hardware design where Samsung falls short.
It's the same A9 chip, made under the same specifications, stop obsessing over a non-issue.
Lirum pulling their app is clearly Apple's influence. Though Apple must know there are a half dozen other apps still in the App Store that can show the chip type.. Scratching my head at Apples actions.. We all know what the president of Lirum said was just a bunch of crap. They got a phone call from Tim Cook… No doubt.
Want to know if you have the Samsung or TSMC A9 and can't find Lirum? Simple.
Download BMSSM, touch the SYSTEM tab and look under DEVICE for MODEL.
If there is an "M" in there, you have the TSMC A9. If not, it is the Samsung.
For example, my 6S with the TSMC is N71mAP. If it were a Samsung, it would say N71AP. The same applies for the 6S+. N66mAP is TSMC, N66AP is Samsung.
Imported from my thread, which apparently got locked for using -gate in the title.
Download BMSSM, touch the SYSTEM tab and look under DEVICE for MODEL.
If there is an "M" in there, you have the TSMC A9. If not, it is the Samsung.
For example, my 6S with the TSMC is N71mAP. If it were a Samsung, it would say N71AP. The same applies for the 6S+. N66mAP is TSMC, N66AP is Samsung.
Imported from my thread, which apparently got locked for using -gate in the title.
Just hoping they don't shorten the battery life for TSMC iPhones with some update
I bet folks like yourself will flip out if a future iPhone contains the Exynos chip, or some equivalent Samsung-derived chip.
Might I remind you that once upon a time, Macs ran exclusively on PowerPC chips, because Intel was affiliated with the Evil Empire of Microsoft.
When the benefits of having Intel chips became too great to ignore, PowerPC was dumped and the rest was history.
Nothing personal, it's just technological evolution and business.
Or look in your "LowBatteryLog" log file, like someone posted earlier... The Hardware Model is in that, apparently.
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Many users on this site simply don't want to be happy about their purchases. They won't rest until they can find something to hyperventilate about and lose sleep over.
Of course, with fantastic phones like the 6s and 6s Plus, you have to work pretty hard to find something. So now people are obsessing over something they would have never noticed anyways if the dual-sourcing information never came out.
Unless of course, you're one of those people that buys iPhones just to run intensive benchmarks every day until your battery runs out- in which case yes, you should demand a refund from Apple.
As opposed to the developers of just about every other pulled app who simply say that Apple pulled their app?
Another day, another wishful conspiracy.
Performed one last GeekBench battery test between the TSMC/Samsung chips and here are the results (newly restored identical phones w/ airplane mode):
http://imgur.com/a/G6oIS
TSMC:
Samsung:
http://imgur.com/a/G6oIS
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Samsung:
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I believe that these chips are running the same speed out of the box, but... you have to wonder if under load the TSMC chip is being underclocked to keep it cool as heat may affect it differently. Something has to account for the 20% difference in some of these tests... I can't imagine when Apple was contracting these things with Samsung, they thought that ANY difference which would account for 20% battery life, would be acceptable. Yes, people make mistakes, but when you are designing a chip to meet specifications, that seems unacceptable to me. I'm guessing this could be fixed with a software update, or the batteries in this case are at fault. Hell the CPU isn't even the biggest power draw in the phone.
What if display manufacturing was to blame for the difference in battery life? That would actually make more sense, right? Instead of people running the same test, which is actually a test of the entire system instead of just the CPU, over and over again. I'd like to see Anandtech (or someone with the means to buy some 6Ss) do the tests, take the phone apart, mix and match, etc.
These phones are likely the most identical as they were both set up by you right? Crazy...
Back when everyone was yelling about the TSMC chip, I held onto mine. That little bit of lag eventually stopped after a day. I think if you believe you've got a dud, return/exchange it. If not, be happy.
Id be curious to see how many people switch from the plus to the regular 6S Since you have a 60% change of getting a Samsung with the plus and 20 with the 6S. Also trying to swap out a 6 Plus for another is challenging due to inventory restrictions. I'm so tempted to switch back to he 6S. If you are on Next after 13 days you are stuck with the phone. Also what happens when you go through all that hassle esp with the Plus and end up with the same chip.
Also lets hope the shutting down issue is not some hardware issue with the touch ID that requires the phones to be swapped out. I feel bad for anyone that has a TCMS chip and has to swap out for some other reason and gets stuck with a Samsung esp if all this proves true in real world usage.
Also lets hope the shutting down issue is not some hardware issue with the touch ID that requires the phones to be swapped out. I feel bad for anyone that has a TCMS chip and has to swap out for some other reason and gets stuck with a Samsung esp if all this proves true in real world usage.
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Are there any log files associated with these runs? Like temps, clock speeds, etc? I don't know much about geekbench, but I'd like to know if it captures those things.
I tweeted the Geekbench dude asking him, lets see if he responds...
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I bet folks like yourself will flip out if a future iPhone contains the Exynos chip, or some equivalent Samsung-derived chip.
Might I remind you that once upon a time, Macs ran exclusively on PowerPC chips, because Intel was affiliated with the Evil Empire of Microsoft.
When the benefits of having Intel chips became too great to ignore, PowerPC was dumped and the rest was history.
Nothing personal, it's just technological evolution and business.
Why should I flip out if they will use some Samsung-derived chip? I would love it, if the iPhone gets newer technology, but only if it actually is better than the older technology. And as of now it looks like the 14nm has some problems. So why should I prefer it ahead of the TSMC SoC? Of course future iterations will be better, so in the long-run 14nm will replace 16nm!
I just think, that it isn't that unlikely, that Apple manipulates the Kernel in such way, that the battery of a TSMC-driven iPhone will be on level with a Samsung-driven iPhone, because they want to hide the variance in battery life!
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