You are wrong. Every single app supports multitouch gestures. You just need to set them up using BetterTouchTool.
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Which is the better internet browser for Lion?
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You are wrong. Every single app supports multitouch gestures. You just need to set them up using BetterTouchTool.
Chrome is better in my opinion. It utilizes the RAM well, has never crashed on me, and extensions like ADBlock, No Flash, Cookie Manager, etc. are awesome.
I think I'll try getting used to Safari once 10.7.1 is released, as it's too buggy for me right now. I've always been a FF user and so making the switch to Safari was too annoying to get used to. But if I can make Safari function like FF with specific behaviors that I'm accustomed to, I have no problems switching.
Personally I find Chrome very boring, plain and unintuitive. I tend to use Safari most of the time although I also use Firefox from time to time. Of course this is all on Snow Leopard. However I doubt my browser using habits will change with Lion.
I hate Safari and always have. Only thing I use it for is bookamrk syncing with iphone.
Firefox was always my favorite, until Lion. It has the best tweaks/settings. It crashes like it's supposed to do it! It's horrible!!!
Chrome sadly is my browser of choice with Lion. It's the fastest and has better settings than Safari.
In the latest Safari is there any way to remove the bookmarks bar? I hate having it there and could always remove before, cant find a way to now. Also, how do you stop it from doing that annoying ass thing where it opens to last viewed page??
Firefox was always my favorite, until Lion. It has the best tweaks/settings. It crashes like it's supposed to do it! It's horrible!!!
Chrome sadly is my browser of choice with Lion. It's the fastest and has better settings than Safari.
In the latest Safari is there any way to remove the bookmarks bar? I hate having it there and could always remove before, cant find a way to now. Also, how do you stop it from doing that annoying ass thing where it opens to last viewed page??
You mean view menu ->Hide Bookmarks bar?
You can option-command-q to quit without saving tabs or use the system preferences, General -> Restore Windows when quitting apps, uncheck that.
I have found that helps greatly in stabilizing memory usage when quitting apps.
Firefox 5.0.1.
While I couldn't use FF 5.0 in Lion because it crashed every 5 minutes - from mozilla release notes: "There is a bug present in the upcoming release of OSX 10.7 that causes Firefox to crash when using downloadable fonts. Downloadable fonts are used widely on the web, so users would have suffered severe crash problems. We alerted Apple to the problem before the release of 10.7 but they did not fix the problem before 10.7 went to final release. Weve changed the font APIs that were using to newer versions which appear to fix the problem. Users on 10.6 and before will continue to use the old APIs to reduce risk. Later versions of Firefox will move all 10.6 and later users to the new APIs." - I used Chrome and I don't miss it, now I'm back into Firefox.
Not really that fast, flashblock and adblock work much better in FF, too extreme font antialiasing rendering when compared to FF.
While I couldn't use FF 5.0 in Lion because it crashed every 5 minutes - from mozilla release notes: "There is a bug present in the upcoming release of OSX 10.7 that causes Firefox to crash when using downloadable fonts. Downloadable fonts are used widely on the web, so users would have suffered severe crash problems. We alerted Apple to the problem before the release of 10.7 but they did not fix the problem before 10.7 went to final release. Weve changed the font APIs that were using to newer versions which appear to fix the problem. Users on 10.6 and before will continue to use the old APIs to reduce risk. Later versions of Firefox will move all 10.6 and later users to the new APIs." - I used Chrome and I don't miss it, now I'm back into Firefox.
Not really that fast, flashblock and adblock work much better in FF, too extreme font antialiasing rendering when compared to FF.
My experience with browsers in Lion (though most comments are OS independent):
Firefox:
+ Feature complete, tons of extensions
+ Best history + address bar of all (Awesome Bar)
+ Best web development helper of all: Firebug extension (only reason I still have Firefox around)
- Slow
- Leaks memory (improvements finally underway)
- Restarts required after un/installing extensions (major PITA)
- No Lion integration as of v5.0.1 (no full-screen mode, no gesture handling)
- Wasted window area: title bar redundant with tabs
- Search in address bar not smart enough
Safari:
+ Fast
+ Excellent full-screen mode
+ Gesture-controlled navigation
- Leaks memory
- Wasted window area: title bar redundant with tabs
- No search in address bar
- CPU hungry (especially with that prefetcher process)
Chrome:
+ Feature complete, tons of extensions
+ Fast (though not as fast as in Linux or even Windows)
+ Superb tab handling and flexibility (can't get enough of the animations and visual feedbacks when moved around or mass closed)
+ No wasted window area
+ Per-process tabs: perfect memory handling (allocation and release), preventing any leaks
+ Extensions un/installable and togglable on the fly
- Full-screen mode half baked (no button to get out, shortcut only; huge top bar when moving the mouse toward the top of the screen)
- No gesture handling
- CPU and memory usage could be optimized
Firefox:
+ Feature complete, tons of extensions
+ Best history + address bar of all (Awesome Bar)
+ Best web development helper of all: Firebug extension (only reason I still have Firefox around)
- Slow
- Leaks memory (improvements finally underway)
- Restarts required after un/installing extensions (major PITA)
- No Lion integration as of v5.0.1 (no full-screen mode, no gesture handling)
- Wasted window area: title bar redundant with tabs
- Search in address bar not smart enough
Safari:
+ Fast
+ Excellent full-screen mode
+ Gesture-controlled navigation
- Leaks memory
- Wasted window area: title bar redundant with tabs
- No search in address bar
- CPU hungry (especially with that prefetcher process)
Chrome:
+ Feature complete, tons of extensions
+ Fast (though not as fast as in Linux or even Windows)
+ Superb tab handling and flexibility (can't get enough of the animations and visual feedbacks when moved around or mass closed)
+ No wasted window area
+ Per-process tabs: perfect memory handling (allocation and release), preventing any leaks
+ Extensions un/installable and togglable on the fly
- Full-screen mode half baked (no button to get out, shortcut only; huge top bar when moving the mouse toward the top of the screen)
- No gesture handling
- CPU and memory usage could be optimized
Of course, because there's no universally clear cut best browser. My favorite is Chrome (by far), but they all have their pluses that tailor to different people.Gee. Everyone has recommended every browser known to man in a post asking for "the best". Imagine that.
