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However, to me, when it comes to GDPR, it seems ludicrous, and quite illegal, that any business in any country outside the EU should be beholden to any policy passed by the EU. EU law should have ZERO legitimacy outside of the EU. Otherwise, what's to stop any country/countries from setting international law all on their own. Crazy.
Because U.S. law and directives never affect people outside the U.S..
 
By counter-weight they can mean an equal and fully opposite mechanism, obliterating online privacy permanently. But it doesn't matter. There are no consequences. Americans have no recourse to the law. All they can do is vote once every four years for one of two people to be their King, a choice made almost entirely by familial and tribal affiliations, and then sit back and like it or not, go along with whatever happens no matter how destructive, and enjoy having no responsibility for the Kings actions. ...which is just how kings and serfs like it.
 
GDPR isn't just about acknowledgement, in fact, that's been around even before GDPR. What's new is that EU citizens have the power to request what data is being collected and request a full deletion of that data.

What's ironic about this whole thing is that Facebook, Cambridge Analytica, and Trump caused this whole mess and it's taking a foreign country to fix it. Now the Trump administration wants to "fix" the privacy laws that they themselves violated.
Cambridge Analytica violated Facebook's ToS by lying about what they use the data for. That was the problem, nothing else. Obama did the same thing but without violating any rules.

As for forcing every online business provide ways to export or delete data (harder than it sound when a whole pipeline is involved), that's a misuse of authority, and it costs businesses a lot. Nobody is forced to sign up for Facebook, and they know what they're getting into if they do. It sounds like a minority of privacy freaks got the government to force this, and the average person doesn't care that much other than thinking it's kinda cool that they can download a dump of their data. I mean, they were willing using the sites before these requirements.
 
Well, then either I'm not reading it correctly or you're overconfident. :)
I'm not sure it's possible to comply to the letter of the law, but I can assure you that many smaller companies (and likely larger ones) aren't in compliance and/or have no plans to be.

And, my confidence that sites like Facebook, Google, credit reporting agencies, etc. will effectively comply are next to zero. It's a good move, the the problem isn't going away.

Companies are building these tools. Would it solve all privacy issues? No, but we have to start with having the tools to control our privacy.

It was started in 2012 and passed before Trump was even president. So, I'm having a bit of trouble understanding how Cambridge Analytica influenced it.

It was the scandal that broke the camel's back. Largest privacy overreach in recent memory.

Cambridge Analytica violated Facebook's ToS by lying about what they use the data for. That was the problem, nothing else. Obama did the same thing but without violating any rules.

I'm sure FB was totally innocent. :rolleyes: Seems like FB is totally oblivious to their users/bots taking advantage of their platform. FB has a lot of sophisticated developers, I find it hard to believe they were caught with their pants down so many times. It starts at the top and their CEO doesn't care about privacy.
 
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Some people tend to forget anything you put on Internet stays FOREVER! Never give all your information (unless you buying something) because it will find you when looking for work!
 
It was the scandal that broke the camel's back. Largest privacy overreach in recent memory.

Yes, but your statement was:

It's clear that the Cambridge Analytica, Facebook, and Trump scandal started/influenced GDPR.

That can't be right, because the GDPR deadline was set in early 2016.
 
As far as I am concerned it doesn't go far enough, imo all sites serving the EU should all have opt-in settings, not opt-out, and then there are cookies, while needed they should be easily accessible and readable by everybody so people know what they actually do.
They should not. Your "opt in" is your decisión to use their site.
 
For some reason I do not trust the US with formulating privacy laws. For a modern western country I think they are some of the worst offenders when it comes to disrespect it.
you, your information, anything and everything about you is sold to anyone willing to pay for it. for instance, you get a credit card or open a new cell phone line. in a matter of weeks, you start receiving unwanted calls, mails from everywhere.
 
.. trying to force Google to not do adverting and sell info is like like to teach an old dog new tricks *literally*

This is all in the name for the U.S to say "Hand over your info and we'll protect it for you"

Dropbox, Apple do the same,, and even if your like Apple and go above and beyond, it won't work for me..

All companies will go to any length just to get that this info. So why should we bow down to Apple ? Besides, if they are going this far as to try and build a whole new approach for companies to strop this selling info you give up, perhaps they should go further about needing your permission when they do, instead of giving you one agreement to sign that automatically agrees to other parts as well.

This is why we can never have nice things :(

That's your opinion, I've got mine.
I don't want to be tracked on most of these sites by American companies like Facebook or Google amongst others.

It's a shame "opt in" doesn't always mean what you think it means... "You can only op-in in areas we tell you its ok"

ya, that is privacy *rolls eyes*
 
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GDPR FTW. It’s Ze Best. Rest of the world should implement it, as is.

Agreed. . . It shouldn't surprise anyone that U.S. corporations and their bought and paid for governmental minions are afraid of the EU's new privacy regulations. Americans may begin to think that we should enjoy the same level of protection as EU citizens.
 
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If you want to do business in a country then you follow their rules. Doesn't matter if it's a foreign-based company or not. The alternative choice is to not do business in that country, and obviously these companies have chosen not to do that because quite frankly that would be a financially stupid decision. Conversely, foreign-based companies operating in the U.S. also have to follow U.S. law. This isn't a new concept so I'm not sure why you're acting as such.
Here's where it gets complicated: if I am living in America and using American servers and otherwise have no physical presence in the EU, should I be subject to EU data privacy laws simply because I market to individuals in the EU? If so, how should the EU punish me? Should they impose taxes on new sales from the EU? Subpoena my likely US-based-bank?

These are important jurisdictional issues that ultimately should be settled by the Supreme Court.
 
Here's where it gets complicated: if I am living in America and using American servers and otherwise have no physical presence in the EU, should I be subject to EU data privacy laws simply because I market to individuals in the EU? If so, how should the EU punish me? Should they impose taxes on new sales from the EU? Subpoena my likely US-based-bank?

These are important jurisdictional issues that ultimately should be settled by the Supreme Court.

The Supreme Court has no say in foreign matters, which this would certainly fall under. Assuming you’re infraction was severe enough, the EU could ask for an extradition, or perhaps for something less severe, block your website, seize your goods at customs, or perhaps arrest you if you ever enter an EU country. Essentially, at the very least, they could make it very hard and probably not worth your time and investment to market or sell to those living in the EU.
 
I'm all for data privacy. However, to me, when it comes to GDPR, it seems ludicrous, and quite illegal, that any business in any country outside the EU should be beholden to any policy passed by the EU. EU law should have ZERO legitimacy outside of the EU. Otherwise, what's to stop any country/countries from setting international law all on their own. Crazy.
If the company is doing business in the EU, why should it not be subject to the EU’s rules?
 
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