How fast is Jomic?
The reason I ask is because I downloaded 30 Volumes of Batman arcs, and i was thinking that'd probably take a while to convert to PDF..
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How fast is Jomic?
The reason I ask is because I downloaded 30 Volumes of Batman arcs, and i was thinking that'd probably take a while to convert to PDF..
Everybody should have goodreader but i dont think is necessary for a pdf reader, good reader lets you administer files, let you download anything on the web, lets you access dropbox.
again pooryou your the only one on this! Why would you convert a cbz/cbr into a pdf, pdf is more resource intensive (wastes battery) plus all comics are in cbz and cbr that you might download. I dont think no one uses goodreader except you
to view comics, and like i said in other comments i love goodreader and i use it as a file manager not a pdf reader theres way better pdf readers out there some where you can ever annotate. Some people think its slow!!!!! Isnt there a whole thread about people talking goodreader is slow for pdfs viewing.Your trying to transform the comic file standard into something else by urself losing all standards just because!
What your doing is like transforming all you jpeg pictures in psd! why would you brake internet standard format like that? I dont know.
Its pretty fast, plus you can just load them all up at once and then let it go to work, so it really isn't any trouble.
again pooryou your the only one on this! Why would you convert a cbz/cbr into a pdf, pdf is more resource intensive (wastes battery) plus all comics are in cbz and cbr that you might download. I dont think no one uses goodreader except you
That's simply not true about PDFs being more resource intensive and wasting battery.
Annotate? I have never needed to annotate a PDF in my life, and certainly not a comic.
Goodreader takes well under a second to render the next page of a PDF, I don't consider that slow. I tested the exact same comic in Goodreader (PDF) and Cloud Reader (CBR) and I would say the perceived speed of Cloudreader is an illusion based on that stupid scrolling animation it does.
CBR and CBZ are obscure formats that will always require specialized software to view, whereas you will always have many excellent options for viewing PDFs. Since the conversion with Jomic is so painless, there is no reason not to go with PDF. On the iPhone I can understand that special comics-specific software might be needed for custom zooming etc. since the screen is so small (too small for reading comics if you ask me) but on the iPad any good PDF reader will work great for reading comics.
I disagree, there is no advantage to CBR and CBZ files, all they are is a compressed folder of images. There is nothing to lose, only compatibility to gain.
Pooryou while your at it redo all the torrents wit cbr and cbz to pdf.
Please search Pdf hog, Pdf memory resources, pdf cpu intensive.
People in the other tread even told you after i suggested Clould Readers that its not just faster its much faster and that you should try it
. Now your on this thread making people convert all the zip,rar,cbr,cbz to pdf.
Also pdf with images run slower than cbr and cbz when refreshing pages.
Oh well if you want to continue professing converting Cbr,cbz,zip,rar to pdf go ahead after this i wont continue answering.
How do you gain compatibility by braking a internet standard? arrr never mind dont answer, dont want to continue this discussion.
Pooryou while your at it redo all the torrents wit cbr and cbz to pdf.
Please search Pdf hog, Pdf memory resources, pdf cpu intensive.
People in the other tread even told you after i suggested Clould Readers that its not just faster its much faster and that you should try it
Now your on this thread making people convert all the zip,rar,cbr,cbz to pdf.
Also pdf with images run slower than cbr and cbz when refreshing pages.
Oh well if you want to continue professing converting Cbr,cbz,zip,rar to pdf go ahead after this i wont continue answering.
How do you gain compatibility by braking a internet standard? arrr never mind dont answer, dont want to continue this discussion.
Wait, how am I making anyone do anything? Can I make people put money into my Paypal account too?
Hey if you don't want to use PDF that's fine with me, I haven't got any problem with that at all. However your assertion that I'm 'breaking an internet standard' is irrational and I have already addressed why. It's also not true that PDFs are slower, i'm not sure why you are saying that.
You really don't have to get worked up about this, it's ok for people to have different opinions.
The advantage of CBR|Z, (besides it being the de facto standard) is that it is indeed "just" a compressed folder of images as you said.
Now there's nothing interesting about the compressed format, just that they are fast to decompress.
The more interesting is, that once decompressed (internally) in a comicreaderapp/program, the program can throw it's own arsenal of image enhancing tricks on the images themselves when resizing for the viewport.
Besides that, most programs will only put the current viewing and maybe the next and previous image into memory. The decompressed images just resides in some tempfolder.
While a PDF-app needs to have the complete file into memory or needs to "decompress the PDF-file every pageturn to get the next page".
--also... on your desktop, it's possible to show cbz/cbr as thumbnails.
Now there's nothing interesting about the compressed format, just that they are fast to decompress.
