Which monitor are you getting with your 15" 2015 MBP Touchbar?

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  1. iBrooker, Nov 20, 2016
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    ARGH: Meant 2016 MBP duh!

    I am looking at the LG 27UD88 (£480) and the new LG 5K Apple monitor (£884). Anyone think of the pros and cons and which would be better to get? Will primarily use it for the MBP but like the option of being able to plus in a PS4 etc (MBP specs: 2.9Ghz, 4GB GPU, 512GB SSD)

    LG 27UD88 - £480 - Pros n Cons

    Has two HDMI inputs so can use PS4Pro, BluRay etc
    Has two USB 3 outs
    Is 4K (so less pixels to power)
    Con: Is not 5k
    Con: does not have speakers, camera, etc (but personally not bothered by this)

    LG 5K Monitor - £884 - Pros n Cons

    5K
    New Model
    1 USB-C in
    3 USB-C outs
    Con: no other inputs (or outputs - so you'll need dongle adapters. Edit: this is incorrect on the input side of things - you can't use anything else - even with dongles, as the monitor can only accept a thunderbolt 3 input via the USB-C connection)
    Con: Being 5 K uses more resources (but how much?)

    Currently I'm thinking that if the LG5K had Hdmi inputs (and ability to scale content) and a a couple of normal usb outs it would have been a no brainer.

    What do you all think?
     
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    I'm pretty sure I'll get the LG 5k display, since I want the wider color gamut as well as the conveniences in having a built in camera and being able to turn the brightness up and down from the keyboard. I really wish it was OLED for the brighter colors and deeper blacks, but I bet that will be available in a few years from now :)
     
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    Why the Acer? (It is only 2560 x 1440)

    Oh, can you do that? That's neat!
     
  5. cjrulli macrumors regular

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    My use case doesn't necessarily warrant a 4K screen. It'd definitely be nice to have but not a must.
     
  6. Hyloba macrumors 6502

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    Would you guys use an external keyboard with those monitors? My laptop mostly spends its time in clamshell mode but then the touch bar and touchid seem a useless thing to have (paid for).
     
  7. MadDane macrumors 6502a

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    I will mainly be using mine with and external keyboard and mouse. And yes, the Touch Bar and TouchID will be useless most of the time for me. But who knows, I might change the way I use my laptop if those two features proves useful enough.
     
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    80% of the time I will use in clamshell mode, but like MadDane, might review that in the coming months.

    It's only a matter of time before there is a wireless keyboard with toucbar I guess.
     
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    I've had this in my amazon wishlist for a while now, because many people say its one of the best 4k monitors for the Mac. Dell P2715Q
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00PC9HFO...olid=27MJBJAWDKG3O&coliid=IR7RQNWAD6HET&psc=1

    Since that was months ago.. before I buy i need to go looking again for any new options/suggestions.

    I guess some monitors don't shut off when they are supposed to when using the MBP in Clamshell mode etc. Is there a list of 4k monitors (preferably 27"+) that work flawlessly as a MBP external monitor? Power off when they should, wake when they should etc.
     
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    That does look nice, and I have always been impressed by Dell monitors (and from what I remb you can get 5 year warranties when you buy directly from them too).

    Only prob with that monitor is it is not a USB-C input so you'd need a dongle and can't use it as a hub.
     
  11. tryrtryrtryrt Suspended

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    If you don't have old video outputs you need to cater LG UltraFine 5K is a no brainer for me - it's future proof, it's best resolution, it's best colour etc. Without current "discount" it was kind of expensive but with it it's a good bargain IMHO.

    For example I also had to cater iMac 5K and had to get Dell P2715Q instead of LG UltraFine 5K for this reason.

    But be careful. It's not "USB-C in" in a sense you might be thinking in the initial post, it's "Thunderbolt 3 in" so you won't be able to connect it to anything which is USB-C but not Thunderbolt 3 (USB-C is port format, USB 3.1 gen 1, USB 3.1 gen 2 and Thunderbolt 3 are the interfaces that share this port format, Thunderbolt 3 can emulate USB 3.1 gen 1-2 but not vice versa; rMB has USB 3.1 gen 1 via USB-C, rMBP2016 has Thunderbolt 3 via USB-C).
     