Thanks for mentioning this one (Sleipnir for Mac), I'll give it a try.A japanese web browser which support more multitouch gestures.
It is fun
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Chrome also runs Firebug Lite. It used to be buggy until recently, but now it works fine.
http://getfirebug.com/releases/lite/chrome/
Yes, I have given it a chance several times. It's just not complete enough for me. The DOM explorer, JS console w/ XHRs and CSS property details are nice, but I need to be able to temporarily edit DOM nodes and CSS file contents to see visual results on the fly.
Chrome's own developer tools are excellent, but not organized to my taste (skewed toward Firebug's layout), and while it is possible to edit CSS properties one by one, it doesn't allow for editing whole CSS file contents either.
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Just a thought. Those that are having memory leaks with Safari using extensions? Maybe the extensions you are using aren't ready for Lion use yet. That wouldn't be Lions fault, just get the developers on board.
Just a thought, because some of you are saying that they aren't having any memory leak. That might make the difference.
Hugh
Just a thought, because some of you are saying that they aren't having any memory leak. That might make the difference.
Hugh
Unfortunately, in Safari memory is leaked even with all default settings, no extensions. Memory usage just keeps on growing, closing tabs and windows does very little. Just like in Firefox.
I know you can run 32-bit mode of Firefox. However, I prefer to run it in 64-bit.
It's annoying when you're surfing on several tabs then you want to open Netflix and it requires a restart of the entire browser just cause one plug in isn't compatible with 64-bit.
Haven't started using Lion yet, but at the moment my browser of choice is Safari. I find Chrome faster and handles Tabs better and I love firefox's tab grouping feature (I hate the way safari limits the number of tabs you can have in the bar and then just lists the rest under a drop down), however I just love the Top Sites and cover flow history because I find it so fast and easy to find what I'm looking for. If firefox or chrome had these features (or good equivalents) then I would definitely switch.
I know that chrome has the "most visited" page but it just has too few sites compared to the 24 pages I have on Safari's top sites.
I know that chrome has the "most visited" page but it just has too few sites compared to the 24 pages I have on Safari's top sites.
... but Chrome has Tab Exposé! Not the lame Safari extension, but a proper good Exposé that works with a 3-finger down gesture. It's amazing and fast.
Chrome also allows you to move items around and delete items from folder in the Bookmarks bar. In Safari, once you add a bookmark to a folder, there's nothing you can do with it. You have to enter the annoying and horrible "bookmark editing mode with Cover Flow" and hunt everything down one by one.
Chrome also eats almost twice as less RAM as Chrome. It uses more CPU, however.
Safari, on the other hand, doesn't annoy you with "update Shockwave plugin" and other similar messages all the time, which Chrome does.
Safari also has Top Sites, which I just use as a nice visual bookmark system. I pin all my sites to it and it's awesome. Chrome does that too, but it's much more ugly and less flexible. It does have an extension called "SpeedDial", but it's not as good as Safari's Top Sites.
Safari doesn't have the Omni Bar, and you can't do a Google Instant search from the search bar either, which makes me go to Google.com all the time by pressing the Home button, which is annoying. Chrome gives you a view of Google Instant as you type things into the Omni Bar.
I made this awesome table to sum things up:
I'm really on the fence with deciding which one's better at the moment. Lion shall decide I guess! What do you all think?
Chrome also allows you to move items around and delete items from folder in the Bookmarks bar. In Safari, once you add a bookmark to a folder, there's nothing you can do with it. You have to enter the annoying and horrible "bookmark editing mode with Cover Flow" and hunt everything down one by one.
Chrome also eats almost twice as less RAM as Chrome. It uses more CPU, however.
Safari, on the other hand, doesn't annoy you with "update Shockwave plugin" and other similar messages all the time, which Chrome does.
Safari also has Top Sites, which I just use as a nice visual bookmark system. I pin all my sites to it and it's awesome. Chrome does that too, but it's much more ugly and less flexible. It does have an extension called "SpeedDial", but it's not as good as Safari's Top Sites.
Safari doesn't have the Omni Bar, and you can't do a Google Instant search from the search bar either, which makes me go to Google.com all the time by pressing the Home button, which is annoying. Chrome gives you a view of Google Instant as you type things into the Omni Bar.
I made this awesome table to sum things up:
I'm really on the fence with deciding which one's better at the moment. Lion shall decide I guess! What do you all think?
Type about:flags in the Chrome URL bar and hit return
Under Experiments look for Tab Overview and click on Enable
Restart Chrome for changes to take effect
Relaunch Chrome and open a few tabs, then use a three-finger swipe down on your multitouch trackpad or mouse to activate the Expose-like tab overview.
Voila