The more interesting is, that once decompressed (internally) in a comicreaderapp/program, the program can throw it's own arsenal of image enhancing tricks on the images themselves when resizing for the viewport.
Besides that, most programs will only put the current viewing and maybe the next and previous image into memory. The decompressed images just resides in some tempfolder.
While a PDF-app needs to have the complete file into memory or needs to "decompress the PDF-file every pageturn to get the next page".
--also... on your desktop, it's possible to show cbz/cbr as thumbnails.
Fair enough. But if PDF is working fine for me (which it is, even with 100mb+ files) then it just becomes a matter of preference, and I gave my reasons for mine.
You should compare for yourself rather than relying on anyone else's opinion, including mine. It's simple enough to convert one or two comics and compare them in a few apps, and there are plenty of free and extremely cheap options.
The thing about speed is it should really be a non-issue in this scenario regardless of format. Reading is inherently linear; you (meaning the dev) always know what page is coming next and have plenty of time to preload it while the user is reading the current page. Any app that is not fast enough just needs to be better optimized.
Once again I don't understand why people have to be badgered into using one app. And now I realize it's the same person who was doing it before, only now it's a different app we're getting beat over the head with. I'd avoided this thread for a while because of it. A friend of mine tried cloud readers, I watched over his shoulder. There isn't much to it, I wasn't impressed. Only benefit I can see is that it's free. But I don't want to argue about it or read every second post saying "don't use that use this instead".
I don't mind discussing the pros and cons of what few readers are out there. But it's not a freaking contest.
I don't mind discussing the pros and cons of what few readers are out there. But it's not a freaking contest.
Strange because you where the comic zeal fan boy and I was regarded as the comic reader mobi fan boy, yet now I like another program that doesn't make me a fan boy does it.
I Think your still mad because after our discussion that not only engadget and gizmodo and 2 other major gadget blogs said that comic reader mobi is the real thing and comic zeal is a good looking car with no engine as I recall.
Not only that your the only user that gives opinions on other app with out buying them or using them. Just looking other peoples shoulders.
Well, I have CZ4, CRM in my dock. As I want to sort the type of comics into apps.
No app really has a good collection management, that's why.. (and also because CZ4 itunes transfer gets really slow after 10GB transferred files)
I now use CZ4 for collections and CRM for single/new issues I want to read asap.
On the ipad or my collection?
US-comics: 70GB
EU-Comics: 150GB
Manga: 260GB
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And once again, you're utterly missing the point. I'm not a fan boy (I'm not a boy at all). I've got no personal investment in ANY of the apps, they've all got major weaknesses. I just find it annoying that you feel the need to try to argue everyone into using whatever your favorite app of the moment is, instead of allowing people to discuss the pros and cons of all of them. Comic Zeal is working for me. The difference, though, is that I don't tell people they're wrong for not using it.
Just quit replying to every single post and saying "no, use [insert app here] instead", and the conversation will flow a little more smoothly.
Agreed. Half this thread is just jodorowsky00 saying how great Cloudreaders is.
Cloudreaders renders pages terribly, doesn't keep a zoom level and just looks terrible. The excuse for a terrible GUI is speed? There are tons of great apps that are blazing fast and have beautiful interfaces.
That's my opinion and I'm not going to reply to every person saying try are wrong if they don't use my preferred app.
I actually ended up going back to using CZ's stand-alone sync (rather than iTunes) because I like the ability to categorize them into a series/collection during sync. But I've only done a few gigs and it's definitely not all that stable. (I guess there's also compression issues that people don't like, but I don't have a good eye for graphics quality so I don't see the difference.)
I just use iTunes sync and then use the in-software options to sort my full-resolution comic files.
I'm glad I didn't end up buying CRM, but I do hope new challengers enter the market; the Comic Zeal could be so much better, but it doesn't have much need to compete unless a true competitor pops up again. I'll have to see if Cloudreader makes a good alternative.
As for the comics format, it's a "scene" thing. Groups like DCP and Minutemen are the primary source for tens of thousands of scanned comics; when new comics hit the shelves on Wednesday, these groups are the ones that get them online by Thursday. When they do this, and when they put them in torrents, Usenet and Direct Connect hubs, they distribute the files in .cbr/.cbz format. When people share the files, they share them in those same formats. When people made software specifically aimed at reading comics on computers, they optimized the software to deal with image files collected in .cbr/.cbz format.
Digital music could have ended up in any number of superior formats, but today the inferior .mp3 format is still the most popular because it took hold early. The same is true for .avi for standard definition tv caps and the matroska container for h.264 content. Regardless of whether pdf is better or worse in general, it has already missed its opportunity to become the format of choice for comics.
I don't really see why you would say that when it's so painlessly easy convert them. It's definitely a viable option for those who want to do it.
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