  12. urbZZ macrumors newbie

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    This begs the question: Will it ever be possible to connect the LG 5k to something different than the mac?
    I am thinking of ps4, or general hdmi enabled latops?
     
  13. tryrtryrtryrt Suspended

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    No.
    The same situation as with Apple Thunderbolt Display.
    It's highly unlikely that TB3 becomes THAT widespread for it to appear in Xboxes, PSes, videoboxes etc. All these devices would likely incorporate USB 3.1 gen 2 via USB-C for DisplayPort alternate mode in the nearest 2 to 3 years at most.
    IMHO, of course.
     
  14. AdonisSMU, Nov 20, 2016
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    I realized I don't need a monitor with a 15" display.
     
  15. killawat macrumors 65816

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    This will still be useful because if Apple gives us a wireless magic keyboard with TouchID then it'll most likely only be compatible with Macs that already have the T1/secure element inside.
     
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    Oh I didn't know that - I've added it to the first post as an edit. So basically, this display is only good for a Mac (and one that can output a TB3 signal via usb-c). :(
     
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    I'm going for 2x LG 5K's, as they are reasonably future proof.

    They have great colour gamut (inc. so called 'Deep Colour' at billions of colours, rather than 'True Colour' at millions, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_depth), Tbolt 3 connection in (unlikely to be surpassed for next few years by anything else), and speakers+camera (though will be annoying if it's not at least 1080p; they haven't released the full specs on it yet unfortunately, which may mean suffering 720p like the Macs, but can live with it or use a separate cam if desired).

    EDIT: the only negative is that DP 1.3 will come next year, and perhaps that'd mean something for what was offered on both 2017 MBP's and displays then (anyone have a guess on that?).

    I also plan on getting an updated Mac Mini which will of course have Tbolt 3 (well, Apple could do anything, but one can presume they'll likely do the logical thing putting 4+ Tbolt 3 ports it as well, given its a desktop machine!), and use that as my main storage device server (with external storage devices).

    EDIT: knowing Apple, they'll still gimp the machine to remain at 2 vs. 4 core, then getting an iMac instead may have to be done!

    Then (finally!) I'd love a screen adapter to be able to switch between Mini and MBP on the fly to the two LG 5K's.
    AFAIK, there's no way of doing this last thing currently (if one currently was using two new 15" MBPs, for example), and somehow I think it's only a 50/50 chance a manufacturer will have the foresight in future to realise it's a problem in need of a solution and actually make something to solve it.
     
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    Honestly do not care if it's usb c or not. Display port or HDMI is all i'll be using, nor do I care for it being a hub.

    Currently have a 2015 MBP and decided to not get a 2016 until probably the next refresh.
    Also started looking at this one as well from LG
    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CH9ZTI...TF8&colid=27MJBJAWDKG3O&coliid=I3BDYZDSWHNFRP
     
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    Presumably it should also work with all the future TB3 devices which are not Macs as TB3 is pretty much a non-Apple standard which is supported by Windows and Linux as well. However there is still a grey zone in that LG 5K does not have physical buttons to set it up (brightness, contrast etc), instead its settings are injected into Mac software stack - and this might complicate things for non-Macs.
     
  20. mwalter macrumors member

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    I'm planning on buying the LG 5k when it comes out, but will miss the aesthetics of my Thunderbolt display housing (IMHO, the LG 5k isn't the best looking, ignoring the actual display, of course).

    As with may others, I use my laptops in clamshell mode with an external keyboard and mouse, which negates any benefits of the Touch Bar. It seems like such a waste, which is why I was seriously considering an iMac instead (I have a 12" MB that I use out of the office). Perhaps I'll revisit how I use it, but the only thing that I can imagine right now is getting a stand and setting up the MBP next to the display with the lid open, yet still using an external keyboard/mouse.
     
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    would apples thunderbolt display stil work with the new macbooks?
     
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  24. iBrooker thread starter macrumors 6502

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    I really would like the hub as I want to connect an extra 512gb ssd and stick it on the back of the monitor with some velcro :D ...hence my two options seem to be the two LGs in the first post. (Unless the Dell can be used in this way too?)
     
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